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'Lactivists' Taking Their Cause, and Their Babies, to the Streets
By AMY HARMON
New York Times, June 7, 2005
The calls for a "nurse-in" began on the Internet mere moments after Barbara Walters uttered a negative remark about public breast-feeding on her ABC talk show, "The View."

The protest, inspired by similar events organized by a growing group of unlikely activists nationwide in the last year, brought about 200 women to ABC's headquarters yesterday. They stood nursing their babies in the unmistakably public venue of Columbus Avenue and West 67th Street. They held signs reading, "Shame on View," and "Babies are born to be breastfed." Ms. Walters, who remarked a few weeks ago on the show that the sight of a woman breast-feeding on an airplane next to her had made her uncomfortable, said through a spokesman that "it was a particular circumstance and we are surprised that it warrants a protest."

But the rally at ABC is only the most visible example of a recent wave of "lactivism." Prodded by mothers who say they are tired of being asked to adjourn to the bathroom while nursing in a public space, six states have recently passed laws giving a woman the right to breast-feed wherever she "is otherwise authorized to be."

An Ohio bill saying a woman is "entitled to breast-feed her baby in any place of public accommodation" passed last month over the objection of one representative who wanted to exempt businesses from liability for accidents caused by "spillage."

"I really don't know any women who 'spill,' " said Lisa Wilson, the mother of a 4-month-old in Fairview Park, Ohio, who helped organize a nurse-in at a local deli to support the bill.

Representative Carolyn B. Maloney, Democrat of New York, held a nurse-in on the Capitol's Cannon Terrace last month as she reintroduced federal legislation to amend the Civil Rights Act to protect women from employment discrimination for using a breast pump or feeding their babies during breaks.

Nursing mothers are pressuring businesses, too. Burger King has declared that mothers are welcome to nurse. Starbucks - the target of a letter-writing campaign that asked "What's more natural than coffee and milk?" - has, too.

The moves come as the number of American mothers who choose to breast-feed has climbed to about 70 percent in 2003, the last year for which information was available, from about 50 percent in 1990. Many otherwise apolitical women say they found themselves unexpectedly transformed into lactivists after fielding a nasty comment or being asked to stop nursing in public.

"We're all told that breast-feeding is the best, healthiest thing you can do for your child," said Lorig Charkoudian, 32, who started the Web site www.nurseatstarbucks.com after being asked to use the bathroom to nurse at her local Starbucks. "And then we're made to feel ashamed to do it without being locked in our homes."

But Ms. Walters is not the only one who might prefer not to be confronted with breast-feeding at close quarters. Legislators, business owners and family members are debating how to reconcile the health benefits of nursing with the prevailing cultural squeamishness toward nursing in public.

In interviews and Internet discussions, hundreds of women recount being asked to stop nursing in public spots, including the Children's Museum in Huntsville, Ala.; a knitting store in the East Village; a Radisson Hotel lobby in Virginia; a public bus in Los Angeles; and a city commission meeting in Miami Beach.

"It's nothing against breast-feeding, it's about exposing yourself for people who don't want to see it," said Scotty Stroup, the owner of a restaurant in Round Rock, Tex., where a nursing mother was refused service last fall.

But the new generation of lactivists compare discomfort with seeing breast-feeding in public to discomfort with seeing interracial couples or gays holding hands.

"It's like any other prejudice. They have to get used to it," said Rebecca Odes, co-founder of "The New Mom" blog, who attended the ABC protest. "People don't want to see it because they feel uncomfortable with it, and they feel uncomfortable with it because they don't see it."

Whether to breast-feed in public, many nursing mothers say, is not simply a matter of being respectful of another person's sensibilities. They cite research by the Food and Drug Administration showing that the degree of embarrassment a mother feels about breast-feeding plays a bigger role in determining whether she is likely to do so than household income, length of maternity leave or employment status.
The American Academy of Pediatrics urges women to feed their babies only breast milk for the first six months, and continue breast-feeding for at least an additional six months. If its recommendations were followed, the group estimates that Americans would save $3.6 billion in annual health care costs because breast-fed babies tend to require less medical care. But while more women are breast-feeding for the first few weeks, fewer than one-third are still nursing after six months. Some doctors attribute the decline to self-consciousness and the difficulties of finding spaces where nursing seems acceptable.

