films where villian smokes cigarette through his neck, post tracheotomy, as signifier of 'true' amorality

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saw this recently in ONG BAK (beyond awesome Tony Jaa flick).

what previous films is this recycled from?

― Danny T, Friday, 6 May 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Dead Again.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 May 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

It's in "Dead Again," but I don't really think it's much of a signifier in that film.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

he wasn't a villain, but it was used with Andy Garcia's character in Dead Again when he was dying in his hospital bed. This was his character in the present, and I think it was a nice grim contrast with his suave, slick, ladies' man younger self from the '40s.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

fuckers

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

It can't have originated in Dead Again, as everything else in it was borrowed...

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I curse this thread for making me have to think about Dead Again just when I had blocked it from my memory bank.

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it really the villian? Isn't it usually a potential informant, a mere stooge and former associate of the villian, usually bedridden, his sorry physical state allowing the hero to use an interrogation technique consisting of offering and then withdrawing the lit cigarette from the tracheotomy hole?

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― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I curse this thread for making me have to think about Dead Again just when I had blocked it from my memory bank.

For a while there I quite liked that film. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein did much good in undermining my early nineties "That Branagh, he knows what he's doing" spell.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

All I can think of is Beetlejuice, but I think the character in that one (one of the dead characters) smokes the cigarette through her mouth and then exhales the smoke through her slit neck. And obviously this was a joke, not a signifier of anything.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

And then Love's Labours Lost totally killed it for you?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the dead Medicis Dante in Hell meets speaks through his slit throat...

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

And then Love's Labours Lost totally killed it for you?

Much Ado About Nothing more like, though I should have known. Keanu.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.astor-theatre.com/images/hamlet/cam-branagh.gif
BRANAGH

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Keanu and Denzel gave the best perfs in Much Ado About Nothing. Male beauty hata!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 May 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

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