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mike what's the moog satie record like, is that any good?

I have a Juno 6 which sounds all warm and lovely in person but whenever I try to record it it sounds all thin and tinny. I guess I'm miking the amp in the wrong place. *sigh*

Er, yeah, that's my only even vaguely relevant synth experience, and even that's not so vintage.

It was fun, though. Would've been more fun if the VCFs had worked.

Unfortunately I don't have a Moog myself, but I used to play the most beautiful keyboard ever, the beast that is a Korg Trident Mark II. It's broken now, though, and noone will even look at it. Having said that, we have just got an MS2000, which is adorable, if not quite the same.

Rebecca- would you reccomend the Juno 6? I may well be acquiring one in the near future- does it make much difference to you that it's not Midi compatible? What's the squelch factor?

I have been obsessing over Optigans for a while, but methinks they may be a little too a)expensive and b)impractical.

Actually, I've got a worse one. The Moog Sattelite, a tacky little preset machine. Some moog polymoogs had the "Vox Humana" preset, as used by gazza numan, and a very nice sound it is.

Its big selling point was that it had an individual tone generator for every note, which made it the most polyphonic synthesizer ever made

,/i> This is also true of thee Korg "PS" series, a thing that looks like a night-storage heater w/knobs on the front - "Three complete synthesiser circuits for each voice!" wowee, and don'e even bother looking for one, 'cuz they cost silly money.

I have played a minimoog on several occasions, and have owned a Moog Prodigy. The Mini is absoluteley fantastic, & difficult to get a bad sound out ov. The prodigy is one ov thee nicest monosynths ever made, and occasionally can be had cheap. At least they can up here in the north! (evil laughter thru cavernous reverb)

U should all take a look at some of this stuff:

wiard synthesiser co.

synthesiser technology

modcan

blacet research

I have bought thee above folks gear, and they are 100% legit & good to deal w/. I strongly recommend this stuff.

Not having midi is a mild irritation and it does mean I don't actually use the Juno much, but personally I almost never use midi anyway. As you probably already know, there's a later model which is almost exactly the same except with Roland's DCB interface (either the 106 or the 60, I forget which is which, but synthmuseum.com or similar will know), which I think can just about be persuaded to talk to midi somehow. I don't know any more as I don't have one.

It's not the squelchiest of analogue synths if you're into reso/cutoff tweaking (I don't think - it's been a while! maybe with an external resonant 2-pole filter it could turn into an acieedbeast), but it makes some nice noises and you can get some gorgeous throbbing bass droney noises out of, though this is the kind of thing that I was talking about before when I said it sounds good "live" but I can't seem to capture that on tape very well.

Are you with ChemEx or did I imagine that? I would dig out my 7"s of yours - if indeed they are yours - to see whether I think it's what you're looking for or not, but sadly my record deck is in at least two pieces in another room due to me deciding I'd see what was wrong with the grounding, unscrewing bits, and then getting bored and realising that I wasn't going to be able to fix it myself.

― --, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the best keyboard you can get is the Casio SK-1!!!

::turns green with envy::

My first synth was a Juno 6. (it was the 80s. I thought it was pretty state of the art at the time.) I ended up being forced to sell it to these horrid metalheads who wanted to play Led Zep crap on it (my poor baby) and completely abused it. To this day, I miss it, but whenever I see them on Denmark St they want stupid amounts of money for them.

I didn't care about MIDI or anything like that, I just wanted to be able to make spacerock noises. With the arpeggio and the pitch bender, you could play entire songs just by moving one button; that was fantastic!

CLOSE ENOUGH. Perhaps. ;-)

Do you know anything about effect pedals? I'm thinking of getting one for my theremin, to make it extra spacey sounding. Are they expensive, and what's the best one?

