Doctor Who 2005: The Second Half

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The old thread has reached 1000 posts pretty much so as Pete says time for a regeneration. Post your plot holes, Bad Wolf references, dodgy cameos, gay agendas, continuity quibbles, ratings speculations, magic mobile phones and reinventions of Saturday night TV here please!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

Bah, some regeneration. This thread looks exactly like the old one.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Yes but it has a Scottish accent.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

it's not as good as the who thread on greenspun

ja (_ja_), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

Lots of planets have a Scotland.

Serious note, I thought it was good the way the got rid of Adam. Almost as if to say, he's not our kind of chap - he keeps asking questions rather than getting involved/he does everything for himself rather than others...
(Tho perhaps a bit unfair on him).

Pete (Pete), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

Yes I liked the whole "what does it take to be a companion" subplot, it answers well a question nobody had ever really asked. Though it does make one wonder about some of the lame-arse companions he has been saddled with. "I only take the best" - ahem TURLOUGH??? Maybe it was the shorts.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

NB I wuv Turlough.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Silly speculation from Outpost Gallifrey — Adam is First Cyberman shocker!

(or perhaps not)

carson dial (carson dial), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Ooooh! I like it!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Tom, you and me was 'bout to have a what? NERDFIGHT! because Turlough is k-awesome.

I really liked the way they dealt with Adam. It was kind of great to watch someone do something egregiously wrong and see the Doctor punt him out of the TARDIS for it. Also, I kind of thought Adam sucked ass and if anyone was going to play the role of hapless companion, it should be Mickey.

I also like how this episode sets up the next episode in terms of companion "betrayal" (too tired/unfocused to think of a better word there).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

(Also was anyone else giggling at the infoginas every time they were revealed?)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Turlough is grebt but if the criteria for TARDIS kick-off include selfishness, cowardice, lack of curiosity etc then, um, yeah.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

But clearly Turlough was on the verge of getting kicked out of the TARDIS until "Enlightenment" came around! Weren't they on the verge of shooting him out of an airlock in "Terminus"?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but I'm only talking about AFTER Enlightenment, I was discreeetly not mentioning the episodes where he was actually trying to murder the Doctor!

From r.a.dw (not about gay menace amazingly)

"My sister-in-law who works in the BBC Newsroom tells me....


...it really is far too hot in the Newsroom as the aircon never works
properly and there are no windows.


...the management all inhabit the 5th floor, and people who are promoted up
there really are never seen again.


...the Director General of the BBC, Mark Thompson, also has the title
'editor in chief' of BBC News and once bit an underling he didn't like (so
I'm assured), hence the huge teeth of the Jagro-thingie.


The BBC isn't 91 years old, it's 81 years old. Close enough."


Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Infoginas. ClassiXor.

Unlikelihood of Adam being first Cyberman
a) Cyberman in the museum last week clearly predates him
b) Cybermen do not have infoginas
c) Cybermen come from Mondas/Telos/ somewhere-else rubbish
d) Its a rubbish idea.

I wonder if they did anything else to him. Not just the ice-cube vomit thing? Maybe he pisses out slush puppies.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

I just realized that Adam is the onscreen rendering of Grant Markham, the world's worst companion. Ew.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

The point is on paper Adam is a really good companion, genius, loves space & technology, inquisitive. But its the wrong kind of inquisitiveness, the wrong kind of lack of adventure bumbler. It also allowed Rose briefly to have the Doctor thing, of watching someone else share "her" adventures and her being the smart one (hence the triffic intro).

Pete (Pete), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Theory read on fansite somewhere: Adam is Bad Wolf OMG WOW etc. This would be so k-lame if true.

(It also requires him to turn into the Face of Boe though so maybe it is actually grebt.)

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Adam is definitely coming back. I mean, he's got an easily-exposed infogina and he pukes popsicles; he's destined either to become evil or get dissected by someone evil. Imagine if the coup woman from "Dalek" finds out about him!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

talking of coup woman - the secretary usurping bad guy is one of my fave who things. right now i can only recall it in Caves of Androzana - which is tremendously OTT in that sub-plot with all the talking to camera stuff.

ja (_ja_), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Considering Rose got off scot-free for letting loose a Dalek capable of killing everyone in Salt Lake City, I think the Doctor was a bit harsh on Adam. Sounds like she's in for a bollocking next episode though.

Dan OTM re: Mickey, though.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

I think intention is a big factor there, Matt; there's a world of difference between accidentally unleashing a terrible evil upon the Earth because you felt sorry for it and wanted to do something nice (an unintentional side-product being to sow the seeds of said evil's self-termination) and using every bit of technology you can find to send messages back in time to yourself so that you can pimp out in a techno stylee when you get back home (an unintentional side-product being telling the bad guys every secret you've learned about your new friends).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

I just noticed that http://whoisdoctorwho.co.uk/ (currently run by Mickey) is being mirrored at http://www.bad-wolf.co.uk/

The former is inside a single frame in the latter, with the page title changed to "but not yet..."

