So I'd like to go to Quebec.

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I'm planning around late July/early August to go (I'll have the vacation time by then) with a friend of mine. So naturally, I'd like to hear from some people with, you know, culture and taste to figure out what the hell I can fill my time with:

1) What are some of the better small/budget hotels in the city? Something along the lines of the Bentley in NYC, or smaller. Something with private bathrooms.

2) Where should I eat/drink? Chez La Mere Michel, La Menara, La Binerie Mont-Royal, and Le Cheval Blanc all sound pretty awesome for Montreal, but is there anything else to really go investigate? Where's the best (or at least best for the money) haute cuisine at?

3) What is there between Montreal/Quebec City of note? Hell, what's there of no note? I'll take a dude who's covered his car in buttons.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

The Laurentides are quite nice. Sort of the Canadian Catskills at one time.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Definitily take the train to Quebec city from Montreal - if you could wait to take your holiday til sept/oct you would see an amazing show of fall foliage bright colors on all the maple trees and the train is very posh (but not terribly expensive). Quebec city is very fun too quaint cobblestone narrow streets, go for cocktails at the Le Chateau Frontenac hotel in the old city. Incidentally Quebec city is one of I think only 8 or 9? "walled cities" that still exist in the world. Have fun!

Wiggy (Wiggy), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Definitely take the train to Quebec city from Montreal - if you could wait to take your holiday til sept/oct you would see an amazing show of fall foliage; bright colors on all the maple trees and the train is very posh (but not terribly expensive). Quebec city is very fun too... quaint cobblestone narrow streets, etc. go for cocktails at the Le Chateau Frontenac hotel in the old city. Incidentally, Quebec city is one of I think only 8 or 9? "walled cities" that still exist in the world. Have fun!

Wiggy (Wiggy), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

damn - can somebody fix my double post - tried to catch it to fix spelling mistake. sorry.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

There are few cities I regret missing on my 2002 road trip.. Quebec City was one of them.. possibly the top one. But it was out of my way, as I had to go to Boston the day after Montreal.

(The other cities I regret missing are Charleston, SC and Savannah, GA)

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

so you're coming to Montreal then?

i can tell you lots of things to do. and especially lots of great places to EAT (i'm a food critic). i'm working now but i'll come back to this thread when i have some moments to spare...

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

2) In Montreal, visit Saint Viateur bagels or Fairmount Bagels and stock up for the trip. The bagels and lox will blow your mind.

3) The trip along the 20 is kinda boring. Stay in the right hand lane unless passing, sneak a peak at the river when you can. The 40 seems more interesting. I do love the train between the two cities. I've never actually taken the train into Quebec, the one I used to take goes through Charny even when they had that big accident on the south tracks a few years back.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

>>i can tell you lots of things to do. and especially lots of great places to EAT (i'm a food critic). i'm working now but i'll come back to this thread when i have some moments to spare...

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Rargh. Sorry. My attempt at USENET style quoting went awry. There's a "You're officially the greatest person who's ever lived" that's supposed to be following that, hah.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

how sweet!

so there's LOTS to eat here. whaddya like? and what price range are you looking at?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I like pretty much everything. I mean, there's certain things I'm not wholly interested in having when I go there because chances are I can come across it rather easily back home in CT/NY/MA (Brazilian, Portuguese, Caribbean, Italian) or its simply not a specialty of the area (I like BBQ...when I'm in Texas or the Carolinas, for instance). What I'm looking more for anything is:

1) Haute. It does not exist anywhere within 2 hours of me. I want to eat some at least 2-3 times.

2) Really good Traditional (or even modern) French. Even if I just treat myself once, that's better than having to go to NYC or Boston and spending a bazillion dollars on something there.

3) North African. I know its not France, but I would assume that there is some decent Moroccan/Algerian stuff there. Right? Maybe?

