Meanwhile, anyone noticed the bizarre John Bolton hearing meltdown?

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This all came to a head yesterday -- after the nomination there was a lot of griping while folks like the National Review and Sullivan were all, "At last! Sanity comes to the UN!" (I let the ironies speak for themselves there.) Then the hearings started and while it was clear that Bolton acts like an asshole in general, as has been sagely noted many politicians in general act like assholes so what are you going to do?

Then right when it seemed like he was going to be voted out of committee, surprise surprise:

John R. Bolton's nomination to be ambassador to the United Nations suffered a setback yesterday when the Senate Foreign Relations Committee unexpectedly decided to spend three more weeks investigating allegations that he mistreated subordinates, threatened a female government contractor and misled the committee about his handling of classified materials.

The panel's decision -- spurred by Ohio Republican Sen. George V. Voinovich's change of heart during an emotional meeting -- came after Democrats passionately argued that senators and their aides need more time to check out new accusations against Bolton, now the undersecretary of state for arms control. Panel members said they may ask Bolton, who spent a full day testifying last week, to return for more questioning.

The NR crowd are acting like they've all been betrayed and shot, which frankly I'm all for them feeling like on a regular basis. Over at their Beltway Buzz demiblog from earlier today:

The angry reader emails are pouring in fast regarding George Voinovich and yesterday’s Foreign Relations Committee hearing. Most of them are not fit for pint in a family-friendly publication.

There are two likely scenarios that will unfold over the next two weeks. One is that the accusations against Bolton will be weighed against material evidence and Bolton’s rebuttal. GOP senators will again align and Bolton will pass through the committee 10-8.

However, the more likely scenario is that in the following weeks these charges will be aired out, Bolton’s name will be cleared, but the air of accusation will stick. Because of increased pressure at home, Lincoln Chafee will have an easy way out, Hagel will be tempted to play the role of “maverick” in conjunction with his 2008 White House aspirations and Voinovich will stick with his “no” vote. There will never be a vote on Bolton’s nomination.

Aw. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. There's various rumblings going on today from Voinovich's and Chafee's offices so I rule nothing out but I'm still amused at how Bolton at the very least has to just sit there and steam while finding new ways to make his mustache whiter.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

There was a great play-by-play on this over at Daily Kos, so yes, I followed it. He sounds like a real piece of work. Chafee came out of it looking a fool because he'd made some hedging statement to the AP to the effect that he'd vote to confirm so long as Bolton was on a short leash. Gee, uh, nevermind about taking the center when you're way out of step with your constituents and targeted for 2006..

daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

it's really a shame "got milk" jokes are so passe.

anyway, i'm hoping this all works out so that he doesn't come up for a vote. one little tiny iota of sanity, please.

el sabor de anti-captain kangaroo (yournullfame), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Great!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm still amused at how Bolton at the very least has to just sit there and steam while finding new ways to make his mustache whiter.

Ha.

youn, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

As Bolton is possibly the worst nominee ever I am glad that for the moment he's been stalled. I'd like to think that in the end this won't be a tie and he'll drop 11-7, but perhaps that's just hoping.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

damn, i started my own thread on this, too:

Some days it just doesn't pay to be a Republican Senator...

see also: the HILARIOUS ad that Move Ameica Forward put out, attacking that "disloyal" Senator from Ohio...

kingfish, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

once upon a time, bolton was an attorney at a high-powered, politically-connected DC law firm (covington and burling). he was SUCH an unbearable asshole that the firm's partners didn't make him partner.

considering what assholes biglaw firm partners generally are, you must be an über-asshole for THAT bunch to shit-can you for being an asshole.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

you have to imagine that these people have SOME capacity for working with others just to have ended up somewhere in the bureaucracy and not as some crazy writing letters to the editor every day.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I haven't been able to free up the attention to notice this hearing. Thanks for making my day (in a small way).

