Quick! Provide an ambiguous word I can use to demonstrate the inherent failings of Google Image Search for a research paper

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Nothing rude kthx

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Like say if you put in 'dick' and it returns (a) pictures of dicks; (b) pictures of people called Dick; (c) pictures of private detectives. But not 'dick' because it's rude.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Sooty

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

Centre (or center, as you're in Yankland IIRC)

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

Nope, Australia :)

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Oh and preferably a noun please, so I can go "look!! omg it's giving me different things this is rubbish" &c.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

pot.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

bender!

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

btw great idea for a paper - you come up with it?

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

router
bridge
train

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

Ha this is one of my tutors' research speciality...

moped
bow
desert
intern
project
second
pasty

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

Oooh moped is a good one.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I have used the following:

- balloon
- falcon
- centre

Thanks everyone xx

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

dump
dirt
coat
skirt

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

falcon? Why that?

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Man, I'll have to reference ILX now.

Eneff, A., Lizd4plyn, Slightlyfoxed, A., L., Wpsalt, C. 'I Love Everything.' Found at http://ilxor.com. Freaky Trigger Enterprises Inc., L33tsville, 2005.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

falcon? Why that?

I dunno, pulled it out of my arse. Sufficit to say it returned pictures of everything except actual falcons.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh well, the car of course.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

No cars! But I got a tractor. And an inflatably dinghy.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

I suggested "dump" cos once Nick was looking for pics of dump trucks for a game - and you can guess what otehr kind of shit (uh pardon the pun) he got instead. Too rude for yr paper tho I suppose.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

seat

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

Genius! I've always wanted to be cited.

Most of these seem to be words with parallel verb/noun meanings, which are generally related but not always. The occasional one is a same-spelling-different-meaning like 'moped' or 'tear'.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. The idea is to demonstrate the inherent deficiencies of a text-based retrieval system with relevance feedback, when compared to a content-based image retrieval system that indexes images based on the verbal/semantic qualities of the image itself.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Like, if you're using a CBIR-based system and you want to find a red balloon, it'll go off and search for red things tha are round. Google just stores everything that has 'red' and 'balloon' in the filename or its metadata etc.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

I just image searched "falcon" and I got a shitload of falcons, mainly Peregrines.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but if you put 'large falcon' [as I did] the first page is all sorts of things. Sorry, I should have specified that.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

bass

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Well did you want a picture or a large falcon or a large picture of a falcon?

CBIR requires a human to classify every image and provide the metadata and it need to know properties of a balloon and be able to crossmatch them with the metadata.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Yep. Whereas Google just does it based on text associated with the image.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

So does CBIR it jus has more text.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

just

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) I mean there might be people at Google typing 'balloon' for all the pictures of balloons, but it's not covered in any of the research material I've found.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but CBIR is about the content of the image itself, and incorporates relevance feedback somehow. Beyond measuring who clicked on what results, I don't see any relevance feedback in Google Image Search.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

Well I think you're making google image search a strawman here google image search is based on the idea that

A People put pictures on the internet.
B These pictures often have a context based on the page that calls them or the filename of the image.
C Google has a big spider created database of webpages and links to the webpage that that picture is on.

I don't think it claims any other relevance, and is provided as free as catalogue of images on the internet not a stock image repositry.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Man I fucked up my english in that last post...

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

Well I think you're making google image search a strawman here

This is just for the purposes of a research report, it's not a manifesto or anything :)

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

The best are words that are both a noun and a verb, like "shake" or "swing", probably.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

This paper is set to prove people should ask better questions

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

If you put 'large falcon' into normal google, meanwhile, the first thing you get seems to be some funny google feature to do with identifying aircraft.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

ass!!

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 21 April 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

Are you still fuming about the feet?

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 21 April 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Coke?

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Friday, 22 April 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

TITTIES, RIGHT?

― efil4zelffor (deangulberry), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

there is little in this world less ambiguous than titties

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

In Google's defense, searching for "red rubber ball" brings up an image of the Cyrkle as the 4th hit. This so called "CBIR" system seems like it would have only given me actual red rubber balls which would be of no help on one of ILM's cover art threads.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 22 April 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

Results 1 - 20 of about 1,750 for battenti. (0.14 seconds)

http://www.pantheondecori.it/immagini_x_sito/JPG/maniglia0_141x204.jpg

http://www.fbl.it/av/armadi/battenti/429.jpg

http://www.contrasto.it/img/00116486Abq_img.jpg

Uh oh.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 April 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Google Image Labeler is horribly addictive. My best score = 1100 (joint 480th highest of the day!) with some guy called Guillaume Serre.

A lot of the images in their test set seem to be from nasa. Space, next. People, next.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 4 September 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

Eek, its addictive! Don't let me near it again, I need to get work done :(

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

oooo i like this!

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

The pictures in the Image Labeler "game" are too small.

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know why they make them so tiny. Maybe so they load quickly enough for everyone? I sometimes use screen zoom on them but it doesn't always help.

btw, it took me a while to realise that after you've finished with a picture and it moves to the bottom of the screen, you can hover your mouse pointer over it to see how the other person labelled it.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

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