What impressions did you have of the presidents when you were growing up? (or other politicians)

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I don't remember Carter being president, but I do remember a huge (or at least huge to me then) campaign yard sign my dad had of him in our tool shed. I thought he must have been one of the greatest men ever to serve our country. My Dad painted quite the pretty picture of him (not literally, ha ha).

When my Dad came home from work, he would always watch the news. I would watch it with him silently. He looked very serious and a bit angry whenever Reagan was on TV, so I also tried to look upset and very very serious. I often confused Reagan with my grandfather and Dan Rather. Also, I didn't understand why he talked about Star Wars all the time.

When Reagan ran for his second term, I figured out my parents were probably not going to vote for him. But when I said something to my best friend's parents about it, I got in a lot of trouble. My parents sat me down for the first serious talk I can ever remember and told me that who they voted for was a family secret and I couldn't tell my friends parents or even my best friend. Apparently, we lived in a very conservative neighborhood.

I started to get really interested in politics around 1988 and had a lot of faith in Michael Dukakis. A lot of stuff was going on at home, so I remember staying up into the wee hours watching TV by myself downstairs until it was announced that George Bush won. I was devastated. Most of what I remember about his presidency was wrapped up in Saturday Night Live impersonations.

I got really excited about Bill Clinton. He reminded me a lot of my Dad. I thought he and Hillary were the most amazing couple. I'll never forget when he won the election and they blasted Don't Stop Thinking about Tomorrow. I was so happy and hopeful about the future of our country.

I try to forget everything that happened after that.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

I thght Raegan looked a bit dorky. But then again I didn't really see that much of American Presidents. But still more than our own king, who was quite boring.

nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

i got that lecture too, sarah. i asked my third grade teacher who she was voting for, and bam! even after "the talk," i was still pretty confused as to how i had created such a shitstorm.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

All I can remember from my childhood is "Margaret Thatcher, Baby Snatcher!"

My childhood impression was that she was pure evil. While Reagan was just a functional idiot.

The Square Root Of Negative Two (kate), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

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I remember my parents telling me the same thing. They were never all that secretive - i think they were just ashamed of having voted for Mulroney (sorry dad - secret's out)!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

They was white!

LeCoq (LeCoq), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Well in America, my parents couldn't vote. In the UK, they were Champagne Socialists and made a big deal about voting for Jimmy Callahan or whoever. Sigh.

The Square Root Of Negative Two (kate), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

OMG - HOW'D YOU KNOW!?

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Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm not talking about your parents!

LeCoq (LeCoq), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

When Bush Sr. was running for president, I thought it was pretty self-evident that he should be elected, because he had been vice president and hence had the most experience.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

I remember, as a kid, reading this sort of magazine where Finnish school children could write anything they wanted. One child, who I think was 8, wrote: "I think Gorbachev should be shot to the moon, and Reagan could just get off to a knitting club!". I agreed. That kid had gotten the hang of it early on.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

I don't really remember anything about Bush the Elder up until the Persian Gulf War (which I remember vividly because my father and I would meet up with my mother for lunch at a sandwich shop and CNN was always on) and I'm not really sure what I thought of him other than that he was silly for having a guy that vice-prez who couldn't spell "potatoes". Clinton was pretty exciting and fresh, and later on during the whole Monica Lewinsky scandal my classmates would often joke that he was a pimp. Dubya made me royally pissed and I think that's where I became really political. Actually, no, I was pretty pissed when his brother Jeb tried to run for governor in 1994 and was baffled when he won in 1998.

Ian Riese-Moraine's all but an ark-lark! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

I was pleased to find out that Reagan and I had the same birthday, until my family pointed out sternly that they were democrats. My first memories involving politics are around that time, of Reagan during the 1984 election campaign, pausing and smiling before his speech to accept the crowd's (lengthy) applause, while my grandfather sat at the kitchen table muttering invectives against republicans.

In 1988 my middle school had its own mock-election where everyone learned about the voting process and got to vote for president in curtained booths with levers that you pulled--the class went republican in almost a direct reflection of the polls at the time and I was very disappointed since I liked Dukakis although I found his eyebrows strange.

sgs (sgs), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

All I can remember from my childhood is "Margaret Thatcher, Baby Snatcher!"

Don't remember Margaret Thatcher stealing babies! Milk maybe! (Although not in Scotland)... Did she really?

KeefW (kmw), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

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All I can remember from my childhood is "Margaret Thatcher, Baby Snatcher!"

