― lll, Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― lllll, Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)
because they're my parents?
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)
no. unless they are/were abusive i can't see why anyone would do this.
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)
I hate talking to my mom, but I do call her a few times a week because she freaks out if I don't.
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)
Word.
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)
Well, I'm American and they're divorced. They're unusual people. They don't really 'love' me I guess.
― lllll, Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)
i haven't spoken to my dad in about 10 years.
― strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)
But I also don't feel weighed down by their judgments or criticisms since I don't let myself be contingent on them at all.
― lllll, Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― lllll, Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)
Are you all proud of your parents?
― lllll, Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)
(not to derail this thread too much, but I am genuinely curious of people's estimations of their respective mothers' sanity)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― you better believe it (you better believe it), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
they don't understand me! i didn't ask to be born!
― latebloomer: But when the monkey die, people gonna cry. (latebloomer), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer: But when the monkey die, people gonna cry. (latebloomer), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)
i haven't seen either of them since easter, though.
― joseph (joseph), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curious George (Bat Chain Puller) (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― mouse (mouse), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost
― lllll, Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― irrigation can save your people (irrigation can save your peopl), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)
As for my mother, I live with her and love her very much. She's been wonderful.
― Ian Riese-Moraine has a grenade, that pineapple's not just a toy! (Eastern Mantr, Friday, 6 May 2005 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)
(I will provide Miss Misery with an airtight alibi should she decide to do her biological father some serious harm.)
― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)
My mother I talk to I guess every other week, but it's difficult as she is moody, critical, and controlling, and has suffered for many years from major depression but refuses to get treatment. Furthermore she believes life is hopeless, hates people, her job, and where she lives, is always pulling guilt trips on me for trying to keep some distance, and is sure we are living in the end times. Some Catholic prophecy! I try not to let all that get me down. It's not easy.
― daria g (daria g), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)
My brother has never come down here to visit me :(
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― gem (trisk), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 6 May 2005 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Friday, 6 May 2005 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Evolutionary psychologists would say yes. If you can agree that a human's underlying (albeit subconscious) objective behind every action and interaction is to facilitate, maximize and fortify procreation (which, ultimately, is just the perpetuation of genes), then it makes sense that males would be more likely to be absent.
Consider each gender's contribution to a pregnancy: the female, once she's impregnated, carries the offspring with her for nine months before she gives birth; the male's contribution can (literally) last twenty seconds. After he impregnates her, there's little reason (except for protecting the child in utero, ensuring its health and providing for it once it's born) for him to stay-- he could impregnate hundreds of other women before the initial female gave birth. She can only have @ one child per year, so it's beneficial for her to stay with that one child, nurture it, and make sure it grows into a creature than procreate effectively.
There's also another suggestion that since males (excluding DNA tests) can never truly trust that they are the father of their offspring, there might not be as strong of a connection between father and offspring as there is between mother and offspring (mothers, of course, are certain that their offspring came from them, regardless of the father). This might explain why males are inherently more jealous than females..
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 6 May 2005 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)
and i talk to my parents on the phone every three weeks or so. almost always to my mom. she'll put my dad on the phone and he'll ask about money questions and logistics, etc. i talk to them much more on e-mail.
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 6 May 2005 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)
but now to my horror i see myslef picking up little bits of his personality traits, getting angry over nothing, hiding my feelings till they boil over into a huge row, and keeping people at arms length cause i dont trust anyone.
i hate it, but i cant seem to stop it, only keep apologising for it.
my mother is totally nurotic and has obsessive compulsive disorder and needs me to call her twice a day to tell her where i am and how im doing.
― md2020 (pixie), Friday, 6 May 2005 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)
My father - since my parents split up (and even before then, really) - he calls me maybe twice a year, birthdays and christmas (when he can remember when my birthday is.) Communication has got better with the use of email. We probably write about once a month (In fact, I should email him to let him know his consituencey has gone Tory again.) more for just sort of informational exchanges rather than any kind of contact.
― Lapdog Shoesnog (kate), Friday, 6 May 2005 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 6 May 2005 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)
Recently, they've started calling me at work because they're often out on the evenings when I'm in (and vice versa), and I really, really wish they wouldn't do it because all ears prick up when somebody has a long personal phone call and it's hard to get rid without causing offence. Generally, I get on with them OK as long as I don't have to spend too much time in their company. If I do, their bickering winds me up and we have fights.
― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 6 May 2005 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― emsk, Friday, 6 May 2005 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam (adam), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tag (Tag), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kid with the long hair that walks dogs/dogs, Friday, 6 May 2005 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
My dad I speak to less often, probably one or two times every two months. I know he loves me, he can just be rather wrapped up in his own life (as can I, I'm very much my father's daughter in some respects). It did hurt when he forgot to send me a birthday card last year. And, lovely as my step-mum is, I'd prefer it if holiday postcards came in his writing rather than hers.
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alix with an i? (alix), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)
It's hard to talk to my mom though on the phone or in person because she never seems to want to hear me talk, she wants to do all the talking. And she complains - A LOT - about her job and life and basically everything. She gets really depressed. But sometimes she's incredibly cheerful and comforting and mom-like. It depends on the day.
When/if I do talk to my dad on the phone, he keeps it VERY short and sweet. He'll ask me how Nick is, how my job is going, and, somewhat jokingly, how my cats are doing. Then he say he loves me and goodbye.
I never talk to my step-mom. If I do see her in person, which is usually only because it's Christmas and all the relatives are there, she MIGHT say hello to me, but only if I initiate it.
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)
I call my youngest son every week much to his disgust. He's actually sort of fun to talk to or hang out with. We usually just talk about cupons I've cut out recently or the Dilbert desk calender cartoon for that day. Sometimes it becomes annoying to hear him talk about all his weird music (what in the world is a Deerhoof?) and his liberal biases when talking about news and we argue quite a bit. Even still, he's a pretty "cool dude," as the kids would say. I've stopped calling my oldest two, a daughter and a son, all together though. In fact I haven't spoken to them in six years and frankly I don't plan on calling either one. They teamed up on me long ago in a fit of defiance so I guess I just don't feel the love from them anymore.
― earinfections (Nick Twisp), Saturday, 7 May 2005 07:27 (twenty-one years ago)
My father *did* die a horrible, painful and humiliating death which is why I don't talk to him. I spoke to my mother a few minutes ago and arranged to go visit her next weekend. I speak to her every three or four weeks and probably visit her about six times a year. I always spend Christmas with her.
― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 7 May 2005 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Cathy (Cathy), Saturday, 7 May 2005 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 7 May 2005 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 7 May 2005 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― nathalie in a bar under the sea (stevie nixed), Saturday, 7 May 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)