Come anticipate Genghis Khan with me!

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I dunno why, but I'm really looking forward to the Genghis Khan pop-history thing on the telly tonight (BBc1 9pm). I hope it's not a let down. Anyway, anticipate! I'll report back tomorrow!

jel -- (jel), Monday, 25 April 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/jel2004/gkhan1.jpg

jel -- (jel), Monday, 25 April 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

From the New Yorker:

"Recently, a geneticist at Oxford University, Dr. Chris Tyler-Smith, and geneticists from China and central Asia took blood samples from populations living in regions near the former Mongol empire, and they studied the Y chromosomes. These are useful in establishing lineage because Y chromosomes continue from father to son. Dr. Tyler-Smith and his colleagues found that an anomalously large number of the Y chromosomes carried a genetic signature indicating descent from a single common ancestor about a thousand years ago. The scientists theorized that the ancestor was Genghis Khan (or, more exactly, an eleventh-century ancestor of Genghis Khan). About eight per cent of all males in the region studied, or sixteen million men, possess this chromosome signature. That’s a half per cent of the world’s entire male population. It is possible, therefore, that more than thirty-two million people in the world today are descended from Genghis Khan."

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 25 April 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I thought of that New Yorker article when I saw this thread title too, although it was mainly about Hulagu Il-Kahn, not Genghis. Still some really amazing stories about the ways of the Mongol horde at their peak. Some breathtaking savagery. Like when Hulagu sacked Baghdad and then condemned the Caliph to die by wrapping him in a carpet and having him trod on by horses, and for good measure sent his daughter to be a slave in the harem of Mongke Khan. They really knew how to take vengeance in those days.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 25 April 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

That was rubbish. Hardly the first great TV epic made of khan's life more like a school child's 'what I did on my holidays'

Father died, killed brother for not sharing, married, wife kidnapped, blood brother and some other khan ride out get wife back, they do, who knows what happens to the other khan but blood brother walks out on Temugin. They fight first blood brother and boils genereals, then temugin wins by lighting 5 fires per man. Temugin becomes Gengis Khan. Give blood brother honerable death by braking back, what a nice man ghengis khan is. He goes to china, mercenaries are a bit mercenary and join him, chinese are nasty to horse because they put spiky things in the road. Chinese engineer defect, they take beijing by seige. 1 mont h of looting. they go home, found a city, captured chinese teach them stuff. He sends army to persia, but you don't want to know about that. 1 million persians put to the sword. Army marches to europe, no one opposes them really. Ghengis dies, sons take over conquer some more but come home when new khan dies as is custom, vienna breathes a sigh of relief. No one knows where ghengis was buried. The end.


Utter waste of time.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

Go out and find a video of the John Wayne biopic.

Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

(or, more exactly, an eleventh-century ancestor of Genghis Khan).

Would all the men actually be descended from Genghis Khan then? I mean what if his cousins had the chromosome signatures?

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it was pretty bad. They tried a whole LoTR sorta epic feel, but it didn't work. Still, didn't know that back breaking was done like that. And boiling people alive, not nice.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

michel gondry's genghis khan

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Bob Genghis Khan.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Dschingis Khan?

Ian Riese-Moraine has a grenade, that pineapple's not just a toy! (Eastern Mantr, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Fancy!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

I always prefered his more artistically-gifted brother, Django Khan.

Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Wow, the man in green is my new hero.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

Wow, this is...big:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/08/03/world/03genghis.xlarge1.jpg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 August 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

Inside the two-story base of the statue, which opened last September, visitors can see a replica of Genghis Khan’s legendary golden whip, sample traditional cuisine — heavy on the horse meat and potatoes — and experience some decidedly un-nomadic customs, like billiards.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 August 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

“He was a cruel man but he led our country to greatness,” said Toguldur Munkochir, 25, a bank teller unwinding at the Chinggis Khaan bar later that night. “If you look at Lincoln, Hitler and Julius Caesar, it’s kind of the same thing.”

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 August 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

I just finished The Ridiculous Race, which has a segment where one of the guys racing hangs out with nomads in Mongolia, and they have dvd players, plastic dishes, etc. The guides who take him to the nomad family are two chubby mongolian IT geeks.

kingfish, Monday, 3 August 2009 22:21 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

Reading this:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/bestsellers-2006/3284-1.jpg

Kind of suggests that the typical portrayal of him as especially brutal is a bit unfair, first because brutality was fairly typical of civilizations of the day, and second because there were certain aspects of his rule that were relatively enlightened. It's true that he created one of the greatest slaughter machines in human history of course, but he also disfavored torture, was exceptionally good to his soldiers and their families, was religiously tolerant, encouraged the spread of knowledge, and discarded aristocracy in favor of merit and loyalty.

hills like white people (Hurting 2), Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:42 (fifteen years ago)

# Come anticipate Genghis Khan with me! [Started by Mista SLAV -- (Mstislav III of Kiev) in April 1222, last updated Friday, June 18, 1223 11:42 PM by Subatai (Subatai)] 1 new answer

hills like white people (Hurting 2), Saturday, 19 June 2010 03:51 (fifteen years ago)

u luv GK

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

Mongol was such a badass movie that everyone should see (but I don't remember it clearly because I was drinking when I saw it). I hope Mongol II comes out soon

serious nonsense (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)


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