I think you'll find that the cry was "maragret Thatcher, milk snatcher", because she stopped the provision of free milk to all school children (we used to get a third of a pint of milk in a glass milkbottle at morning break).

andyjack (andyjack), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

I'd have been happy for her to snatch my milk. I hated getting milk at primary school.

KeefW (kmw), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

My memories of it aren't all good either. I remember hating it when it had frozen and it tasted really horrid but we still had to have it. Plus of course every now and again someone dropped a bottle so there would be a mess to clear up, possibly somebody cut by the glass, and a horrid smell afterwards. However, I will not admit that it was a good thing to take it away, on the grounds that I will not admit that she did anything remotely good.

Related, but not really ... why does the USA have such a strange way of getting its citizens to cast their vote, using levers and machines and even, I understand, computers. Surely the UK system of putting a cross on a bit of paper next to the candidates name is simpler and would avoid things like "hanging chads", as well as having a physical record of the votes cast. Putting a cross on a bit of paper may not be technically advanced, but it works.

andyjack (andyjack), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

growing up in north london, liberal politics was the excepted and open norm. The thought of encountering a conservative invaded our nightmares, and truth be told, around my area meeting freddie was more likely.
I think the chant was 'Maggie Thatcher, Milk snatcher' which I knew was about free kids milk, we got it anyway so I always thought it was a bit weird to get so het up about it. I was dragged along to all the CND marches as a kid, and found them mostly tiring.
Thatcher did allways seem really evil, but the early 80s was a frightening time so she was only one of many things to be afraid of. Regan I always thought was kind of funny, i always wondered why he talked in such a weird way, like he had cotton wool down his larynx. By the time of Bush 1 my borrowed political understandings were pretty well fleshed out, although I must admit to really enjoying desert storm. It was just so pretty.

lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Octagonal orange plastic crates full of triangular pyramid cartons of warm milk. I had that memory well repressed until I read this page :-(

Only childhood political memory: someone telling the teacher I said "Margaret Thatcher is an evil bitch" in the playground and me getting the belt for swearing.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Omino, yeah it was these pyramid cartons that scared me. This was in Cumbernauld... Other places had bottles when I got older. I remember sticking the straw in one and in explicably went bananas and squirted milk all over me. This wasn't much cop in the summer when it started to smell pretty bad.

One funny memory was during the 1984 miners' strike when this teacher asked if anyone's father was a miner. One guy stuck his hand up. The teacher asked if he was on strike, and when he said 'no', the teacher asked if he was a scab!

KeefW (kmw), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Somehow, teachers never seem to be the right people to be in charge of (? overseeing?) the development of the minds and personalities of young people (or even children, since that's what we/they are at first) do they, but who else could or would do that job?

andyjack (andyjack), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

This isn't politically related, but I once had a teacher early on in grade school ask us to raise our hands if our parents weren't divorced yet. Then she congratulated those of us that came from stable families.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

What a swine, Sarah.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

That's fucked up! You should have raised a finger.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

xposts Why do teachers do shit like that. Luckily none of them ever pointed out the fact I was the only kid being raised by a single mom since I was in high school before I met anyone else who only had the one parent.

This isn't really comparable but politically-related...I recall my 4th grade teacher telling us all about how evil the USSR was, and how they had no toilet paper etc, and then when I repeated said facts to my mom, she tried to disabuse me of the notions by claiming she'd rather live there and she just might make up her mind for us to move to the soviet union. I also remember in 6th grade, my social studies/language arts teacher telling us all about the "good" Sunni muslims and the "bad" shi-ite muslims in Iraq. I think I was old enough to know not to trust teachers by then.

sgs (sgs), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

I know 5 people who have become teachers (in Canada). 3 taught english overseas (because they we incapable of finding work here), came back and taught here. One was doing security work (after dropping out of 2 University programs) until his mom got him work supply teaching. The last actually wanted to teach and works at the very high school her and I went to.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

They are all my friends - but 4 of 5 of my teacher friends are pretty much useless. 2 of them being bat shit crazy and should not be within 10 yards of any childrens' minds.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

My fifth grade teacher, a secret drunk and an evangelical idiot, so ludicrously slandered the British when he was teaching us about the Revolution that I, who was reading Churchill's History of the English-Speaking Peoples called him on it. He was less than pleased but the class learned to distrust him.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

i can only really remember from about 1990, when i was ten, and the tory leadership fite, and then of course the gulf war. but that said, i somehow knew a fair amount about thatcher before this, presumably because she was as 'big' a figure in the life of the world as madonna or princess diana.
i remember being called 'so labour' during the 1992 election. it probably wasn't even true, but i was at posh school.