Some minor notes: Neither I or my friend are vegetarians, though we're not adverse to eating vegetarian food. My friend has an odd phobia of not eating meat that is attatched to a bone (T-Bones are okay, but not ribs or buffalo wings, for instance), but I don't think that'll make a huge difference.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Modern Quebecois Cuisine: Poutine and St Hubert's hot chicken sandwish served with Sleman's Cream Ale.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

Oh, price range. Sorry. Maybe one expensive meal ($50 a person type deal) and the rest we want to keep on a fairly reasonable level ($20 a person or less), with the occasional fast food stop. I've read about how apparently roadside carts are where to get poutine, so I'm gonna test that.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

God I want some ST Hubert's, they closed all the ones in Toronto it seems.

Was the special St Hubert beer just Blanche de Chambly and Fin du Monde mixed together?

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

oh man, so many to choose from!

where to start, where to start.

let's begin with au pied de cochon, one of the most talked-about new restaurants in town; this place sounds like it fits your description to a T. haute-ish, playful, very quebecois. my friends have a great review of it up on their food blog here (as well as a lot of other good montreal recommendations).

there's also les chèvres, another buzzed-about place; the emphasis here is on vegetables and they've become quite famous for their tasting menu. the desserts are quite celebrated as well (and i can vouch for them cuz i know two people who've worked in the pastry kitchen).

for more straight-up french try leméac on laurier (it's an especially great deal if you go after 10pm, where entrée+main course is only $20. best deal in town). all-around great french. also well-loved is au petit extra, on ontario.

hmm... what else what else? i'll get back to you soon...

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

I had the best poutine I've ever had when I was in Quebec city. Had peas and chicken in it but can't recall the name of the place right now.

You should go for a drink dans le Château Frontenac when (if) in you're in QC.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

ok i'm trying to avoid work now so i'm going to try and do my FAVOURITE RESTAURANTS IN VARIOUS CUISINES AND STUFF of montreal. i don't have addresses/phone numbers on hand but they should all be googlable. and a lot of them i've reviewed, so put the name + my username (the one in brackets) into google & you should find my articles, which always have all the pertinent info at the bottom or top.

ahem.

more FRENCH: l'express on st-denis and laloux on des pins are both locally beloved french joints with good food and charming ambience. and not toooo expensive, i don't think.

for BRUNCH, do not miss a chance to visit the lovely le figaro/croissanterie, on the corner of fairmount and hutchison. beautiful neighbourhood, beautiful terrasse, gilded viennese-style interior. don't miss the special bonjour, which is a buttery croissant split in half, toasted, and topped with scrambled eggs, ham, spinach, and melted cheese. DELISH!

if you're in old montreal i like BRASSERIE HOLDER, on mcgill. it's a really nice big & friendly newish brasserie with a good menu. the clams with white wine sauce are the yum.

there's a lot of great indian places in town that are mostly of the "best-kept-secret" variety. which largely means they're likely to be out of your way. however, if you do find yourself in the park-ex neighbourhood, try MALHI SWEETS, my favourite indian resto, and/or BOMBAY MAHAL. both super-cheap and great. TABAQ is a pakistani place in an old diner; it still has diner booths and a long counter! which is fun.

for chinese: in downtown chinatown there's a great place (at st-laurent & de la gauchetiere) called NIU KEE. northern chinese cuisine, super-super-super-spicy and very taste. try the kung pow chicken and the eggplant. for more straight-up chinese i also like FUNG SHING, just up the block. it's got pink curtains and is kinda dim inside. further uptown is SOY, a pan-asian fancy place with really good food.

for japanese, i like the latin quarter's mikado, on lower st-denis (not to be confused with the inferior mikado on laurier). best sushi in town.

IRANIAN - restaurant tehran, on the westmount/ndg border. you may not find yourself in either of these neighbourhoods, but this place, while really plain-looking and too big, is a winner.

KOREAN - hwang kum (and this other place i'm trying today which i've heard is excellent--perhaps it'll be a favourite too--i'll report back later). anyway hwang kum is in NDG too. great korean bbq and bibimbap.

that's all for now! i'll keep thinking...

