Bill Gates, Bono drink beer, smoke down, talk policy together after U2 concert

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When in Seattle, Bono Bunks with Bill Gates
Tue Apr 26, 7:07 AM ET Entertainment - Reuters

SEATTLE (Reuters) - When U2's lead singer came to Seattle over the weekend for a concert, there was only one logical place to stay -- the home of Bill Gates, who shares Bono's passion for Third World development and relief efforts.

"I was one of 20,000 screaming fans," Microsoft Corp.'s co-founder Gates told Reuters. Gates, the world's richest man, said he got to know Bono through his work with his philanthropy.


Gates said that Irish rocker Bono was staying with him and that the two hung out together after the concert in Seattle.


The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, with an endowment of $28 billion, is the world's biggest charitable organization and aims to improve the health of people in the developing world.


"We're big believers that more needs to be done in developing countries," Gates said. "Let me tell you, Bono has had a huge impact."


Bono is a vocal advocate of Third World debt relief and Gates' foundation has given out more than $4 billion for global health since its inception to fight diseases such as AIDS and malaria.


Asked if their friendship would entice him to buy one of Microsoft rival Apple Computer Inc.'s black-and-red U2 edition iPods, Gates said: "Absolutely not."

kingfish, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Is Gates still the world's richest man? I thought somebody else was now.

ANDY --, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the Ikea guy is now I think.

diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

in related news, Microsoft pulled their support from a Washington State gay rights bill, which went on to fail by one vote last week.

...Ballmer said the intervention of the Rev. Ken Hutcherson, an opponent of the legislation, had prompted the company to clarify its neutral stance on the bill after testimony by two company employees, who offered their personal views in favor of the legislation, had clouded the issue.

Hutcherson had threatened to push for a national boycott of Microsoft products if the company did not relent. But Ballmer said the company had not shifted its position because of pressure from the religious right. He noted that the company declined to grant two of Hutcherson's requests: that the two employees who testified in favor of the bill be fired and that the company issue a strong statement that the bill was unnecessary.

Ballmer said he and Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates "personally support this legislation that would outlaw discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. But that is my personal view, and I also know that many employees and shareholders would not agree with me."

kingfish, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

It ain't me, bub.

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Huk-L, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

1. William Gates III
2. Warren Buffett
3. Karl Albrecht
4. Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud
5. Andy
6. Alice Walton
7. Helen Walton
8. Jim Walton
9. John Walton
10. S Robson Walton

Shit, he is.. and I'm only #5. The Waltons are doing pretty good for theyselves.

andy --, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Do religious wackos even use computers, though? Doesn't the internet imply evolution?

Huk-L, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

screwing workers out of benefits does tend to help the portfolio.

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diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Sigh.. I know this was all reiterated on a recent Seattle thread...

but, gay and lesbian Microsoft workers are not being denied benefits.. they have same-sex domestic partnership benefits, not unlike a lot of big companies.

It's just that, for reasons beyond my comprehension, MS has decided this past year, according to their spokespeople, to stay away from supporting state bills that deal with "social issues". They claim that this Hutcherson freak (my insult, not theirs) came along after their stance on the bill was made. The Stranger is insinuating that Microsoft buckled down after pressure from Hutcherson. Who do you believe? Who knows.

All I know is:

* Hutcherson is an asshat and should be sent far away.
* The bill didn't pass because of a homophobic Democrat in the Aberdeen area.. an area that could really give a shit about what Microsoft thinks or supports. So Microsoft's support or lack thereof wouldn't have really mattered.

Am I upset about the lack of support of the bill by MS? Yes. Does this mean Microsoft is a homophobic corporation. Of course not! Does this mean Microsoft is incorporating typical "deter bad PR"/"remain neutral in public while being progressive internally" maneuvers? Of course. Does this maneuver always work? In this case, hell no.

I hope MS learns from this. But it would be equally ignorant to start branding MS as a homophobic corporation.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Still, you can't deny Bill Gates has shitty taste in music.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

He's no Paul Allen.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Also, Seattle city (and I believe some surrounding suburbs) have city laws dictating bans on sexuality-based discrimination. Not sure about Redmond, Bellevue, etc. but obviously -- since I know many gay and lesbian people who work at Microsoft happily -- the biggest company in Redmond does not discriminate.

This bill would have radically changed things east of the Cascades, essentially. Gay and lesbians in Spokane, or in more rural, conservative parts of Washington wouldn't have to hide their sexuality in order to get hired anyway in the state. And it sucks that we'll have to wait longer to give this bill another try. Then again, about 95% of the gay population lives in greater Seattle, and I've never heard of any gay person being denied a job for sexuality reasons. It's not as if it's in job questionnares or anything. Also given the large number of gay and lesbian employers in the city, you'd think...

that said, gay and lesbian employers are not immune to bigotry themselves, as I can personally attest from a good friend of mine.

Still, you can't deny Bill Gates has shitty taste in music.

Yeah, Sub Pop should work with Bill Gates and get him to "get" Wolf Eyes. (insert joke about how shitty Wolf Eyes are here)

I did once see a promo MS video where Bill Gates and Queen Latifah were "chillin'".

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

although there were plenty of Bill Gates lookalikes at the Sonic Youth/Wolf Eyes/Jackie O MF show last year. You never know!

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile, a POOR GUY JUST WANTED TO BRING HIS ACOUSTIC GUITAR INTO THE U2 SHOW LAST NIGHT, MAN. HE DIDN'T NEED TO BE KICKED OUT!

(I'm not kidding.)

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

why does bono hate gays?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

the failure of "Discoteque" I suppose.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

hahaha

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

I don't like Microsoft particularly, but I think that they were in a no win situation with the bill. Here's Ballmer's response.