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

Evidence A) Mickey runs who-is-Doctor-Who, mirrored by bad wolf.
Evidence B) Welsh girl telling Rose she has seen the Bad Wolf in episode 3.
Evidence C) Bad Wolf Graffiti in Aliens Of London.

Snap conclusion: Mickey = Bad Wolf. Doctor is always putting him down after all, he is a bit niffed by him. Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf (Doctor Who Is Afraid Of The Big Bad Wolf).

Why am I even giving this nonsense the time of day in my head is beyond me.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Bad Wolf is actually an anagram of Adolf BW - further support to my belief that the Time War was orchestrated by a monochromatic Hitler revived via the implantation of a human brain, specifically Adric's.

$V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Bad Wolf is also an anagram of Blow Fad, so maybe the Doctor is going to get chased by trendy socialites looking for interstellar cocaine?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Also Flab Woad: maybe Dr Eccles will become overweight and get Ancient British tattoos?

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

"Bad Flow": The Doctor and Rose are swept up in a vortex of menses; can they assemble the Maxipad of Time before the universe is completely red-washed?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

i think chazbaps sound like a troughton era alien.

Dr Who and the Chazbaps

ja (_ja_), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Not entirely sure about tonight's episode - the Doctor has been through eight former regenerations, tons of human companions, and it doesn't occur to him that taking Rose back would be a Bad idea Indeed?

Liked the reaper/chronovore-type things, and the telephone messages from Alexander Graham Bell, but as a whole it didn't work too well for me (and those who have been annoyed about the Doctor's hands-off handling of affairs must have been really pissed off when the Doctor had a chat with the reaper).

carson dial (carson dial), Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and if they're going to bring up the paradox stuff, then Rose's question of why the Doctor can do what he does needed to be addressed better than "'cause I know better!"

carson dial (carson dial), Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

the doctor-should-know-better stuff was sort of covered in who confidential by them saying (again) how the doctor as well as rose is on a steep learning curve. though all of them pretty much agreed yeah, we know, he should know better by now... but rose is diff to all other companions etc etc... i still love everything about this series. and the reapers were seriously cool.

emsk, Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and little Mickey! Probably a little too cute, but I liked that moment as well. Confidential is itself getting on my nerves a bit, as it tries too hard to drive home that this series is "TEH BEST EVER! WITH A PROPER FEMALE COMPANION!", but I like the old actors pointing out that they did similar things in the past.

The reapers were splendid. But the incidental music - oy. Was it just me, or was there an odd, almost out-of-tune note at the end of every sad bit?

carson dial (carson dial), Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

The Streets!

Rose: This hasn't come out yet.

Dad: Thank god for that.

It was... emotional.

David Merryweather (DavidM), Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

"out-of-tune note" was deliberate wunnit. it was time warping.

for 5 mins it looks like the doctor will DO something to save the day in incomprehensible timelord way, but hurrah is foiled and we get the sapphire & steel end we were expecting.

ja (_ja_), Saturday, 14 May 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Good.

David Merryweather (DavidM), Saturday, 14 May 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Bad Wolf update: on the Thatcher posters at the beginning of the episode apparently.

carson dial (carson dial), Saturday, 14 May 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Not the best I've seen, but ja has the twist down pat, I think. Saved the episode.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 14 May 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Well done overall, but I'm not sure it felt quite as should have, overall. Might have looked more genuinely 80s for me if they'd shot it on video.

Some good writing for the regulars, and yes, it did what was asked of it (demonstrating problems associated with time meddling; filling in Rose's deeper past), but were all of the incidental elements quite there? I didn't ultimately feel as embroiled and emotionally engaged in this as in those final McCoy stories. Is this the music? Which is much too safe where it should get under your skin, as Mark Ayres and Dominic Glynn's pieces for stuff like "Ghost Light" and "Survival" did for me.

Not sure how easy it was to engage that much with the background setting and characters, as the 45 mins (in fact, 43 for this one; the shortest so far! ;)) sped by... DW book veteran Cornell does a good job overall, I would say, but did it all quite gel as a production?