N_RQ, Friday, 3 June 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

I, who was reading Churchill's History of the English-Speaking Peoples

At age 10?!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I remember my parents telling me the same thing. They were never all that secretive - i think they were just ashamed of having voted for Mulroney (sorry dad - secret's out)!

Mine too! I think that's the only time my dad ever voted PC (provincial or federal). He tries to forget it.

I don't remember Trudeau in power at all, strangely enough. I remember sitting with my Grandma the night Mulroney won (the first) time and she explained that he was the new PM. I was ten, and I thought he looked really dapper.

But even at that age, and knowing nothing about politics until I was about twelve, I always thought John Turner was a dink. But so did the rest of Canada.

I always felt a bit bad for Kim Campbell, you know, the way she led the PC's to their worst political defeat ever and ruined the federal conservative moment in Canada for over a decade. That's a lot of baggage to carry around.

I didn't like Cretien in the beginning, but I grew to like him over time. When I've long forgotten any and all political decisions he made as PM, I'll still remember that choking incident.

Paul Martin gets a worse rap than he deserves. I wouldn't want to watch a ball game with him, but I trust him to run the country. (with George Bush, it's the opposite!)

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I always felt a bit bad for Kim Campbell, you know, the way she led the PC's to their worst political defeat ever and ruined the federal conservative moment in Canada for over a decade. That's a lot of baggage to carry around.

Well she did technically "lead" the PC's to their worst defeat ever (those ads zooming in on Cretien's face was probably the worst of it) - BUT the "worst defeat ever" is more Mulroney's fault what with the free trade and GS-motherfucking-T. And fact is she was Canada's 1st (and worst) female PM ever. Some alright baggage to have there.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I can vaguely remember the day Nixon resigned. It was really hot that day and my family was at my grandmothers. I remember them being around the TV watching the coverage. Coincidentally I was also at my grandmothers the day Elvis died, which I remember quite well as my aunt was really broken up about him dying.

earlnash, Friday, 3 June 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

my dad LOVED reagan, so when we had a mock election in kindergarten, of course i voted for reagan, because my daddy liked reagan. i think reagan won the kindergarten vote in 1980.

when he got shot, there were stories of people sending him big jars of jellybeans because he really liked jellybeans. i thought that was cool because i really liked jellybeans too. they tried to get us to write him letters, but i don't think i did.

my opinion of reagan's presidency is a bit different now.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I remember people going on about how funny it was that Carter was peanut farmer. It wasn't *that* funny.

I remember thinking Reagan was the antichrist.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I recall my 4th grade teacher telling us all about how evil the USSR was, and how they had no toilet paper etc, and then when I repeated said facts to my mom, she tried to disabuse me of the notions by claiming she'd rather live there and she just might make up her mind for us to move to the soviet union.

Childhood beliefs about Russians

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Reagan was an extraordinary presence for a 5 yr-old to assimilate. He was elected for his first term when i started the first grade, so by the time of my 8th grade graduation I felt like your grandparents who'd grown up with FDR. When Carter and Mondale went up against him, I thought, "These men are so ugly. Of COURSE they're going to lose."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember ever hating Reagan or anything -- he seemed like a genial, if somewhat batty, old man -- but my first memory of a presidential election is of telling people in my first-grade class that I wanted Mondale to win. I was more determined in my support of Dukakis four years later, but I still hadn't really thought any of it through or anything, I was probably just echoing my parents. I guess I did like that he was the underdog. But I also thought it was really cool that when Bush Sr. campaigned in our town, my friend George got to shake his hand.

Only in 1992 was I able to justify what I didn't like about the Republicans -- they all seemed old and out of touch -- and this made Clinton especially attractive to me. Here was a man who was in his 40s (young!), who was shaped by the civil-rights movement and Vietnam, and who understood basic principles of tolerance. I loved that he promoted so many women and minorities to his cabinet. I thought, finally we have a president who gets it. My journal entry on the day after he was elected contained the phrase "dawn of a new era." And after he was inaugurated, I bragged to all my conservative friends about how long he'd been in office ("it's been 13 days and 5 hours now!").

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 June 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

We had a mock election in first grade for the 1980 election. The teacher made us put our heads down on our desks and raise our hands when she called out our candidate's name. Of course, I was peeking the whole time and was shocked to see my best friend vote for Reagan. I voted for Carter because I was worried that Reagan would lead us to a nuclear war.

The guy who ate dog biscuits and had to sit in a special desk voted for John Anderson.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 3 June 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)


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