"To many mothers, breast-feeding runs up against sexual attitudes toward the breast," said Dr. Lawrence Gartner, who leads the academy's research on breast-feeding. "That reduces the prevalence of breast-feeding, which is a bad situation because duration of breast-feeding is an important factor in children's health."

Even mothers who are committed to nursing say they are shaken when confronted with the hostility or consternation of strangers observing them.

"People make you feel like you're doing something dirty, almost," said Rene Harrell, 26, of Chantilly, Va., who said she was recently asked to leave a Delta airport lounge in Atlanta as she nursed her 8-month-old son, Elijah.

Once on the plane awaiting takeoff, she said, a man across the aisle complained loudly about her into his cellphone as she continued to nurse.

The scene, said Ms. Harrell, reminded her of the one Ms. Walters described, which she read about on an Internet discussion board.

"It's just, where would you like me to go so I don't bother you by being here?" Ms. Harrell said. "He was not on solids. It's not like I could have given him something to tide him over. He needed to eat."

Marilyn Yalom, the author of "History of the Breast," says Americans' views of the breast has changed over time, and could change again. More than in other countries, she said, the breast is seen here as a sexual object.

"We live in a very mechanistic society and almost anything that doesn't come out of a package is somehow suspect," Ms. Yalom said. "So milk that comes out of a real human breast, we're not very comfortable with, it brings us too close to our animal nature."

The nurse-in at ABC was perhaps the largest of the dozen or so held around the country over the last year.

"I have the right to breast-feed my child without getting nasty looks," said Patricia Lechuga, 32, who said she watches "The View" every morning while breast-feeding her 10-month-old daughter before her nap. "So many people watch the show, I was just so disappointed in them."

On the Upper West Side, it was hard to find anyone to disagree with her.

"Are there people who are against breast-feeding?" asked Rich Flisher, 39, a neighborhood resident passing by the nurse-in. "I do prefer it if you're discreet, but hey, I'm behind you. Go go go."

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if that Rebecca Odes mentioned is the same Rebecca Odes that was in Love Child with Alan Licht.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Lactivist is my new favorite word.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

I was with a group touring the White House in '95, and a woman with babe in arms started nursing him when he got fussy (jesus, I almost typed "when I got fussy"). The tour guide got very nervous, just a few um-uh's shy of freaking out, and kept asking her to stay one one room behind or ahead the group, and she was like "WTF?! buzz off, Poindexter!"

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

Well, you don't know what she had in there.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

Barbara Walters is such a useless twat.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

I want to know which East Village knitting store was anti-nursing! If it's Downtown Yarns, I'll be sad. If it's Knit NY, I'll be totally unsurprised.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it's that rebecca odes.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

JESUS CHRIST THESE WOMEN DID THIS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF MY OLD APARTMENT

WHERE WERE THEY WHEN I LIVED THERE?

Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

rebacca odes breastfeeding in public is kinda an exciting idea ... not that I sexualize breasts or anything.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

They need to hook up with that lady who put out the fire on the bus with a bottle of breast milk.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

"spillage"

The Ghost of BREAST FOUNTAIN (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Exposed tits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crying babies.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

"I have the right to breast-feed my child without getting nasty looks," said Patricia Lechuga, 32

I am not entirely convinced that this woman understands the concepts of "rights". I mean, she certainly has the right to breast-feed and, prudishness aside, she ought to be able to breast-feed in public, but she has the RIGHT to not get any nasty looks? Does she also have the right to applause and a musical number celebrating her outstanding maternalcy? WTF.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

I agree Dan but the essential point that feeding babies>>>>>>other people feeling weird, still holds.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

So "I have the right to feed my child without being jailed" is what she should have said. That stupid fuck.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

if you wanna feel bad about things in general, go enjoy some of the right-wing blososphere stuff on this, where they spend a lot of time comparing breastfeeding to pissing & shitting ("also natural, bodily functions!")