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 15 May 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

One of those final notes in the music (last time Rose talked to her dad in the church?) was some kind of electronic processing bizniz applied to the last couple seconds, stretching it out, which would appear to go against the logic of what we assume that kinda music is "for". that said the music in the touching bits seems more alienating than anything, really.

did the radiophonic workshop last into the mccoy days? n.b. i'm way too young to have any kind of memories of critically watching doctor who, although i am informed i was of the legion of sofa-hiders

no one has mentioned that victor meldrew is in the next one yet, have they?

tom west (thomp), Sunday, 15 May 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

i think everything going on with 'ordinary'-vs-'extraordinary' lives seems to be in great danger of being wasted if the finale doesn't do anything good with it, although i'd need to rewatch some of them to justify that

tom west (thomp), Sunday, 15 May 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was a wonderful episode, no problems with it at all. Probably my favourite so far, in fact. The only bit of incidental music I didn't like was the crappy drum'n'bass bit when the Doctor looks like he's going to save the day.

The late emo McCoys don't compare IMO cos they have Sophie Bloody Allred in them.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 15 May 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

I saw the Dalek one. It may be the first Doctor Who episode ever that I watched from start to finish!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 15 May 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

Bad Wolf was graffiti on the lower of the two "ENERGIZE" rave posters.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 15 May 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Fantastic episode! Really good use of 45 minute format as well, really terrific characterisation, esp from Doctor and Rose, and properly sci fi plot as well. Little bit more about Timelord's former role, their status above merely being part of the time stream etc. Doctor's decision to not condemn Rose's Dad for a second time, to save ordinary people because he admires, or at least thoroughly respects, them, to indulge Rose's wish to see her father in the first place - all very significant in my book. Note that he wasn't around after the TARDIS ploy had failed, avoiding the conflict of him choosing to Mr Tyler that the car was for him.

h., Sunday, 15 May 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

God, I almost cried at this episode. Heaven help me when I have children.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 15 May 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

torrent link plz dp

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 15 May 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

yeah anyone got an xvid torrent?

CURSE YOU MPAA

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Sunday, 15 May 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

also curse you SciFi channel for not picking it up, I would have just watched, you know

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 15 May 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Paraphrasing here but, Rose had a line where she mentioned something to the Doctor about giving Mickey Jr a lifelong 'mother hen' or 'mother chicken' impression. Hmmm.

mzui (mzui), Sunday, 15 May 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

so anyway, season 4 - Jack is persona non grata! OMG he will go and visit bleddy Kim

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

argh, spoilers!

how have you not seen this yet koogs? apollo jeez.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

I think I'll be bored of Billie by Series 3.

I am going to moderate all 24 talk into nonexistence.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

Billie's best moment of the whole series was that 'looking drunk and laughing' expression during her second question on The Weakest Link. She's fried gold.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

> how have you not seen this yet koogs?

in a not subscribing to sky tv kind of way. don't worry, i'll have forgotten by the time it gets on proper tv.

yes, avoid the dr who speculation thread, the spoilers on there are like lasers.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

i don't think it's going to be on terrestrial TV ever is it? Considering Sky are halfway through season 4 as it is...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Bauer wins because he doesn't have bits of garlic hanging off his head.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 17 June 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Hey dudes! It's a shame we're all older than 15:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/bluepeter/show/win/index_doctorwho.shtml

But, hey good idea for posters with kids!

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know if that really is Michael Palin providing the voice of the Cyberman from the Tenth Planet clip entitled 'We are Cybermen'?

Nah, it's Roy "Zippy" Skelton. I'll admit the similarity is quite astonishing, though.
"You call them eeeeeeeeeeeeemotions, do you nooooooot?"

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

i don't think I realized quite how much I enjoyed this series until it was over and I realized I have to wait five months for another one.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/304/drwho5vm.jpg

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

I hope he doesn't wear that coat all the time

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

he looks good but I still don't like him, yet

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

And sarah Jane Smith is back!

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

official? where?

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

oh, saw that now. And Giles from Buffy!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, SJS back can only mean...the return of K9!

JimD (JimD), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh hell yes, love that get-up.

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

He looks a bit indie, doesn't he? He looks like he'd post twee relationship problem questions to ilx.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

Maybe he's Logged Out!

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

trench coat = bad

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

Actually, the more I look at his hair in that photo, the more I'm thinking of John Leslie.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4714061.stm

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh dear. Oh dear indeed. He reminds me of someone, but I can't exactly think who. Chuck Taylors. On Dr. Who. That is so wrong.

It Is What A Man Does Which Demeans Him, Not What Is Done To Him (kate), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

I have spent the days in my sickbed, surprising enough, watching mainly Who. I was surprised on Sunday by just how bloody good K9 & Company actually was, a sort of Wicker Man-lite. Erm... with a robot dog.

Also, the DVD release of Revelation of the Daleks is very, very good.