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

"My conscience got me," [Mr. Voinovich] said after the stormy two-hour session. (NYT article)

youn, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Ha, a tree grows in Brooklyn.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

from the thoughtful folks at Move America Forward:
Wife: Honey, were you watching C-SPAN today? Did you hear how disloyal Senator Voinovich was to Republicans and President Bush? Voinovich stood with the Democrats and refused to vote for John Bolton, the man President Bush has chosen to fight for the United States at the UN

Husband: No, I was streaming it on the Internet at the office, but from what I could tell, Senator Voinovich played hookey from the hearings?

Wife: Yeah that’s right. He’s missed most of the Bolton confirmation hearings, but then shows up at the last minute and stabs the President and Republicans right in the back.

Husband: That’s ridiculous – the United Nations needs reform, we need someone who will stand up for the United States and fight the UN’s corruption and anti-Americanism.

Wife: Shame on Senator Voinovich. After the Democrats smeared Condoleeza Rice for Secretary of State and Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General, how could Voinovich side with the Democrats in smearing John Bolton?

[...]


"streaming it on the Internet" "hookey"

kingfish, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

Husband: No, I was streaming it on the Internet kiddie pr0n at the office, but from what I could tell, (in my smut addled daze) Senator Voinovich played a hookeyer from the with hearings? I'm sorry, honey, what was your question?

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

haha, Powell stabs DubyaCo in the back.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050422/ts_nm/bush_bolton_dc_31

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 April 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

somebody please tell me a massive public schism is coming:
Clashes Growing Between Bush and GOP Moderates

Tue Apr 26, 7:55 AM ET

By Ronald Brownstein
LA Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON — Conflicts are multiplying between congressional Republican moderates and the White House as President Bush pursues his aggressively conservative second-term agenda.

The unexpected resistance to Bush's nomination of John R. Bolton as U.N. ambassador from several Senate Republicans marks the latest, and potentially most intense, clash. But battles over Social Security, Bush's budget proposal and ending the filibuster for judicial nominations also are raising tensions inside the party.

The divisions do not appear as pronounced as the ideological divides among Democrats during Bill Clinton's presidency. But GOP moderates, especially in the Senate, seem more willing to challenge the administration than during Bush's first term, which was characterized by historic levels of party unity.

"A lot of the moderates were willing to give the president the benefit of the doubt prior to the election, but now that he's no longer going to be on the ballot, they are putting their own interest somewhat before the White House's," said Marshall Wittmann, a former GOP Senate aide who is an official at the Democratic Leadership Council, a centrist party group.

[...]

The signs of insurrection have reached a point where some conservatives believe the White House must confront the dissenting voices more forcefully — especially as some Republicans' doubts about Bolton threaten the administration with its first defeat on a top-tier executive branch appointment.


"If the moderates take down Bolton … then you are really starting to get into threatening the party's ability to govern," said Jeff Bell, a veteran conservative strategist. "I think Bush has to call the moderates' bluff in some way."


Similarly, conservative talk show host Hugh Hewitt predicted dire consequences for the GOP if Republican defectors thwarted the expected effort by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) to ban the filibuster for judicial nominations.

"Fundraising for the National Republican Senatorial Committee will crater, and the majority so recently and dearly won could well vanish in a matter of 18 months," Hewitt said on his Web log last week.

[...]

Presidents usually find it tougher to herd their party during a second term.

"There is a certain degree of 'lame-duck-itis' that sets in," said Wittmann, who was an aide to McCain before joining the Democratic Leadership Council.

But on several fronts — such as restructuring Social Security, limiting federal spending and nominating the unwavering conservative Bolton for the U.N. — Bush is pushing moderates to the limits of their political and philosophical comfort levels.

Antonia Ferrier, Snowe's communications director, expressed a common sentiment among GOP moderates when she said, "The senator will try to support the president when she can, but there are times when she has to do what is in the best interest of her state."