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

oh and i forgot one of my favourite restaurants, a spanish place run by friends of mine who also run the whole casa del popolo/sala rossa empire: la sala rosa, on st-laurent just below st-joseph. amazing fresh tapas in a boozy convivial atmosphere. shows upstairs and across the street. inexpensive and great!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

i love food

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

This is the point in the thread where I reiterate how awesome s1ocki is.

Okay...another question: I would like, at some point, to go out in Montreal (I'll probably go to a jazz club in QC), and my preference is either rock/metal or urban/hiphop. My friend Will isn't feeling house/trance/etc, so those are basically the two choices. What place is bumping the most?

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Thanks s1ocki, your timing is right — I'll be in Mtl. before and after FIMAV and looking to eat amazing things.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

alan, it depends what night you wanna go out!

glad you guys are finding this helpful. i went way overboard didn't i.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

You should go to Quebec during the music festival if you can, it's great.

Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

I want to go to Quebec and hang out with Sl'sky and drown my troubles in poutine. Or maybe not that last part.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

I've only had poutine once, and it was YARRRGHHH AWFUL. Are the cheese curds really supposed to have zero flavor?

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

they must SQUEAK

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm okay with SQUEAKY, but they also have to be TASTY.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh gosh, I want to emigrate to Quebec -- not that I'll be able to afford to, but oh well.

That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

ok BESTPOUTINEINMTL90GRAMSOFFATGO!

chez clo (claudine) on laurier near st-denis is a champ of a place, with what a lot of people consider the town's best. also open 24 hrs and offering a wide variety of poutine variations. "the classic"

the main on st-laurent, also open almost 24 hrs or 24 hrs depending on the night, also very "classic," you can get it with a really good smoked meat sandwich (almost as good and sometimes better than the legendary schwartz's across the street)

patati patata: the vegeterian option, served in potato nest with green peppers and mushrooms and onions and thin-cut fries. the activist poutine, if you will.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

s1ocki: Either a Friday or Saturday night, which I'm sure means that every club will be packed with humanity.

Maria: I'd love to, but the timing isn't in the cards. I remember Supersilent being there a couple years back, and I'd practically kill well loved members of my own family to go see them. Still couldn't make it. Additionally, that week has already been well requested at work. Isn't happening.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

for such a simple dish, there are so many great variations.

i'm also a great one for the heretical (grated cheese!) version offered by mamma's pizza on des pins. and louigi's in old montreal serves a fucking solid pout as well.

for your chain-store poutines, lafleur is probably the best. the get the fries so right--baked then fried as they should be. booyakasha.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

(xp)

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

poutine at the main at the end of a night on the town = the real deal

jones (actual), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

Flying to QC in a coupla sundays for a drive to Lac Megantic for work. Never been east of Ontario, much less this deep into French Canadia, so this ought to be interesting.

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 05:33 (fourteen years ago)

sometimes i forget how fuckin' enormous quebec is. i mean look at this shit.

http://sht.tl/Bf1k

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 05:58 (fourteen years ago)

Gotta go up and reclaim a lake and call it Slacki

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 06:00 (fourteen years ago)

Quebec is hueg. i'm half afraid of it.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 06:25 (fourteen years ago)

so much frozen north

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 06:26 (fourteen years ago)

The "frozen" part is easy, it's the spring blackflies that will kill you

...options. (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 09:31 (fourteen years ago)

sometimes i forget how fuckin' enormous quebec is

and how porous

flopson, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 14:19 (fourteen years ago)

i have a friend who spent a lot of time working/living in cree communities wayyyyyyy up north. fly-in communities they're called, because no roads go there. u gotta fly.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 14:43 (fourteen years ago)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376942_10150944055235243_903350242_21602804_705067809_n.jpg

u all wish u lived here

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

proof of distinct society

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

distinctly delicious!

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

i dream of montreal

max, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)


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