I might be back at work tomorrow, so i think I will try and watch atleast half of The Key To Time today.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

On that Blue Peter site they have a scariest monster from series one vote. The Empty Child is walking it. The Moxx Of Balhoun WAS NEVER SCARY. OR MEANT TO BE.

Where is the Face Of Boe?

I can put up with Tennant in that get up, but NO BADGES.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

I reckon he'll do a lot of spinning around in that trench coat.

I think he looks cool.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

he'd better only wear that coat when it's cold otherwise he's going to look like he smells as bad as Tom Baker

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

That looks like a long version of the jacket I had on at the weekend. Which got all manky in the rain. You'd think, being from Paisley, he'd know better.

WHERE'S THE KILT?!?!?!?!

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

I was struck this afternoon that Rab Nesbitt wore a pinstripe suit and daps too. A bit too unshaven, and the good Doctor could look like he's been sharing the bins round the back of Naveed's with Pete The Jaikie.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Dr. Who in a kilt... would they really make all my dreams come true?

It Is What A Man Does Which Demeans Him, Not What Is Done To Him (kate), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
HOW COME NOBODY HAS YET BROUGHT UP THE CAPTAIN JACK FIGHTING/FUCKING ALIENS SPINOFF SERIES THAT HAS BEEN JUST ANNOUNCED???

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

Because they've been talking about it on Teh Livejournal/Freaky Trigger.

Anyway: more Captain Jack = good thing, obviously.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Because it was discussed on the other thread?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Dr Who New Series 2005 Part 3 - The Final Episode!

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

I got told. Didn't see it anywhere on the 'New Answers'.

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
Easter Sunday:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/31/dr_who_bandwagon_rolls/

Ed (dali), Friday, 31 March 2006 08:48 (twenty years ago)

Oh god! Whose house can I come round and watch this at?

Or do I cave in and buy a television just for this event?

Coffee, Pizza and Boris Johnson Playing In My Smoke Free Living Room, Pls (kate), Friday, 31 March 2006 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Fuck's sake, 15th April is NOT Easter Saturday, people! It's Holy/Silent Saturday, Easter Saturday is a week later.

Grr.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 31 March 2006 09:02 (twenty years ago)

I love it when AF gets into his whole Ecclesiastical Calendar Rockism trip.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 31 March 2006 09:16 (twenty years ago)

The register don't appear to get the 'dalek bread' gag.

JimD (JimD), Friday, 31 March 2006 09:54 (twenty years ago)

Andrew, I feel your pain. Some People laugh at me because I know when Spy Wednesday is.

Of course I will be in stupid Scotland at my stupid brother's stupid wedding that weekend, and so will not see it. Thank heavens for Sky Plus.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 31 March 2006 10:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm particularly touchy on this because Easter Saturday = I'm probably settled in back at home, whereas Holy Saturday = I'm still packing my worldly possessions.

Your brother should have a themed wedding, clearly, accentmonkey (and say hello for me!).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 31 March 2006 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Are you moving back to Ireland, or just moving house?

Ed (dali), Friday, 31 March 2006 10:38 (twenty years ago)

omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg

i am looking forward to this a littel bit. kate if i am at home you're more'n welcome to come round... oh i just realised that's the day my cousin and his gf arrive. oh well, if they get into london any later than 6 they just won't be able to be picked up, is all.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 31 March 2006 10:53 (twenty years ago)

What Ed said. What is happening in world of YMF?

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Don't know quite yet. Should know by early next week.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

bbc 4 showing The Green Death* over the next three nights (19:10 - 20:00):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=today&filename=20060403/20060403_1910_4544_49828_50

* the one with the maggots.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 3 April 2006 08:57 (twenty years ago)

eighteen years pass...

pgwp and his son, both new to Who, watched the first Gatwa run and hopped back to try "Rose".

It was OK - a little goofy, bad special effects, and just generally... dumber than I expected it to be.

I appreciate everyone’s advice. Apparently my son has been doing his own research and I’m letting him lead the way - so we are back to the Eccleston season as he wants to see it how it transitions into the Tennant era, which his internetting tells him is a great era.

I won’t bog this thread down with our entire watch but we are now three eps into Eccleston. We just watched “The Unquiet Dead.” When we saw a few advance scenes of this ep I said “oh this looks like it will be a creepy one like 73 Yards.” He says, without missing a beat, “yeah but remember this show is really old so it will be creepy like Indiana Jones, so it will probably actually just be funny.”

Anyway, I know my perspective is severely limited but yeesh, Eccleston does not hold a candle to Gatwa (and Rose does not hold a candle to Ruby either). Also I feel like I’m picking up on a subtle romantic tension between them which I am finding very creepy.

more to come, hopefully!

bae (sic), Sunday, 30 June 2024 18:13 (one year ago)


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