A Question for the mothers of ILE

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After you have kids are you ever alone again?

Nellie (nellskies), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm a father, but speaking on behalf of my wife, I'd say the answer is a resounding NAY!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

Yep. It happens. Kids at grandparents, Grandparents at sister-in-laws, we're wandering around a garden centre and suddenly "What? are we MAD?" and dash off....

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Unfortunately no, you are NEVER alone again.

andyjack (andyjack), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

i thought this thread was to the attention of Tom Ewing or something.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

Frightening thought. (xpost)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

but speaking on behalf of my wife

I hate it when you do this. All the time, speaking for me. Makes me _so_ mad.

Mrs Alex in NYC (daveb), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm really scared of not being able to be alone. Fortunately I'm not pregnant.

Nellie (nellskies), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Plan on kissing goodbye alone-time, sleep, carefree spontanaiety and youthful irresponsibilty if you're planning on having kids.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

yet it is apparently still worth it? explain?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

yet it is apparently still worth it? explain?

Thread hijack.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

How do I explain it? On the one hand, it's more work that you could ever imagine -- your patience and endurance get tested beyond comprehension -- but it can also be more rewarding/fulfilling/heartening/rejuvenation/eye-opening in ways that cannot be described,

it's still not for everyone, though.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

MILEs!

Huk-L, Monday, 18 April 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Rarely. Sometimes he's at my mom's, but usually when that happens, someone drops by, or I go out. The only time I am ever truly alone is when I am in the bathroom at work - and that's never for long.

I don't miss being alone, though.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Alex in NYC couldn't be righter. Before I had kids, I couldn't figure out what could possibly be worthwhile about being a parent. Now I wouldn't trade all the free time in the world for my daughter.

mike a, Monday, 18 April 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

:-(

nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Until your child hits school age, you're never alone. Even after that, you're never apart from the thought of your child, but I've never found it to be an onerous thing. Right now I'm starting to deal with the prospect of sending our only child off to college next year, and I suspect that'll be a whole different variety of alone-not alone.

Once you have a child, that child is a part of you forever. No matter what. You may be 70 and they may be 50, but they'll still be a part of you. I'm not sure you can ever be entirely apart from them.

Alone, yes, eventually and sadly. Apart - completely separated - no. Not unless there were... ::duh dunh dunh:: ... Issues.

Hey Jude, Monday, 18 April 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Even after that, you're never apart from the thought of your child

How very true. The "not having a minute to yourself" bit does get easier with time, but even though both my girls are now school age, they're in my thoughts all the time. Their health, well-being, safety, happiness and education are my uppermost priorities. Motherhood was something which I chose, and my children are the centre of my world - they're an absolute joy, not an irritation which prevents me doing anything else. I'm not resentful of the time I invest in them - quite the contrary in fact.

Occasionally The Bloke and I will manage to talk the grandparents or godparents into looking after the kids so that we can have a weekend alone, just the two of us, where we can remember what it's like to be carefree grown-ups unencumbered by parenthood. At last! The house to ourselves! And we invariably look forlornly around the place because it seems so empty without our children, and promptly spend the entire evening talking about them over dinner.

Wouldn't change a thing :))

C J (C J), Monday, 18 April 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

MILEs!

Moms I'd Like to do Everything with

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 April 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Never. They grow up and some of them move away, some of them never leave, and some of those who've left come back! And brought grandkids. It would be nice to take my boxes of books out of storage and move my computer back. On the other hand, I think I would be lonely if they all left... I enjoy their company. I get a stomach ache if things are too quiet. I have things to look forward to, such as getting that crayon stuff off the front window (again!) plus all those stickers they just stuck everywhere....

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Monday, 18 April 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm not a mom, but I have watched rufus full-time at home since he was an infant (one of those scary stay-at-home dads that mothers ignore at the playground.) and now I do get to be alone while he goes to daycare. he goes three days a week. it's maria who never gets to be alone. she works all day at her office (that she shares with someone) and then comes home and rufus and I are usually both home by then. plus, she works a lot and doesn't spend as much time with him as i do, so she feels guilty for wanting the house to herself! which is crazy.but understandable too. i try and take him places when she is home and not working, so that she gets time by herself. but, you know, we are having another one in a month, so all of this is already ancient history cuz i will either have baby or baby/rufus 7 days a week for months to come. when we first moved here i had rufus and maria worked AT HOME in the back room and we were all on top of each other (rufus crying for momma all the time), it was insane. our house is really small. but it is all definitely worth it. Just another five years till they are both in school!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 April 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

I have been called a mother almost all my life but don't have any fucking kids.

My Name Is Not Luka (My Name Is Not Luka), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

Boy, do I appreciate the rare minutes I get alone. I had a couple of hours to myself on Sunday!

