This really requires beatings, DEMANDS it. As the drink/snack place nearest the library sold and sells regular 100% etc. orange juice of various brands, the concept of 'light orange juice,' when these bottles first appeared a few weeks ago, confused us greatly. Especially when advertised as having only 50% juice.
In talking with friends over the weekend about this, though, Stripey said to friend Kathy, who works a bit with food and nutrition among other things in her physical therapy job, "Wait, regular orange juice is loaded with sugar and carbs, isn't it?" Kathy confirmed this.
In otherwards, an Atkins diet orange juice. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
no shit. This makes me angry. When did orange juice become more valuable per ounce than gold? You could drink $20 worth of orange juice in a crappy little diner if you're not careful.
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
OTM.
Ned, you are a California orange rockist!!
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)
"eat the fruit, don't drink the juice".
is that what sexuologists say as well? har har
― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
I think people are overreacting to the sugar levels in orange juice a tad.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)
Shit, I'm going to go get a can of orange juice right now.
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
ive had some atkins orange-pinapple juice and its the grossest thing ever. Its all gummy-textured. just not right.
― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)
― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
I only ever drink fruit juice on special occasions... like weekends.
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
― jones (actual), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
According to this table, oranges have an index of 35, whereas the juice has an index of up to 65. Freshly pressed stuff is only 40 though, so there you go Ned, keep chugging it down. As a rule, I wholeheartedly detest the diet industry and fad diets, but unusually the GI thing actually seems based in proper science.
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)
That's complicated.
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
"Consumers began to lose faith in the product, particularly when a little girl turned orange having drunk large quantities of it.
"The negative publicity which surrounded this story was not helped by a badly-timed Sunny Delight ad showing a snowman turning orange.
"James Griffiths, a director of the advertising firm Saatchi and Saatchi which was responsible for the ad, admits that the timing was unfortunate."
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
how do i know that? i don't, i just made it all up. doesn't stop me thinking that though.
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)
I once read a recommendation that people wanting more fiber in their diets should eat a paper napkin.
― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
So if all they're really doing is watering it down, that's really not a bad idea -- even if it just means you get to drink a bigger, more refreshing amount. Just lightening up on the sugar spike, and the calories -- and the acidity, actually, which kind of keeps us from drinking as much juice as we do other things.
― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)
― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
Sunny Delight does not need to be chilled. Cheap and surprisingly edible lunch foods DO need to be chilled.
FUCK YOU, Sony, McDonalds, Microsoft or whoever the fuck owns this shit.
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
― Nellie (nellskies), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
― brianiac (briania), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
When I wasn't drinking tons and tons of orange juice, I was drinking tons and tons of grape juice. Just reading that made me crave a gigantic tumbler of grape juice. Yum.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)
That being said, it's just plain stupid to be all "gee, I don't know, too much OJ is sorta risky, dudez" and then go out for a night of boozing, you know?
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)
Also, puppies.
Actually, I've been drinking OJ as my primary beverage for the last week or so (averaging .75 gallons a day) and I'm sorta getting sick of it.
This mimosa, however, is excellent.
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
― pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)
(and by recently I mean yesterday)
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)
I made the comment because some people do in fact believe that something labeled 100% fruit juice is automatically "healthy".
I love orange juice, but don't drink it very often.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)
The Splenda-fied aspect sounds pretty iffy. Seriously, though, dudes: fruit juice is just super-packed with sugars. Obviously. And so if you drink it in the giant-portion way that we currently drink stuff -- if you down like 20 ounces of fruit juice in a go -- you genuinely are doing something kind of weird to your body. I mean, I do it all the time, and it's still better than going to town on the soda, but really, that's a giant swing in your blood sugar, and a load of not-really-helpful calories, if you happen to be worried about that.
The idea of just cutting juice with water isn't a bad one -- you could drink a big refreshing amount of it without subjecting yourself to quite as big of a sugar shock. And personally the main thing that keeps me from really slamming the fruit juice is the way it sits in a semi-empty stomach, all acid-churning and uncomfortable digestive sugar-overload and all that; watering down a bit (or just chasing juice with water, really) would make it a lot more enjoyable. Juice is powerful modern stuff! The human body never expected to regularly get dosed with the distilled sugary bits of like ten apples at once!