Emil.y: so what're your other bands? Plug away, I'd be interested to hear... (You have a theremin! Nice. *envy*)

I don't know much about fx pedals, I have one multi-fx guitar pedal which is all right but not stunning and one old and knackered single- effect stompbox bought very cheap due to its knackeredness, so I don't know. FX pedals generally seem to cost 50-100 quid new and 20- 50 quid used (depending on condition) for single guitar effects and 70-300 new for multi-fx, I've no idea what's best even for guitar, let alone theremin, but there's a really good section on harmony- central.com with user reviews of pretty much every fx unit ever where they say what they think of the sound, whether it's built well and whether they've had any problems with it, how much it cost them, what kind of music they use it for, etc. I'd think that would be well worth a look, though it won't be much good unless you have a few specific brands/models you want to read up on. Here's the Effects front page, the bit I was talking about is the Effects Database, but I linked to the main page too because there's some other stuff which might be useful, eg circuit diagrams and links and so on.

I'm really hoping Kate will reply telling us about her Kaoss Pad, because elsewhere she said it was the most spacerock fx unit ever and I'm wondering exactly what's so good and so spacey about it. Kate to thread! Kate to thread!

Any recommendations for effects units which won't contaminate anything with the, er, Evil of Guitars? I think I like the evil of guitars, mind you, but I like recommendations too. Kaoss Pads? Zoom RFXes? I drooled over the Zoom rackmount effects in the shop ages ago at someone else's recommendation and ever since that whenever I go in there one of the staff greets me and asks how my nonexistent recording is going and so on. Eek! It worries me when people who see hundreds of customers every day can remember the minutiae of my gear list and favourite music when they haven't seen me for months and I can't remember which assistant they are even though there are only 5 staff there.

Is there a webpage anywhere listing the Kaoss pad's different functions and what parameters are along which axis? Would quite like to know. But as Brian's post reminds me I have no money, will very soon have a great deal less than no money, and have more or less decided that due to a severe lack of talent (ever) and inspiration (recently; well, over the past two years, which is long enough to make me think it may never return) I should just give up on the whole thing anyway.

Don't give up on yr own stuff, you sound like you know a lot more about doing it than I do. Ask steve.n, he knows I can't play to save my life.
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My baby!

Annette Peacock/Paul Bley Moog music discussed earlier mentioned here: https://moogfoundation.org/thom-holmes-the-rarest-of-moog-modular-recordings/

And here is her version of acquiring the instrument. Pretty amusing: https://forum.vintagesynth.com/viewtopic.php?t=42662

Particulary challenging to the searcher is that one of the popular Moog books is published by Ravard University Press.

Paul Bley's version

that album Be Attitude

Hey, what about this album Switched-On Rock from Norman Dolph and The Moog Machine?

I have/had that album! All Moog except for the drums (Moog drums apparently not as advanced as other Moog emulations according to the liners). Has mental version of "Yummy Yummy Yummy".

Posting this mainly for the follwoing from the description:

For the Latinamerican audience, this version may be way better known due to its appearance in Mexican comedian Chespirito's series featuring "Dr. Chapatín", portraying a greedy and careless physician.

"Baroque Hoedown" got in there too!
https://www.vecindadch.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=1890&start=390

You're right this is fun!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCpfRkkt1XM

They also did an Xmas album. We've still got a few hours to listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQlBaOKr1Qw

https://moogfoundation.org/moog-a-history-in-recordings-moog-movie-soundtrack-appearances/

Some Moog content here, but maybe better for another thread, putting it here for now: http://www.preservationsound.com/2012/02/fine-recording-inc-pioneers-in-high-fidelity-studio-recording/

more movie moog music care of john simon on the you are what you eat soundtrack

Really liked "Moog Raga," when I had it as one of the bonus tracks on CD (good sound for '97) of xpost The Notorious Byrd Brothers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVm-x8DyKmM"> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVm-x8DyKmM

Deep-dive Wiki sez Gary Usher got them more into Moog etc.

The name Shane Keister shows up in Memphis Boys: The Story of American Studios, by Roben Jones, as a guy who was intimidated by the Moog Modular System he encountered at Pepper-Tanner but then took to the Minimoog like a fish to water and was viewed as a genius by some, playing the instrument on north of a thousand recordings.
https://www.facebook.com/musicianshalloffame/posts/musician-arranger-and-producer-shane-keister-purchased-this-mini-moog-synthesize/10158491397806242/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Keister

Plays a bunch of other instruments too.
https://www.elvispresleymusic.com.au/articles/tcb-band-shane-keister.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Mq3XRYCt4
Supposedly played on Macca's "Junior's Farm"/"Sally G" sessions #onetwothreefour!, although don't see this everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMh9cWIap3U
I recuse myself.

