Craigslist.org Founder Eyes Journalism...The bare-bones site — a trusted resource for everything from finding roommates to selling used cars in 105 cities in 23 countries, charges for very few classifieds, doesn't serve up traditional ads and plans no major changes to its business model.Instead, founder Craig Newmark told Associated Press editors and writers in a bureau visit, his newest fascination is community journalism.Newmark hopes to develop a pool of "talented amateurs" who could investigate scandals, cover politics and promote the most important and credible stories. Articles would be published on Internet sites ranging from Craigslist to individual Web logs, or blogs.Craigslist.org gets more than 4 million classified ads and 1 million forums postings each month, and Newmark — who no longer runs it but remains one of three board members — is often blamed for decimating classified advertising revenue at regional newspapers. But he says he has no desire to steal readers from mainstream media.But he believes the reason why newspapers are losing circulation is that too many traditional journalists are willing to quote politicians and business executives even if they're blatantly lying — merely for the sake of perceived objectivity. He'd prefer an "open source" model of journalism where legions of volunteers act as writers, assignment editors and fact checkers to challenge mainstream journalists."People are looking for attitude and guts in reporting — not full-on gonzo journalism, but hey, tell us what you think," said Newmark, who described himself as having Whig values — strong on defense, fiscally conservative but socially liberal."Maybe Hunter Thompson had it right," Newmark said, referring to the late cultural icon whose rollicking, first-person narratives of drug addiction, the Hells Angels and the 1972 presidential election shook up the media decades ago...
...The bare-bones site — a trusted resource for everything from finding roommates to selling used cars in 105 cities in 23 countries, charges for very few classifieds, doesn't serve up traditional ads and plans no major changes to its business model.
Instead, founder Craig Newmark told Associated Press editors and writers in a bureau visit, his newest fascination is community journalism.
Newmark hopes to develop a pool of "talented amateurs" who could investigate scandals, cover politics and promote the most important and credible stories. Articles would be published on Internet sites ranging from Craigslist to individual Web logs, or blogs.
Craigslist.org gets more than 4 million classified ads and 1 million forums postings each month, and Newmark — who no longer runs it but remains one of three board members — is often blamed for decimating classified advertising revenue at regional newspapers. But he says he has no desire to steal readers from mainstream media.
But he believes the reason why newspapers are losing circulation is that too many traditional journalists are willing to quote politicians and business executives even if they're blatantly lying — merely for the sake of perceived objectivity. He'd prefer an "open source" model of journalism where legions of volunteers act as writers, assignment editors and fact checkers to challenge mainstream journalists.
"People are looking for attitude and guts in reporting — not full-on gonzo journalism, but hey, tell us what you think," said Newmark, who described himself as having Whig values — strong on defense, fiscally conservative but socially liberal.
"Maybe Hunter Thompson had it right," Newmark said, referring to the late cultural icon whose rollicking, first-person narratives of drug addiction, the Hells Angels and the 1972 presidential election shook up the media decades ago...
yeah, but would this work, or would it be another Indymedia-style collection of vaguely discontented 20-yr-olds?
― kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Saturday, 7 May 2005 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)
This guy is getting delusions of grandeur, I'm afraid.
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 7 May 2005 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)
Yes, a group of talented amateurs are going to put in 50-60 hour weeks to do the investigative reporting that major newspapers are cutting back on because it's too time-consuming and expensive.
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 7 May 2005 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 7 May 2005 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 7 May 2005 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Saturday, 7 May 2005 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)
http://news.com.com/eBay+buys+into+Craigslist/2100-1038_3-5308911.html
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 7 May 2005 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 7 May 2005 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 7 May 2005 06:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 May 2005 07:24 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, what Craig Newmark or anyone else will find is that a lot of what they think of as the problems and faults of "mainstream media" are to some degree inevitable consequences of trying to produce journalism. I look forward to him getting his letter accusing him of being a Tool of the Man. But at the same time, there are puh-lenty of deep and genuine flaws in the mainstream media, so there's certainly room for other people to get in and try to do good work.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eric von H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rhodia (Rhodia), Saturday, 7 May 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 May 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 7 May 2005 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)
It's actually a satire of that very thing.
― Eric von H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 May 2005 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 7 May 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 7 May 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 7 May 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)
har! i can do mortgage stuff! give me beer, and i'll process your loan!
― kingfish, Saturday, 7 May 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)