(Also Ned there's nothing necessarily Atkinsy about this product -- it's just cutting down on the non-food calories, which is the simplest way to lose weight. Drinking a bottle of orange juice between meals isn't so different from eating cookies -- there's no fat, obviously, and the sugars are natural and slightly more nutritive, but it's still just a bunch of calories that aren't really filling your stomach or delivering too much basic nutritive stuff.)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
That was a bit of douchebaggery on my part, sorry.
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)
(also, that was hardly douchebaggery!).
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
Nonsense! NONSENSE! I, and so many other women, don't really need to eat, we're just victims of Big Food and its tempting advertising! Like, I mean, do you KNOW what sort of subliminal imagery they put in those ads?
― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)
Also for the record, I should note that this whole sugar thing is pretty much the only dietary thing that's even on my radar, mostly because I'm really bad about eating nothing but sugary/carby things and going through constant energy/no-energy swings and all that bad stuff. The lack of energy is bad enough, but the real worry is that there are diabetics in my family.
I always pull the "calories are good, most people on the planet don't get enough of them" joke, but seriously, you clearly want to get your calories from actual nutritive foodstuffs like I dunno meat and vegetables and cheese and shit, not from hi-cal beverages and non-nutritive snacks and shit.
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)
Like, do you KNOW how good all that sh*t tastes???
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
You aren't?
― The Ghost of There Goes My Buffet (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
Rest assured you were in fact un-recommending them.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)
I have to worry about sugar intake but generally all I drink is water, a carton of juice will last for weeks in my house UNLESS I'm having a downspike and then it'll be gone in about a day. But generally lasts for weeks, as I haven't had any crashes in a long time.
I think the main problem, with juices or really any other beverage that isn't water, is that people generally SUBSTITUTE these beverages for their recommended water intake, which is why they pose a problem. If you're having one 20 oz glass of orange juice, even daily, this isn't a big deal. If you're having 8 8oz servings (or whatever the required amount of water per day is these days) of juice, soda, red bull, coffee, fill-in-the-blank-beverages-people-down-instead-of-having-a-glass-of-water, that's what the actual problem is.
Making things "light" does not solve this problem and ultimately helps few people: see also the whole Snackwell's etc cottage industry which has pretty much statistically been proven to be WORSE than just regular bloody old fashioned snacks (ie the whole "Well I can continue having just as much of this as I want because it's LIGHT" phenomenon).
I think such products should be outlawed and people thrown into nutrition boot camps but that's just me.
― Allyzay is not appropriate for freedom (allyzay), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)
(I initially parsed that as if it was a variation of "Who's your daddy?")
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)
*yeah yeah, i know, its a gross misrepresentation of whats been said on this thread...
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)
My sis in law eats ridiculous amounts of fruit - mostly apples - and when you seriously eat like six apples a day I dont think it does your blood glucose much good.
Whats wrong with drinking good plain filtered water? I drink over a litre a day, and despite my horrible regimen of booze and pills my liver and kidneys are in pretty good shape.
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)
― nabiscothingy, Friday, 20 May 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)
― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 20 May 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)
I used to eat about 700 grams of fruit 5 days a week. It was about 50 percent of my diet. Ridiculous, I know, but I love(d) fruit salads so much. Before I rarely ate fruit, so I thought it was much better than my old eating habits. I quickly stopped doing this, realizing it's not so healthy (very one-sided).
My mom is convinced eating fruit after lunch is RRRRREALLY BAD for you. *rolls eyes*
As much as I'd like to agree that canned OJ is worse than fresh OJ - I know it is - I can't help saying it's better than nothing (or fresh OJ). It's recommended in diets for pregnant women, so it can't be *that* bad because you need vitamin C something clear water doesn't contain. That said, I don't drink it that often, probably twice a day because I'm not that keen on OJ, especially the pulpy stuff. YUCK.
― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Friday, 20 May 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)