Bush Speaks 4/28

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57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://image.com.com/mp3/images/cover/200/drd600/d683/d683566urrw.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm, I wonder how Asian central bankers like owning all those "empty promises."

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh, now offering Americans the opportunity to invest in those same empty promises? Of course the idiots in the folding chairs in front of the dais will lap this shit right up.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

All the Sunday mornin' pundits have said his Social Security plan is dead in the water...

andy --, Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Doesn't a President who speaks at a 10th grade level celebrate the "soft bigotry of low expectations"?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Republican Party headed for a meltdooooooown! so awesome (and so totally predictable)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(fingers crossed)

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Great question about Vlad Putin!

57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the blood's already in the water - several very public legislative stumbles post-reelection (Schiavo, Social Security), idealogical split between the Christian Right radical loonies and more traditional conservatives, no big selling points (tax cut? uh, yeah economy's really rockin now ennit! the war? uh, don't pay any attention to that disaster... terrorism? "I don't think much about where Osama is")... add all that up to mid-term elections and a unified Democratic front, the Republicans are FUCKED. Hubris and in-fighting have torpedoed many a second presidential term.

(I'm not watching/listening to Bush btw, since he never says anything important/intelligent/relevant. I can just read about it later).

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.madprofessor.net/images/clash.jpg

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

david brent and george bush have the same speech patterns

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahha... I just flipped it on and he can't keep Syria and Lebanon straight. Can't wait to see this on the Daily Show.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm watching it and it's just a total cringeathon. I'd turn it off, but I'm just waiting for this to be over so they can put on The OC.

Shakey, I think you're right, and I have faith that this will eventually happen, but I've had some major skepticism beaten into me by these people over the last five years. I do think they are in hubris mode, but I fear the severe damage that could happen when they really start flailing.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

If only Dubya would break into "Free Love on the Free Love Freeway"...

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(and seriously you guys are all suffering for me and I appreciate it - I can't actually bear to watch him talk, its too painful)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my God you're so right about the David Brent comparison.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

it's the way he answers the absurd questions he asks

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's worth pointing out that in the lead-up to November, liberals and lefties were crowing about the pending meltdown and everyone hates Bush and YEAH WE GONNA ROUT 'IM and so on.

And then Kerry lost, the GOP gained seats in Congress and the great Bush backlash never manifested itself.

Don't get your hopes up, dudes.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

When Bush tries to convince all of America to place their assets in the hands of the stock market, I just wonder whether or not he and his masters were put on earth to destroy capitalism. Cos it's such a terrible plan, it's just begging for a depression.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The fact that, on one hand, he is calling the Treasury debt held in the Social Security trust fund worthless "empty promises," and on the other hand encouraging individual Americans to invest in those selfsame government securities, is a ridiculous contradiction that should not be lost on people. Alas, I believe it will be.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

whatever Milo, I thought Kerry was gonna win for about five minutes, that was all election hooey. I was ashamed the Democrats nominated him. But dynamics are very different post-election....

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(also - taking on Social Security was a completely misguided legislative decision because its bound to alienate a key, powerful consistuency, ie., OLD PEOPLE)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

omg "when dealing with a tyrant, the best way to deal with him is assume he can deliver a nuclear weapon"

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

if only there was some recent evidence about the merits of that assumption!

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Dubya's banking on the young folks to get w/this privatization plan - its clear from the language he uses to push it - the problem is, this current generation has come of age in an era that witnessed a startling boom-n-bust cycle in the stock market, making them less likely to trust it. DubyaCo can't figure out the proper selling angle for their proposal, and they can't just tell them the truth - which is that they have a decades old hard-on to destroy FDRs institutional legacy and will pursue that goal at any cost.

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Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Santorum is going to lose his Seante seat in 2006! Yay!

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"I had a nice chat with Vlady-mir..."

I had to turn it off he was so boring. Is it just me or does he sort of resemble Johnny Carson now when he pulls those smirks and glances?

m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice job by the networks bailing out Shrub in the middle of a tough technical question (or at least what would pass for one from this group).