Now I do feel like I'm being selfish when I take time for myself, because I only see Rufus about 3 hours a day when I'm not working. With another baby on the way soon (1 more month!) and my memory of how my siblings and I competed for my mom's attention, I'm sure the tug will only be stronger.

But I also find that often the thing I'd most like to do anyway is spend time with my kid. It used to feel like harder work to hang with him, when he was more likely to choke on something or get hurt the moment you turn your back. Now it's getting more and more fun to just be with him.

Soon we'll be back in the hard work phase. You can't take your eyes off a little baby or let them out of your sight; I have no idea how people still pay attention to their other child while doing that.

Sometimes it feels frightening to think of another couple of years of constant vigilance before getting to an age when the kids will be less demanding. On the other hand, the past 2 years with Rufus now feel like they've flown by.

People always say "cherish this time; it will be over before you know it!" I have thought I can't wait for this time to be over so I can go to movies again and have time to myself, but I think I know what they mean.

Having a kid and giving up your freedom to be individualistic or reckless or broke or drunk or aimless or lazy or all the other things you can do when you're just looking out for number 1 is worth it.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

But I like being lazy!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)


Once you have a child, that child is a part of you forever. No matter what. You may be 70 and they may be 50, but they'll still be a part of you. I'm not sure you can ever be entirely apart from them.

And this is why the death of one's child is pretty much the most agonizing thing one can live through, as such a substantial part of you is just GONE. It rips every tendril of your soul apart from your devastated mind, throwing large shadows of haunting emptiness over the rest of your life - whatever you may do, wherever you may go. A part of you is missing

i got very emotional just reading this thread

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

i am drowning ILE in my darkness today. i should step back. i hate getting emo...not "emo" but emouch

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Heh, no worries Vic, I was feeling the same way yesterday given my glowering...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Ned I was thinking whilst writing that, that you'd be the only person here who'd understand why i'd feel this way after reading such a thread too.

Thx for saying hi.

Let no one fear children for the freedom one may lose; rather fear the unwanted freedom you may encounter if your child is ever forcibly lost for good. nothing can replace the unconditonal love of a child, and nothing can fill the void if it's ever taken away

people just generally start sucking after age 11. enjoy them in alltheir madness beforehand

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

hey jude's post makes me want to call my parents and tell them i love them

anonymous celebrity (anonymous celebrity), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

I pray that my children outlive me.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

:-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

'Let no one fear children for the freedom one may lose; rather fear the unwanted freedom you may encounter if your child is ever forcibly lost for good'

What if I do have kids and all I want is to be alone? Surely it's better to not have kids than gamble with their happiness. Is it worse to be a child with an unhappy mother or to not exist?

Nellie (nellskies), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

I think you're right, it's better to not have kids at all if you really have a deep need for seclusion.

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Don't have kids for the sake of having kids. Have kids when your home feels like a nest that would be better for children.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

I think you're right, it's better to not have kids at all if you really have a deep need for seclusion.

DING DING DING.

Not all the time with me, of course, but as time passes I'm quite amazed and moved at how my mom, who similarly has a need and joy in time for herself, put up with having me and my sister.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Kids and being a parent are underrated.

the thing that's hardest to deal with is the lack of sleep and the effects of exhaustion; the lack of solitude is certainly significant, but it becomes more pronounced when you are tired. And you're tired a lot. Years on end. As I like to say, many of the world's problems would probably disappear if everyone could get 9 hours of solid sleep every night.

I might add that children create a competing problem between solitude and spouse. By the time you get around to remembering that you even have a spouse, you're too tired to give a shit half of the time. Your kids draw you together and yet they will always remain between the two of you. And there are times when this relationship is very straining.

don weiner, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

O well. And then they reach their late teens, then early twenties, and then you spend days and days alone, or even weeks sometimes, and you start to sorta wonder when the hell you'll see yous kids next time.
That time, o young parents o'today, comes also. And it comes sort suddenly.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

In all honesty, I think I was more relaxed, have enjoyed parenting more and have been, maybe, a better parent because I didn't have my daughter until I was past 30. I'm a very solitary person by nature, but by the time I'd reached my 30s I'd figured out how to weed out most of the unrewarding/unimportant things from my life, leaving the majority of my time for my husband, our child, my job and hobbies.

There's a lot more time in the world than most people think, if you refuse to give work more than it deserves, turn off the TV and cut way back on movies and any not particularly rewarding time-killing habits.

Maybe it would have been nice to be a full-time mom, but I don't think so. I think, for me, the balance between in-home and out-of-home was essential. So in that sense, you do spend time away from your child. Out of sight. Never out of mind, though. If you ever doubt it, just see how fast you leave work without a damn what *anybody* says when you get a call that your child has a 104-degree temperature and can't be roused.

Work suddenly doesn't matter. You know in your heart what matters. That's what being a parent is about. Anybody can do it.

Of course, I went crazy, but I'm pretty sure that was unrelated. :D

Hey Jude, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)


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