Open your eyes; you can fly! (ex machina), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

actually, maybe bono talked some sense into billy during their little meeting.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I personally know people who have probably talked some sense. I'm glad to see the shift.

Now, can someone throw Rev. Hutcherson to the orcas, please?

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

http://www.seaworld.org/just-for-teachers/guides/orcas/images/whales.jpg

"HOMOPHOBIC REVERENDS = YUMMY"

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

Ah, the shit gets stinkier...

Microsoft defends ties to Ralph Reed -- Critics want conservative consultant fired

While I don't feel as sick as I did the day after Election Day 2004, today is pretty damn close. MS is gonna have to learn the hard way, i guess. Meanwhile, I'll have to be apologetic when I explain to someone where I work for the next three months.

Can't WAIT to see Ballm3r and Gat3s's reactions to this.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

This editorial is completely OTM, so much so, that I'm reprinting it.

Payments to Reed sully Microsoft

By ROBERT L. JAMIESON Jr.
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER COLUMNIST

The man dubbed "The Right Hand of God" has fingerprints all over Microsoft. Still.

Ralph Reed is more than a Friend of Bill -- he is a paid GOP consultant, getting $20,000 a month from Microsoft to help shape the software behemoth's image in the global marketplace.

Judging from Reed's past -- he was the former head of the evangelical Christian Coalition -- that means serving up vitriolic viewpoints about gays and lesbians.

Judging from Microsoft's actions -- the company just yanked its support of a legislative bill in Olympia to protect gays -- the Reed brand of insight is shining through.

Microsoft yesterday confirmed its ongoing relationship with Reed, who raised eyebrows five years ago when he turned up on Microsoft's payroll. At the time, Reed was a hired gun. His charge was to influence future President George W. Bush to support Microsoft in its antitrust battle with the Justice Department.

Some observers figured Microsoft would wipe its hands clean of Reed back then. That didn't happen.

Financial documents posted this week to a Web log show Reed's relationship is far cozier than I imagined when I hinted at his red-state influence on Microsoft on Monday.

Microsoft has been paying Reed's company, Century Strategies, the $20,000 monthly fee since at least November, according to the blog, though Microsoft officials yesterday described the relationship as going back "several years."

Century Strategies, which has offices in Georgia and Washington, D.C., is being paid for expertise "on international trade and competition issues," Microsoft spokesman Mark Murray told me yesterday. "Century Strategies has never advised Microsoft on any social policy issues, including the anti-discrimination legislation."

Murray, who confirmed the accuracy of the information posted on the Americablog Web site, adds, "We do work with a number of consultants, Republicans and Democrats."

This much is true. Microsoft, though, fails to see the bigger picture. What is most troubling here is Reed's bedside relationship with Microsoft around the same time the company backtracked suddenly from gay rights legislation it had embraced just a year ago.

From the outside, it appears Microsoft was influenced by Reed -- a man who has President Bush's ear, has a following of millions of conservative Christians who think homosexuality is a sin, and who pushes the evangelical agenda every chance he gets.

Microsoft may not have hired Reed for his social views, but once he gets in the door it's a full-on Holy Roller revival.

Pastor Ken Hutcherson of Antioch Bible Church on the Eastside shares Reed's mind-set. As The Stranger first reported last week, the minister turned up the heat on Microsoft, which is progressive about gay rights in its workplace. Hutcherson wanted Microsoft to back away from its support of the bill and earlier this year had the audacity to ask the company to take a public stand against gay rights.

The bill died last week.

Microsoft took a neutral position, though the company says it arrived at its decision about the bill in December -- before Hutcherson knocked on the door. The minister says he is the one who moved Microsoft, threatening a boycott.

But even before Hutcherson raised a fuss, Reed was doling out compassionate conservative consulting to Microsoft.

Microsoft's backpedaling has the mark of fundamentalist zealotry and Century Strategies stamped all over it. The consulting company has a reputation for rounding up Christian opposition to dish out a right-wing force-feeding.

And Microsoft swallowed.

Does this make the Redmond-based company a symbol of corporate evil? No.

It does show how Microsoft allowed itself to be manhandled by outside forces and become misguided.

Bill Gates and Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer say they personally support gay rights. Both of them are now going through the kind of introspection that makes Hamlet look stoic. Microsoft's struggle -- to be socially progressive or not to be -- raises philosophical questions that would cause angst for any company, much less an industry leader.

Should a company reflect the views of its CEO or its corporate board? Or is a company ultimately responsible to shareholders and the bottom line?

When should a company get involved in politics? Must a company's public position match its internal policies? What does a company do when some employees embrace issues such as gay rights while others do not?

Where does all of this fit in with a company's responsibility to be a good corporate citizen?

Arriving at the answers is a doozy -- and Microsoft deserves some credit for now doing soul searching.

This is also true: When Microsoft faced the question of the gay rights bill it let the right hand of God draw the line in the sand in the wrong place.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

http://www.fscklog.com/images/gatespowerbook.jpg

he probably also bought that u2 ipod.

nathalie in a bar under the sea (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

http://www.aromeo.net/archives/microsoft-matrix_1.jpg

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)


Ha - look at that cheap headboard! What is that, a Motel 6?

All of the time, and none of the art (dymaxia), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Microsoft chief promises more dialogue on gay-rights issues

blah blah blah

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
Other ways for Bill Gates to spend his money:

#245. Hiring Jon Heder for a recruitment video

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8642/gateslollerblading8gl.jpg

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 15 September 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)

NOOOO. IT CANNNN'T BEEEEEE!

I WALK THERE... EVERY DAY!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/rosemary_s_baby/mia_farrow/rosemary1.jpg

donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Thursday, 15 September 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

holy shit, Jon Heder was in Cannibal! the Musical!

he plays Matt Stone's character's little brother!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115819/

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 15 September 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)


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