Although I was almost fooled by the Isaac Asimov look-a-like.

Bill Cullen asks a great question.

This looks interesting. https://rmc.library.cornell.edu/moog/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JuLNlpC9bs

One interesting thing in that video is there is a similar piece of paper to the one found at http://www.moogarchives.com/modular.htm. It's in the same hand, using the same date stamp and the same dates, only this one has Peabody College for Teachers at the top above Kingsley Sound, singular, no 's'.

Bill Cullen asks a great question

Allen Ludden you mean. Great clip! After this and all the other evidence I can’t believe people still mispronounce Moog and insist they’re right.

They are both in it! Bill Cullen asks about who are the two Theremin players listed in the Local 802 of the American Federation of Musicians.

Ah I didn’t even get to that part

Felt like Bill’s thing showed some extra deep knowledge although maybe he had the clever idea to speak to somebody in the To Tell the Truth studio orchestra before the show. Actually I am wondering did they get any advance notice of who they would be seeing? In theory no, but…

Did Peggy Cass mix up PDQ Bach and ‘Switched-On Bach’?

Btw the guy behind PDQ Bach is still alive (86)

Did Peggy Cass mix up PDQ Bach and ‘Switched-On Bach’?

Bob Moog was kind of playing dumb by interpreting the questions narrowly.

I remember waiting at the bus stop in high school and the other guy at my stop loved PDQ Bach.

To the previous point I was watching real Bob Moog and thinking it must be kinda hard not to slip and give yourself away when you’re in that seat. They must really prep the guest so that they don’t do that.

Feel like he must have prepped by watching Joseph Cotten’s cultural center speech on the crisis of faith in the modern novel in The Third Man.

#1 pronounced it mog twice, so I figured he was a fake. And #2 was talking about how the Moog's output could be connected to other instruments (instead of other instruments going to the Moog). #3 seemed too stiff, but by the end of the show I figured that might be normal for someone not used to being on TV.

Mog over once
Mog over twice

as mentioned elsewhere / previously, he's on the start of the Dark Side Of The Moog releases simultaneously telling you how to properly pronounce Moog and ruining the pun in the title.

where i grew up there's a branch of Moog Electronics and it has always been mooo-g for the people thereabouts

https://www.moog.com/contact-us/dist-rep-locator/moog-contacts/united-kingdom.html

only branch in the uk by the looks, and they seem to do everything but music:

Auto and Aero Test
Energy / Wind
Industrial
Marine
Oil and Gas Exploration and Production
Power Generation - Gas and Steam Turbines
Simulation
Steel and Aluminum Mills
Test

and in the foyer there's a hsbc-branded formula-? car

formula 1, it seems:

https://www.moog.com/markets/motorsport.html

Re: that To Tell the Truth video, it’s funny that the awkward, stiff guy was somehow immediately disqualified as someone WHO DESIGNS SYNTHESIZERS FOR A LIVING because he was awkward and stiff. The baffled chatter you caught from the panel after the reveal made me want to slap them.

New Moog video series GIANTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hTyTHm1J_c

Cool, thanks!

Some good stuff about Dick Hyman and the Moog including, of course, "The Minotaur":
https://moogfoundation.org/moog-a-history-in-recordings-dick-hyman-master-stylist-of-the-moog-modular/

Hmm. Caller ID says Trumansburg.

Can only assume it was a workpants call from the ghost of Dr. Robert Moog.

Oh hey, Albert Glinsky, who wrote a very good book about Leon Theremin, seems to have published a Moog biography last year that covers his entire career and draws upon Bob Moog’s personal archives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8sS5NkADBE

Lenny B meets Walter Sear!

Moogarchives.com is broken:(

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