When People in Your Family Are Rotten

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Here's the scenerio:

My parents recently visited the state where my aunt & uncle (who have been divorced for some time) live. The uncle (my dad's brother) knows we've all kept in touch with his ex . . . she is still my aunt even if they're not married! Besides, they had kids together. Cousins I am close to & two of them live with their mom.
The plan was that for this one weekend that my parents were going to be there, I would drive out & visit. My parents & I would end up at my aunt's house for Friday night & we'd end up all leaving by Saturday afternoon.
I find out the night before I leave that my uncle has called my dad, he's hurt & pissed off because they're staying with my aunt. I should mention that both the uncle & the aunt knew of my parents plans to visit for some time & the ONLY person to offer their house as a place to stay was my aunt. Also, the uncle knew for WEEKS that my parents were staying with her.
So my parents apologize to uncle, they're so sorry they hurt him, it wasn't their intention, etc. They stay in a hotel instead of at her house. Uncle refuses to see either of them.
Since then, the uncle has refused to speak to my family because of this incident. There have been many apologies from my parents, but he's having none of it. He has a track record of being a self-pitying asshole but everyone is too decent to mention this.
It's just so frustrating that there's this issue now. On top of this, I think my uncle's new wife has been talking to his (& my dad's) sister & now she (the sister) thinks my dad has been taking money from my grandpa. my dad has been the one designated as having power of attorney & has been handling grandpa's finances, but he turned it over to a third party just to avoid these sorts of messes. clearly, that doesn't matter.
it's just so sad.
last night i had a dream that i wrote my uncle a letter about all this. in the dream the letter was very gentle, quiet. buddhist-like, in many ways. i must say, it is tempting. i know it's not my place but i find his behavior toward my family so selfish & awful. i don't understand holding onto that kind of pain. it's like he needs it to satisfy something very empty within him.
anyway, thanks for letting me vent.

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I don't think you have anything to lose by writing the letter; seeing as your uncle is already behaving as if your family is borne of the Devil, you probably can't offend him any more.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

in the dream i also sent a book on anger. if i do write him a letter i should probably not send him a book on anger.

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Let your uncle pout. He's trying to control you guys with it. I mean, obviously bending over backwards to accommodate his feelings didn't do any good, because all it taught him was that he could keep doing it & have everyone paying attention to him. I mean it's the same as a child throwing a tantrum. And what your uncle's new wife thinks is irrelevant, really - I mean, you can't control her making up stuff that isn't true, and you can't control whether or not your uncle believes it, so why worry? You just can't help it and if a third party is taking care of the finances there's obviously even less call to worry.

daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, sounds like everyone being "too decent" has only enabled your uncles behavior. He doesn't need decent, and he doesn't need Buddhist. He needs to have a good, friendly fist fight in the backyard, and lose.

happy fun ball (kenan), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, sic Brooke Valentine on him.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Shirtless, of course.

http://www.grandiose.com/resources/fisticuffs.gif

(xpost)

happy fun ball (kenan), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

He has a track record of being a self-pitying asshole but everyone is too decent to mention this.

The best thing to do with people like this is to ignore them completely, they want any kind of attention they can get so that they get another chance to play the victim card. That said, I don't think it would hurt too much to send him a letter.

Leon Jones Reynolds (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I agree. He seems to be Captain Feel Sorry For Me any opportunity he can. I may send a letter. I may not. It would probably only really serve to make me feel better, not create any positive change.

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)


Passive-aggressive people who give you the silent treatment. I'm very familiar with this type.

All of the time, and none of the art (dymaxia), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
My father has always been a disgusting racist, but dammit, now my mother is infected!

"You should see if FEMA will pay for your tree, because they're giving double food stamps to all the blacks and they're emptying out the stores."

Aaargh! I finally lost it with her, but the only part I'll repeat is "You need to quit watching Fox News, because that shit is POISONING YOUR MIND."

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

My cousin wrote a text for MIT called "A Computational Model of Prefrontal Control in Free Recall: Strategic Memory Use in the California Verbal Learning Task"

Several decades of research into the function of the frontal lobes in brain-damaged patients, and more recently in intact individuals using function brain imaging, has delineated the complex executive functions of the frontal cortex. And yet, the mechanisms by which the brain achieves these functions remain poorly understood. Here, we present a computational model of the role of the prefrontal cortex (PFC) in controlled memory use that may help to shed light on the mechanisms underlying one aspect of frontal control: the development and deployment of recall strategies. The model accounts for interactions between the PFC and medial temporal lobe in strategic memory use. The PFC self-organizes its own mnemonic codes using internally derived performance measures. These mnemonic codes serve as retrieval cues by biasing retrieval in the medial temporal lobe memory system. We present data from three simulation experiments that demonstrate strategic encoding and retrieval in the free recall of categorized lists of words. Experiment 1 compares the performance of the model with two control networks to evaluate the contribution of various components of the model. Experiment 2 compares the performance of normal and frontally lesioned models to data from several studies using frontally intact and frontally lesioned individuals, as well as normal, healthy individuals under conditions of divided attention. Experiment 3 compares the model's performance on the recall of blocked and unblocked categorized lists of words to data from Stuss et al. (1994) for individuals with control and frontal lobe lesions. Overall, our model captures a number of aspects of human performance on free recall tasks: an increase in total words recalled and in semantic clustering scores across trials, superiority on blocked lists of related items compared to unblocked lists of related items, and similar patterns of performance across trials in the normal and frontally lesioned models, with poorer overall performance of the lesioned models on all measures. The model also has a number of shortcomings, in light of which we suggest extensions to the model that would enable more sophisticated forms of strategic control."

PURPLE MONKEY DISHWASHER

LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

Though she did have some FUCKED UP and really sad stories about her research at Stanford on kids BORN WITHOUT REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

I think I've whined about my snake-handling fundie relatives enough at ILX.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

Aaargh! I finally lost it with her, but the only part I'll repeat is "You need to quit watching Fox News, because that shit is POISONING YOUR MIND."

I go through the same thing with my grandmother in Memphis. We were watching protests one night and she gave me "the only reason those people have the right to protest is because of the army men fighting those terrorists over there." It took everything for me not to throw a cylinder.

But I don't hate her and she isn't rotten. I just know that the world must look very strange to her these days, and she isn't quite too sure just how to react to it.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 8 September 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

I agree PP - old people have shit for brains, but they can be really nice. My pops is casually racist, has cheated on Mom (or at least the time *I* caught him via a fucking answering machine message from some BITCH), manipulated his church to move venue closer to where he lives despite him never going to church...he's like a bloody american! But he does have some good in him: he can play soccer and table tennis like a motherfucker. Composite paddles and everything.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 8 September 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

When he gets into a game of ping-pong you catch him sweat sweat sweatin, ping pong ping pong, face all serious to the point of GWB-like contorted scowls. It's PING PONG man, PING PONG!

LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 8 September 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

If he added Martina Hingis-like sexgrunts to each manouvre I'd have capped his ass ages ago.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 8 September 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

plz introduce me to your "ski instructor," I am in need of "lessons."

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

So, did kelsey write a letter?

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I didn't.
They might be making small talk by now, though. I'd have to ask my dad.

kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

It's funny, but making this thread did help get it out of my system. It made the situation seem as stupid as it is/was & the letter got pushed back into my head until I forgot about it.

kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)


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