Where does one go from here?

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I graduated 12 years ago with a good degree, and I felt positive. On reflection, I suppose my attitude was verging on arrogant, considering I was living in the North of England, and living there right in the middle of the early 1990's recession. I wanted to be a cinematographer, and I was so sure I would get soon get a break. However, after 18 months of being unemployed, applying without success for jobs in TV whilst working voluntarily at a community radio station, I decided to take the offer of a job at an academic library. I felt lucky to get it, and whilst it wasn't a great job (very modestly paid), it was 9 to 5, allowing me the freedom to do things outside of it, like music, and writing and directing my own shorts. In 1998, still determined to work in the film industry, I gave up said job and used the money I had saved to finance a two year MA course in film studies. I graduated in 2001 with a first degree, the recession was a distant memory, and my confidence was high. But I came to realise how little my qualification is worth to potential employers in my chosen industry. All that does matter are contacts - in particular, family members. Whether or not you have a family member already working in the TV and film industry is all the makes the difference in most cases. Too late now, obviously, but I am now convinced (having worked sporadically for the last four years in the industry, meeting strings of crew people who share the same surname) that studying to get a foothold in the TV and film industry has been a complete and utter waste of time. Further, hardly any of the people I studied alongside are working consistently in the industry, and yet these type of courses continue to be the most popular, offering false hope.

James Stevens, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

A thread for grumbling.

James Stevens, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

youre in the wrong place, for a start. get the fuck out of england. hope, with the possibility of realisation, is rare in the british commonwealth. here in america its dumped out by the truckload. you might work on some crap but i cant see how you couldnt get film work here with a modicum of effort. seriously, find a way to get here and burn all your bridges so you dont have the option of going back.

katharine (katharine), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

it is down to the lake, one fears.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Welcome to My World - please have a seat! Would you like something to drink? We have some fresh Jaded, Disillusioned, Bitter and Water!!

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Kath is right – hightail it to LA.

Or alternatively, get married to one of those "names" in the industry? Then you're family!

you better believe it (you better believe it), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Even though I do have a job for the moment, if you don't anyone initially (as I didn't either) it really does become a numbers game of applying to and trying to meet/network with as many ppl as you can. The serious answer to your dilemma is, since you are presumably not fucking someone in the industry/related to one in it, to talk to someone who does have a "good job," like "Gear!" (i'm sure his email addy must be around here somewhere) - who, if you've ever noticed, never talks about his work on here.

Also, yo should only work with those crews that you know have $, not the ones that rope you in with "deferred pay" garbage. Maybe you'll get in good eventually with a prodicer or UPM (unit production manager) that can offer you a steady gig; TV is better for that. Also u might want to live in a premier location for filming, like Vancouver or Los Angeles - just a lot more practical.

Try Crew Net if you haven't already.

Someone really needs to drill it into people's heads that film school is _only_ good for making contacts and getting your hand on some communal equipment, and nothing else and does not = helping w/ the "i'm going 2 film skool and will b a 'FILMMAKER!' when i grajuate" life planz.

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Your story is mine, except it was radio and I gave up sooner.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

I would like to say that studying journalism similarly crushed my dreams, but I am too far beyond being disappointed to grumble much anymore.

sugarpants: new and improved! (sugarpants), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure if "GO TO LA" is always the best advice. The BBC is a HUGE employer, and while it may not be as glamorous as Hollywood it might be union.

They're filming a movie in South Park right by my work, I'll walk down at lunch and see if they have any work available.

andy --, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

I would say studying to get a foothold in the TV and film industry is like fucking for virginity, but then I remembered I just took on an NFTS graduate and, although I haven't found her any work yet, at least she can say she's got an agent.

I'm sorry it's not working out, James. It's a horrible industry.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Thanks very much everyone - I was just having a moan, but a lot of you have given me reassurance that I'm not alone. Fucking someone in the industry or moving to LA aren't really what my wife would consider good options, but I appreciate the suggestions. Maybe it's just the people I mix with, but everybody seems to be trying to get into the media industry. Which makes me think - what other industries are there left in Britain? Retail? Real Estate? Offers of work may indeed be erratic for me, but I fear I'm just too entrenched - changing careers seems such an abstract proposition.

James Stevens, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

James - if you want some advice drop me an email. I can tell you if I lived in LA right now I'd be working in the industry. But getting your work permit for there is difficult. I'm in the midst of some pretty cool things on my own back though - but you need US contacts to realise anything.

Czan, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)


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