Chelsea: So much money they dont give a damn about rules?

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Spurs have suspended sporting director Frank Arnesen after they revealed Chelsea made an approach to the Dane without their permission.
Arnesen says he wants to move to Chelsea, and Spurs have confirmed they are taking legal advice on the matter.
Spurs said on the club's website www.spurs.co.uk that the approach was made "in direct breach of FAPL rules.
"This approach was made both prior to requesting permission and without permission from the club."
The row over Arnesen comes only days after Chelsea were fined £300,000 and handed a suspended three-point deduction by Premier League officials for their role in an illegal meeting with Arsenal full-back Ashley Cole.

This is a bolt from nowhere because his partnership with Martin Jol was the team to take us forward.
Tottenham Supporters' Trust spokesman Daniel Wynn
Arnesen arrived at Spurs at the start of last season and was instrumental in appointing Jacques Santini, then his successor Martin Jol.
He is also responsible for masterminding the club's transfer policy.
The Spurs statement added: "Notwithstanding that he is subject to contract and holds wide-ranging responsibilities and commitments to all parties at Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, Frank has indicated that he wishes to move to Chelsea Football Club.
"Accordingly, the board of Tottenham Hotspur plc has suspended Frank Arnesen with immediate effect.
"The club is currently in discussions with its legal advisors and a further announcement will be made in due course."
The Premier League, however, is yet to receive a complaint from Spurs officials about the alleged approach to Arnesen.
"We have not received an official complaint," said Premier League spokesman Dan Johnson. "We await to see the action Tottenham wish to pursue."

Fines obviously do not deter Chelsea.

― redman, Saturday, 4 June 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

DAMN!!!!! :(

As if Mourinho would want to work with a Director of Football anyway!

Frank you fool!

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 4 June 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes I think it's not so much that Chelsea have got so much money that they don't give a fuck about breaking rules, it's more that they deliberately break the rules to give themselves a chance to say to everyone 'look at us - we've got loadsmoney and we can do what we fucking want!'.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Audacity, sheer audacity.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Assuming Spurs report chelsea... and an enquiry finds them guilty , then they will get those 3 points docked that were previously suspended AND a further points penalty.

A fine will not stop Chelsea.

― redman, Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

JUST WHEN IT WAS ALL GOING SO WELL!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm actually really fucked off about this - Arnesen was the big, big plus at Spurs last season. Out of the 20-odd players we signed last season there wasn't a duffer among them (well, maybe Atouba). I had visions of him building a fantastic team from kids two to three seasons down the line. Absolute fucker.

I hope they throw the fucking book at Chelsea and dock as many points as they can.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

And it's the UEFA cup lottery tomorrow as well :(

Oh well, maybe Martin Jol will work better on his own. If he stays. It really feels like the close season now.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Man Utd aren't happy about Chelsea either over that young lad that signed for Man Utd then is trying to get out of it to sign for Chelsea.

What next for chelsea?

― redman, Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

It's just like Star Wars now.

"Frank! You were the choosen one! You were meant to return balance to the Spurs"

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Chelsea poach Peter Crouch.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Chelsea are increasingly becoming bigger than the English game - not only are they winning everything on the field, all transfers, players, and off-the-field matters are being orcastrated by them.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

sp. there.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

It's the gratuitous nature of it that gets me. They don't even want to sign half these people. It's like they're not happy enough with stealing your girlfriend, they want to piss on your bed every night too.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

A good analogy there.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Spurs stunned over Blues approach
Spurs legend Alan Mullery said Chelsea should "face the consequences" if claims of an illegal approach for Tottenham's Frank Arnesen are true.
"Illegal approaches have been happening for years," Mullery told BBC Sport.
"It just goes on and on, and, as far as I know, hundreds of players and staff have been approached in this way.
"I'm sure Chelsea will appeal if any action is taken against them. But if they are found guilty then they should face the consequences."
Daniel Wynn of the Tottenham Supporters' Trust said he was left shocked after hearing the news of Arnesen's suspension after Chelsea's approach for the sporting director.
"I'm as stunned as everyone else," he said.
"It's one step forward and two back with this club at the moment.

"We have a situation at Chelsea where they appear to have the power to destabilise football"- Former Spurs player Gary O'Reilly
"We'd had a much better season and there were signs of improvement.
"When Jacques Santini left in November that was a shock but there had been some mumbling that it could happen. This is a bolt from nowhere.
"It was the team to take us forward. Manager Martin Jol was Arnesen's man and he wanted him all the way through."
Former Tottenham player Gary O'Reilly told BBC Radio Five Live that Chelsea's financial clout is worrying for football.
"This will have very interesting reverberations not only around White Hart Lane, but the whole of football," said O'Reilly.
"What it does indicate, is that we have a situation at Chelsea where they appear to have the power to destabilise football.