Note: LA Times writers still do not employ the abbreviation, "blog."

kingfish, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

haha no wonder kaus has such a hardon for them

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Strawman says nay.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1585546,00.html

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

creepy:

On Monday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told her senior staff she was disappointed about the stream of allegations and said she did not want any information coming out of the department that could adversely affect the nomination, said officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.

yay, free speech lives in foggy bottom! ugh.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
And Bolton has so won Voinovich over!

And now Voinovich says, “I believe John Bolton would have been fired if he worked for a major corporation.”

Voinovich added, “He is just the kind of example of what someone in the diplomatic corps should not be.”

Voinovich also added that he did not attend the earlier Bolton hearings. He says in normal circumstances he is “inclined” to support the president’s nominees, but that Bolton does not fall under these guidelines.

Earlier:

“What kind of message are we sending to the world when we nominate someone who has been accused of being arrogant … acting unilaterally … the very characteristics we are trying to dispel.”

Voinovich notes he met with Bolton this week, stating, “I have a particular concern about this nominee and it is in the issue … of public diplomacy.”

NRO world is having shit fits. I am laughing. I mean, he might still get through but this is rich. C-SPAN coverage here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Fuck the world--Rove-Cheney cannot abide seeming to lose anything. I trust they're a fat Rolodex full of dirtry secrets.

Bolton will be appointed after some orchestrated mea cuplas and faux soul searching (Where is it? where is it? whines the GOP hivemind.)

Ian in Brooklyn, Friday, 13 May 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

god I hope this is a "sense of decency" turning point.

miccio (miccio), Friday, 13 May 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

not yet. too early, not dramatic enough. bolton will make it thru.

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Friday, 13 May 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

also, most media outlets covering this(AP, CNN, etc) will mere ascribe all the hoopla to he-said/she-said coverage and partisan bickering, since of course we all know that only democrats could ever possibly have a problem with anybody that the Preznit nominates....

Also, note that no one has mentioned the name of Benard K in months, the first nominee for Homeland Security...

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Friday, 13 May 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

larry flynt has recorded that bolton has atteneded platos retreats in the 70s--which isnt really interesting, who hadnt among the ny power elite, what is interesting, is that those who remember it, remember him bullying his wife into both attending and apparently partcipating (shades of jack ryan)

anthony, Friday, 13 May 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)

this is the ny times lead editorial today. these people should all be jailed for their lack of patriotism.

Published: May 13, 2005
Many passionate arguments were offered yesterday in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee against the nomination of John Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations, but Paul Sarbanes, Democrat of Maryland, made one of the most dramatic by simply reading the names of those who have held the post. Among them are Henry Cabot Lodge Jr., Adlai Stevenson, Arthur Goldberg, George Ball, George H. W. Bush, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, William Scranton, Andrew Young, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Vernon Walters, Madeleine Albright, Richard Holbrooke and John Danforth.

Mr. Bolton does not belong in this distinguished company of Republicans and Democrats, and the issue is not his "interpersonal style," as his supporters would like Americans to believe. Senator George Allen, a Republican, sneeringly suggested that the U.N. ambassador should not be one of those diplomats who are happy "drinking tea with their pinkies up." That was hardly a description of Mr. Moynihan and Ms. Kirkpatrick.

The post of U.N. ambassador is, as Senator Chuck Hagel, a Republican, put it, "one of the most important jobs in our government." After the president, the vice president and the secretary of state, that official is the face of the United States to the rest of the world. The job should not go to a man who has repeatedly demonstrated his contempt for the United Nations. In 1999, for example, Mr. Bolton ridiculed the notion that the Security Council is the only body that can legitimize one country's use of force against another when it has not been attacked, which, of course, the Council is. He derided as wishful thinking the idea that "force is no longer a serious option for responsible nations, except to swat the occasional dictator and prevent human rights abuses." Those are, of course, the only remaining justifications for invading Iraq.