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

I used to work with that Rebecca 0des.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

her wedding announcement was in the times, i remember. i really need to get that love child video of mine back from l!cht.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

I agree Dan but the essential point that feeding babies>>>>>>other people feeling weird, still holds.

From the standpoint of someone who will never ever have to worry about this barring some startling medical advances, if you don't have the spine to tell some stranger giving you the stinkface, "Fuck you, I'm feeding my baby," you've got a deeper set of issues you need to work on before you start having kids.

Entitlement: It's The American Way!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I'm all for public breastfeeding, but there's something kind of funny about our inane decision that an, ahem, "employed" breast is natural and an unemployed breast-as-breast is sexual and inappropriate. Possibly we're all just going by FCC standards, where breastfeeding isn't actual nudity because the baby acts as a pastie.

nabiscothingy, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Anyway it's summer, there are tits everywhere, no biggie. I saw two different women's nipples on the train yesterday.

nabiscothingy, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

"the baby acts as a pastie" is the greatest sentence ever written.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Obviously, you need to read more Kirkegard.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

I saw two different women's nipples on the train yesterday.

I wish my city had better public transportation. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

An Ohio bill saying a woman is "entitled to breast-feed her baby in any place of public accommodation" passed last month over the objection of one representative who wanted to exempt businesses from liability for accidents caused by "spillage."

The rep must remember that episode of CHiPs. Ponch and Baker were chasing this Bonnie and Clyde bankrobbing team. Lactating Bonnie caused a "spillage" on purpose, sending Ponch to skid off the freeway on his chopper.

Andy K. (ADK), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

So I was watching this episode of The View with my lactivist wife. Rosie O'Donnell was on and talked about how she "put a stop to" her mate breast feeding their kid basically 'cause it made her jealous.

Andy K. (ADK), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Exposed tits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crying babies.

Word. The next breastfeeder who gets a nasty look should whip both tits out and machine-gun the jerk with boobjuice.

Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

My life is breastfeeding right now. Today, Cyrus wants to have a little drink on the hour. I always thought I'd be a public breastfeeder, with no qualms about it, but I've discovered I'm a bit shy about it. Partly because the only easy position to get the baby to latch properly is to lie down on my side. Sitting in a chair, I have to tug and pull and push the baby and my nipple, with him crying and doing a head bob and weave, just to get him to latch. I envy those women who can breastfeed so easily that a crowd of them was *standing* and nursing. Maybe it will get easier. I never did manage to get Rufus to latch, so this is new to me this time. I certainly hope it becomes possible for me to easily and nonchalantly nurse Cyrus "on the fly" -- udderwise I will never be able to venture far from a bed or other comfie surface for lying prone.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

"udderwise"

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

machine-gun the jerk with boobjuice
machine-gun the jerk with boobjuice
machine-gun the jerk with boobjuice
machine-gun the jerk with boobjuice
machine-gun the jerk with boobjuice
OMG

(In other news, nabisco OTM, I've never understood why it was so awful for a non-lactating woman to whip out her tit, especially if Karl-from-ATHF lookalikes can mow their fucking lawns in Farmingdale wearing only a speedo but Angelina Jolie cannot. That's really fucked up and wrong.)

Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

The year we actually went to the Gay Pride Parade, my favorite spectator was the 30-ish woman wearing only a red thong and stilettos, jumping up and down cheering for the oiled-up male-stripper-type float dancers. The next time I saw her she had affixed pride stickers that were being handed out to her nipples.

Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

(Jeanne's post rendered me helpless with laughter for a good 20 minutes.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

If Angelina Jolie lived by me and wanted to mow the lawn in a speedo, I ... I would open a lemonade stand.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

say, aren't there baby shawls or something that can be put to use in this situation?

kf, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

(I need glasses. I misread that as "baby seals".)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

baby seals would be so much better. have the baby humans nurse from the baby seals! no more flesh on display! hurrah.

i think mommas should be able to breast feed any old place. titties for all. everyone's got a mom and everyone should be ok with this sort of thing. get over it, baba. oh and it would delight and astonish so many 12 year old boys i hafta say it can't be a bad thing.

jane (jane), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
haha I just enrolled me AND MY HUSBAND in breastfeeding school!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Like either of you need the practice....

oops did i say that ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

It's a very prestigious school.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

omg, you're studying breastfeeding at Harvard?!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Teeny's got an appetite for instruction.

Je4nn3 boob ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

if a baby can't properly breastfeed, it should be discarded. survival of the fittest, people.

strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Boobitas.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

What was Mr Teeny's comment in regards to this? were there quips made about "requiring homework"?

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

I told him there was an optional workshop afterward in east st louis.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

his response?

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

he appropriately acknowledged my sense of humor.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

holy shit. So, I GIS'ed "eating a peach" for a picture of the "optional workshop" (haha!!! I am funny!) and all I got was SOFTCORE GAY PORN.


I am at work. Now YOU try!

giboy-YO!, Friday, 7 October 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

AND babies! Gays and babies!

giboy-YO!, Friday, 7 October 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

L.A. Cidivists represent!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
hey guys I'm going to a la leche league meeting this week! they're hardcore!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 16 January 2006 14:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.homegrocer.com/images/products/ice%20dulce.gif

Dan (FUCKING HARDCORE) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 January 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Shirts for lactivists, male or female

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:18 (twenty years ago)

my aunt is a totally hardcore pro-breast feeder, she breast fed her kids (my cousins, obviously) till they were like, 5.

latebloomer: virtuous, pure and masculine like only an American male can be (lat, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

my landlords came over on sunday to fix some things and one of them locked herself in my bedroom for half an hour so she could pump. i know i shouldn't feel weird about it, but i do.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:12 (twenty years ago)

she breast fed her kids (my cousins, obviously) till they were like, 5.

I feel like teething is Nature's way of telling you to stop that shit.

Latin Routes (noodle vague), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:37 (twenty years ago)

http://prodtn.cafepress.com/0/44074460_F_tn.jpg
http://prodtn.cafepress.com/0/44074460_B_tn.jpg

haha!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
hey guys it's world breastfeeding week!

I am SO DISAPPOINTED google didn't do one of their special google pictures for this.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

Those OOs were wasted.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

We can't have you smut merchants dictating what our children see.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

# LACTIVISTS (3 new answers, 60 total)
# TOUCH IT (38 new answers)

de latebloomer's 2015 youth crew revival (latebloomer), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

"Celebration" indeed

kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

and on the topic of healthy breasteses, there's always this helpful NSFW PSA site:

http://www.checkoutmybreasts.com/

kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

I am totally in love with breastfeeding, like I always heard women say it "feels good" and I interpreted that to mean "not bad" or something like that but actually it feels good like xanax feels good, there's some awesome hormones at work there. I am seriously considering being a la leche league leader now.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Those hormones are great stuff; very relaxing. Mmmmm prolactin. I have awful bouts of insomnia, but often getting baby to nurse helped a bunch.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Mom's Milk May Cut Baby Skin Allergies

Chemicals in Breast Milk May Help Ward Off Infant Dermatitis

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Amazing isn't it Teeny?! I was sad when my first decided she'd had enough and only wanted to drink from cups when she was about a year old. My second started biting me and laughing around the 6 month mark, so no more fun for mom.

My favorite semi-public nursing story - at a family gathering, I was nursing my second in a quiet room away from the main party. My 4 year old brother walked in to talk to me, went goggle-eyed when he took in the scene and dashed out to the main party yelling "You would not believe what she's letting that baby do!!!!"

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

haha that's great! :D

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)


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