"They have enough money to achieve any objective they wish. Maybe bringing in salary caps would help and prevent this from happening.
"It's now up to the Premier League to decide how they want to react.
"They cannot do anything until they find out how Spurs want to react - whether the club think the suspension of Arnesen is enough, or if they want to take the matter further."

I am angry that Chelsea are showing how powerful they are
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― redman, Saturday, 4 June 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/4610893.stm

― redman, Sunday, 5 June 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

And it's the UEFA cup lottery tomorrow as well :(
Oh well, maybe Martin Jol will work better on his own. If he stays. It really feels like the close season now.

-- jel -- (freeduni...), June 4th, 2005.

Tottenham have missed out on a Uefa Cup spot after the Fair Play draw which took place in Manchester on Sunday.

Thats really unlucky. I really feel sorry for Spurs at the moment.

When was the last time Spurs won the league?

― redman, Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

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(we don't need this) fascist contract thang

(look whatta brill drawing of mourinho!!)

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

1961

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

They are gonna do swapsies by the looks of it.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

I agree with the introduction of the Panini transfer system.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I know I've praised Scott Parker to high heaven on these boards in the past but this just gets worse and worse. Chelsea walk in and take Arnesen and then try and chuck two of their least valued players, who have barely kicked a ball in 12 months and are hugely injury prone, in our direction.

I'd like to see Spurs take a stand on this matter. Five points deducted would really fuck Chelsea off and Man Utd might even win the league again.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...

And people think Chelsea are bad. Juve stink.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/european/article363042.ece

― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 11 May 2006 11:12 (twenty years ago)

I was at a book launch yesterday where someone pointed out Mourinho had predicted the toip five this year, and had the book's writer, Gianluca Vialli and Gariele Marcotti, any comments? They said that whilst Mourinho can predict the top five, Moggi decides who is in the top five.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:44 (twenty years ago)

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1773101,00.html

Is that book any good? i've got it next to me but am not sure whether it's worth reading.

― Pete W (peterw), Friday, 12 May 2006 08:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm 4 chapters in, and it's suprisingly good. If you imagine a spectrum between two poles. At one end, you have academic analysis of cross-cultural factors affecting the development of the game and players and stuff like that - looks good, but there's a nagging doubt that they've not really got the 'feel' for football. At the other, you have a footballer's rather turgid and limited analysis which normalises everything they know and have seen as the only way things can be - this is about halfway between, with a slight emphasis on the player side of the spectrum.

he's really trying to grasp things though, and he's done his research; the stuff on weather is very interesting - he points out that the crucial climactic difference between England and Italy is not rain or temperature but wind, which means players can neither hear coaches speak very well, nor want to stand still for any period of time, which leads to English kids being coached through just being told to play football, rather than instilled with techniques through explication.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Sounds good. Better than Martin Peters biography i've also been sent.

Somebody told me about Vialli's take on the weather effect after I was marvelling at the technical skill of Valencia when they played Arsenal. The way they could kill balls that were walloped into feet was so impressive.

― Pete W (peterw), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/5043096.stm

The Obi Mikel saga: gifted Nigerian youngster is tracked by Man Utd who express an interest in signing him when he’s old enough, Kenyon moves from Utd to Chelsea and suddenly Chelsea become interest too, things progress slowly in a murky world of multiple agents all claiming to represent the same player but eventually he signs for Utd in May 2005 and proclaims his delight at this deal at the press conference…

http://www.manutd.is/servicePixies/view.image.php?id=4755

http://nigeriasports.com/uploads/articles/4/1938.jpg

…but then he receives death threats, disappears, and issues a statement that he signed for United under duress (as can be seen clearly by his obvious distress in the pictures above) and that he really wants to sign for Chelsea, his Norwegian club (it’s a complicated story) deny this is the case, Utd ask UEFA to investigate, Kenyon denies that Chelsea have had any contact with Obi Mikel, let alone put pressure on him, a claim which is somewhat undermined by Obi Mikel announcing more or less simultaneously that Chelsea have talked to him a lot and convinced him it’s the right place for him, it becomes increasingly clear that UEFA’s investigation is going to side with Utd, Kenyon starts looking shifty and muttering whenever the subject is brought up in interviews, Chelsea (while denying any wrongdoing) agree to pay Man Utd £12 million to sign Obi Mikel, somewhere an agent is laughing…

http://www.soccerphile.com/soccerphile/news/ranter/john-obi-mikel.html

― Teh HoBBercraft (the pirate king), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

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