The Senate committee hearings have also exhaustively documented Mr. Bolton's habit of trying to force intelligence analysts to conform to his ideological preconceptions and then trying to punish them when they refuse to comply. That Mr. Bolton did not succeed in taking revenge is no comfort - only a sign that he did not wield as much power as other officials who did manage to skew intelligence reports to suit an ideological agenda.

His Republican supporters want us to accept the "no harm, no foul" argument - a hollow theory in any case, but one that doesn't apply here. Mr. Bolton did cause harm. Several Bush administration officials testified that his assault on the intelligence analysts who disagreed with him had a serious chilling effect. Mr. Bolton was such a loose cannon that Colin Powell had his chief of staff keep an eye on him. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage eventually said Mr. Bolton could not testify in Congress or make a speech unless he had personally cleared it.

If North Korea tests a nuclear bomb on Mr. Bush's watch, no American will bear a larger share of responsibility than Mr. Bolton. His irresponsible public comments and advocacy of the disastrous policy of refusing to engage in serious bargaining with North Korea were major factors in scuttling efforts to stop that country's nuclear efforts.

It's not hard to imagine that the next U.N. ambassador will be called upon to defend American policy on Iran and North Korea and to present the United States' intelligence on their nuclear programs to a highly skeptical world. It is hard to imagine a worse choice for that than Mr. Bolton.

Senator George Voinovich said yesterday that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had assured him that Mr. Bolton would be closely supervised at the U.N. Ms. Rice's eagerness to get Mr. Bolton out of town is understandable, but, as Mr. Voinovich put it so well, "Why in the world would you want to send somebody up to the U.N. that has to be supervised?"

Like Mr. Voinovich, Mr. Hagel dismissed as "nonsense" his fellow Republicans' argument that opposing Mr. Bolton would mean opposing U.N. reform. Unlike Mr. Voinovich, Mr. Hagel said he was supporting the Bolton nomination. We agreed strongly when he said this issue should not be partisan. But Mr. Hagel couldn't come up with much to explain his decision beyond a partisan desire to support his president. Another Republican, Norm Coleman, said bluntly that Mr. Bolton should be confirmed simply because Mr. Bush won the election.

That's the weak argument that has already led to the promotion of too many administration officials whose efforts to make reality conform to the White House's policy preferences have caused untold harm to American interests. Now that the Foreign Relations Committee has forwarded the Bolton nomination to the Senate floor without any recommendation, we hope that enough Republicans care enough about America's image and national security to refuse to go down that road again.

colm meany, Friday, 13 May 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

The reading of names does sound effective.

Should the reasons given by Republican Senators who don't approve of Bolton but who voted to approve the nomination be taken at face value? Do you agree with the principles? When should you vote based on principle (isolated) and when should you vote based on desired outcome (in context)? Are these considerations different when voting for people vs. policies/legislation?

youn, Friday, 13 May 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
So instead of moving on to the other judicial nominations that were part of the agreement, Sen. Frist moved on to Bolton's nomination to make Senate Democrats look like obstructionists, to make it look like they're breaking the deal? That sucks. And it's not true. It's just timing.

youn, Friday, 27 May 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

postpOWNED

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Friday, 27 May 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

Hi, I just thought I'd post this link here. Any clue why this hasn't been shown ad nauseum on TV?

http://websrvr20.audiovideoweb.com/avwebdswebsrvr2143/news_video/boltonun_300k.mov

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 3 June 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

holy shit

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 3 June 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

It was in the initial reports but seeing as it doesn't involved an exposed tit, it wasn't deemed worthy of repetition.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 3 June 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone care to describe what that is to someone who can't watch video at work?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 3 June 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

It is John Bolton gradually becoming enraged during a panel discussion when a British guy disagrees with Bolton's "whatever the US wants to do is fine" philosophy.

Dan, I don't remember it but I take your word for it. I've seen the first part, where he says the UN doesn't exist, but I've never seen the hilariously entertaining "flipping the fuck out" part.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 3 June 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

well, it starts with Bolton saying "There is no U.N." and only gets better from there. By the end he's about to do some serious fist-pounding on the table, which is a little disconcerting...