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i would love for shakey to be correct, but i am afraid instead that milo is probably correct.

one of the wisest things someone has ever told me: "never underestimate the power of the stupid."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

YOUR SPOUSE MIGHT DIE EARLY
YOU'LL GET YOUR CHECK
MEH-ZHUR

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

STOCKS AND BONNNDS

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Bush is now Bob Dole. he should go shill for Ambien

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think it was some sinister thing, cutting when they did - they just wanted to get back to the regular schedule, which in Fox's case meant skipping The OC altogether.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

who cut away early? I was watching ABC and they did the whole thing plus post-coverage.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice job by the networks bailing out Shrub in the middle of a tough technical question

It's incredible how they give him multiple choice questions:
"would you describe the weak economy as a) a bump in the road or b) a continuing trend?"

Let him use his own cliches ffs.

Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Hubris and in-fighting have torpedoed many a second presidential term.

In this case it torpedoed the first one as well.

So [and I don't fully understand this; I refuse to watch or hear the fuckstick talk] if Bush is up there telling Americans to invest in the stock exchange en masse, and it's a doomed plan that will destroy anyone who follows it, and Bush supporters are the only ones paying attention, then the only people rendered bankrupt in six months will be Bush supporters, many of whom will probably die of starvation. So how's this a bad thing again?

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

According to cnn.com:

the president also pushed for a Social Security reform proposal in which benefits for low income-workers would increase faster than for wealthier Americans.

Hang on. A conservative US president supporting the lower classes? What's the ulterior motive here?

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Another question about the new SS proposal: Did he say that it would be optional? i.e., would the gov't still manage your money if you didn't want to do it yourself?

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

This new sliding-scale benefit business is a side show. Bush is still not proposing a solution to the problem he has identified: the alleged future insolvency of the Social Security program.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

So this was the only bit that I managed to see...

And I think the United Nations is important.

As a matter of fact, I'll give you an example: Today I met with the United Nations representative to Syria, Mr. Larsen.

BUSH: He's an impressive fellow.

Now, he's delivered -- to Lebanon, excuse me. He's delivered a very strong message to the Syrian leader, though, that the world expects President Assad to withdraw not only his military forces, but his intelligence services, completely from Lebanon.

And now he is in charge of following up to make sure it happens.

I think that's a very important and useful role for the United Nations to play.

We have played a role. France has played a role. A lot of nations have played roles. But the United Nations has done a very good job in Syria -- with Syria in Lebanon of making it sure that the world expects the Lebanese elections to be free in May, without Syrian influence.

He's an impressive fellow. I applaud him for his hard work. But there's an example of why I think the United Nations is an important body.

On the other hand, the United Nations has had some problems that we've all seen.

BUSH: And if we expect the United Nations to be effective, it needs to clean up its problems. And I think it makes sense to have somebody representing the United States who will be straightforward about the issues.

Stretch?

Do you mind if I call you Stretch in front of your...

QUESTION: I've been called worse.

BUSH: OK.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 29 April 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

If it weren't for the fact there's allegedly some sort of 'come meet us and not get revolted, um, please' thing happening among the NRO crowd tomorrow in Atlanta, I'd say that the silence on the Corner after some initial comments was almost suspicious.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 April 2005 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

incidentally, did the o.c. ever come on tonight? I'm going to be really chafed if i missed a fresh one because of this crap.

Luis, Friday, 29 April 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

They are going to run two episodes of The OC next Thursday to make up for it. That's what the website says, anyway.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 29 April 2005 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Things are way fun here now.

You've got Bush, who can only read or think in captions and as long as he's given the chance to smirk, is pretty happy.

You've got Cheney/Rove and the other neocon Project for the New American signatures/pro-war-profiteers who are invested in US domination of Earth and, as Richard Perle put it in his book, "An End to Evil", "50 years of glorious war" against, um, whomever.

Then there are febrile 'free market' delusionals such as Grover Norquist who are pining for the collapse of the US government, because only then will the 'magic of the maketplace', in hand with Lord Jesus, be allowed to manifest and a sort of neo-feudal state to come into being.

In short: think Enron, but with less ethics.

Ian in Brooklyn, Saturday, 30 April 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

One word: "ass-bestus" (asbestos)

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 30 April 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"ass-bestus" (asbestos)

The man has an accent. Get over it. There are much, much more serious things about which to criticize him.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

(sorry, I shouldn't have directed that specifically at that particular comment since the Bush-accent "hilarity" abounds throughout this entire thread)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

T/S: Jimmy Carter saying "nuke-ya-lar" vs. G.W. Bu$h saying "nuke-ya-lar."

Curious George (Bat Chain Puller) (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

b-b-but Jimmy Carter was a nukeyalar physicist!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)


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