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 3 June 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

But does he use his shoe?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 June 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
well well well:

Rice: Bush May Bypass Senate on Bolton
By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 54 minutes ago

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is keeping open the possibility that President Bush will bypass the Senate to get John R. Bolton installed as U.N. ambassador temporarily if Democrats persist in holding up a confirmation vote.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan did not rule out that Bush would consider a recess appointment if the Senate does not approve Bolton's nomination. He blamed the Democrats for "obstructing progress" by stalling a vote on Bolton.

"We continue to urge the Senate to let him have an up or down vote on the floor," McClellan said Monday. "It's unfortunate that the democratic leadership continues to block his nomination, particularly when he has majority support. It is critical that we get him in place."

Rice, on a trip to the Middle East and Europe, commented in a round of television interviews Sunday as Democrats defended their attempt to block a vote on Bolton's nomination. They said the administration's refusal to turn over information they seek is delaying an up-or-down decision.

To determine whether Bolton improperly used intelligence to intimidate officials who didn't agree with his views, Democrats say they want to check a list of 36 U.S. officials against names — initially blacked out — that Bolton requested and received from national security intercepts he reviewed. They rejected a list of seven names offered last week by Sen. Pat Roberts (news, bio, voting record), R-Kan., chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Roberts and Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., the lead Democrat on the committee, previously were briefed on the intercept issue and said there was no indication Bolton acted improperly.

Democrats also want documents related to the preparation of testimony that Bolton, as the State Department's arms control chief, planned to give in the House in July 2003 about Syria's weapons capability. They want to know if Bolton misled the Senate during his confirmation hearings when he said he was not involved in the preparation of that testimony.

Rice, in Jerusalem, said Roberts "has already spoken to the issue of the nature of those inquiries."

Asked on "Fox News Sunday" whether Bush would consider a recess appointment of Bolton — a temporary placement that does not require Senate approval — Rice said: "We'll see what happens this week."

The Senate plans to take a July Fourth recess in two weeks. Under the Constitution, a president can make an appointment during a Senate recess without the chamber's approval of the nominee. That appointment lasts only through the next one-year session of Congress — which in this case would mean until January 2007.

It was unclear whether Rice's statement was an indication that the administration would seriously consider a recess appointment for Bolton or whether it was meant to increase leverage for White House bargaining with Senate Democrats.

"What we need to do is we need to get an up-or-down vote on John Bolton," Rice said on ABC's "This Week." "Let's find out whether, in fact, the Senate — in its whole, in its entirety — intends and wants to confirm him. That's all that we're asking."

Sen. Joseph Biden (news, bio, voting record), D-Del., predicted that Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., would fail in an effort late Monday to end the filibuster. He said Democrats are standing for principle by delaying the vote until the administration provides what they seek.

"Once we get it, we can have an up-and-down vote immediately," Biden said on CBS' "Face the Nation." "We're not going to let the administration tell us we're not entitled to exercise our oversight responsibility. If we give up on this, we might as well forget about oversight."

Sen. Christopher Dodd (news, bio, voting record), D-Conn., told ABC that a recess appointment would send to the United Nations an ambassador "who lacks the confidence of the United States Senate." That, he said, would "cripple" Bolton as he goes to the world body and damage his standing with the Senate.

Yes, of course, it's always "their" fault now, innit? Especially when you don't wanna cough up docs that may or may not sink the guy even further....

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 20 June 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Looks like Bolton will be a recess appt after all:

Frist Says No New Vote Planned for Bolton

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

The White House earlier Tuesday has issued a new call for a vote on the nomination, accusing Democrats of being unwilling to compromise. "They're only interested in blocking this nomination from moving forward," McCellan said at the time.

and, of course, no mention in that AP bit about the docs(requested by Repub Senator Lugar) that the White House is stalling on turning over...

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

What happened to the Republican mania for an "up or down vote"?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Bush was quoted in a press conference yesterday that Bolton's nomination should be "put to an up or down vote. *portentous pause* Now."

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

too true re: the documents the Dems are demanding, but I think the "slander" the Democrats are withstanding here is small potatoes, mostly because there is no sizable segment of the American public clamoring for Bolton's appointment, while there *is* significant opposition from the left. So DubyaCo's whiny "they're being obstructionist!" rhetoric is likely to fall on deaf ears. Bolton's confirmation is kind of a non-issue, as far as I can tell, for DubyaCo's middle-American middlebrow constituency. Whereas for those of us on the left, his confirmation would be a fucking disaster. The Dems are on safe ground here.
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Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

as with many party-line attacks("state rights", "activist judges", "rule of law"), it's only necessary when they need it to be...

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Well, he just got an up-or-down vote about whether he should even be allowed the pleasure of an up-or-down vote, and the answer was fuckin NAY.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

The Dems are on safe ground here

I think this is also called, "There's no way to go but up, especially when the other guy is busily digging downward."

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/asset/award_recipient/58_img_large.jpg

Stoner Guy, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

surely there is a whole pack of people who are more or less identicial to bolton in policy intentions but aren't such naked assholes? cos the "is he an asshole" issue IS a sidestep from the actual issue (not that the sidestep is surprising, or unwarranted even). i just don't get it. if the administration found someone quiet and boring s/he would have walked thru the nom process; i highly doubt the dems would have spent so much energy blocking someone SOLELY on the basis of defending the UN status quo.

and the shitty thing is the UN does need some serious housecleaning, wherein a little contempt is no bad thing. but outright disgust with the basic idea of the "international community" is another thing entirely.

g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

He is not just an asshole, which everyone pretty much knows, but he's also alleged to have actively undermined the State Department and other hijinks. I agree that there's probly someone else out there that could accomplish Bolton's goals (elimination or complete subjugation of the UN), but it's more than a popularity contest.

Frist Says No New Vote Planned for Bolton

I was gonna post that Frist got a call from Bush and an hour later announced that he will try again.

Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Heh, w/r/t "oh, the vote push is BACK IN EFFECT"!

I mean, [Frist]really does function a bit more like a souped-up White House legislative liaison. Or perhaps a First Minister, in our newly parliamentarized system. Only before the Glorious Revolution.

And is Karl Rove secretly working behind the scenes to make absolutely certain that Bill Frist's mockery quotient is simply too high even to get a hearing in Republican primaries? We're simply not supposed to have a gelding-in-chief ...


Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

FRIST IS SUCH A PUSSY

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

When I heard him using the goal post metaphor, I thought of the ILE thread and laughed.

youn, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

somebody on the Ed Schultz show today(if not Ed himself) pointed out that even the whole "up or down vote" thing was an act of conservative framing. voting down is a negative thing, up is not, etc.

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Steve Clemons over at Washington Note observes that it looks Bolton is dead in the water, via posts here, here and here. If his take is accurate, Bolton won't accept a recess appointment but that's the only way he's going to get the job.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
STARTLING NEWS, EVERYONE! NOTHING REALLY HAS CHANGED, AND BUSH WILL STILL APPOINT THE GUY DURING A RECESS!

actually, check that. "MAY APPROVE". the AP is being very helpful here with an article about how nothing new has happened, but by gum it might!

Maybe.

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Lame duck preznint not giving a shit about Senatorial advise and consent SHOCKAH!

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

So. Has anyone heard about the guy Bush has named as the ambassador to Canada? It's old news up here but the choice is equally as stupid.

I don't know why it's taken me months to bring it up here.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
HA ha, douchebag, your days are numbered.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

;_;

John R. Bolton (lfam), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Man, he can sing though, can't he?

the Adversary (but, still, a friend of yours) (Uri Frendimein), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

Hell yeah pic.twitter.com/mHTlc5k2TW

— Katherine Miller (@katherinemiller) January 28, 2020

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