If you wear perfume or cologne when it's 90 degrees out....

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....you're a jerk.

Discuss.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Apparently, I am a jerk. OTOH, I don't wear a lot so maybe I'm only a little bit of a jerk.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't, just deodorant. Why does make someone a jerk though?

I’m not starting an argument (just thought I’d say as I’ve had my head bit of more than once on iLX recently), I’m curious to you reasoning.

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

If they douse themselves in an overpowering, gaudy smell, they're most likely jerks regardless of the temperature.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm a jerk. I love cologne and perfume, I don't understand why everyone hates it (of course, in high doses, it is awful, I agree).

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

perfumed jerks unite. in small amounts, i think it's fine.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

someone douse Alex in NYC in Drakkar Noir, pls.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

I have one bottle of Hugo Boss, I do 1 spray because A, it's £30 for a tiny bottle & B, well there is no B because A is a good enough reason not to put loads on..

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

I am a jerk. I am shamelessly addicted to the smell of my own perfume (Guerlain's Mitsouko) and feel under-dressed if I don't put it on in the mornings.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Still, Mandee, Lauren, I'm a jerk in good company.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

i don't care how much Cool Water a girl puts on, it gives me butterflies in my belly.

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Mitsouko Mmmmmmmm.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

it would be a different story if i'd ever been told off, but i've never had anyone complain - and i've got some VERY blunt friends.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I have about 8 different perfumes, I dunno which one is my favorite, I really like Michael by Michael Kors and Lolita Lempicka. Like Anna, when I've forgotten my precious fragrance I feel like some people must feel when they leave the house and realize they've forgotten to brush their teeth or put on deodorant or.. even wear trousers!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

What am I supposed to feel like when those things happen?

― nabiscothingy, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Awkward, very awkward.

― Sans (you better believe it), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

(at least if you leave the hous without... trousers!)

― Sans (you better believe it), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I am also a jerk, it seems. Escada, Rockin' Rio.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I'm a jerk and I smell loverly.

― Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

This thread is not about deodorant. If you don't wear deodorant, you are well beyond jerkdom and firlmy entrenched within the borders of Assholedom.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Come now Alex, really you love us.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

I mostly agree, Alex, except that that's total culturalist bullshit, both concerning what people "should" smell like and what methods they should use to get smelling that way. I've got people in my family who didn't grow up wearing deodorant and don't wear it now and smell fine -- they just bathe, like, twice a day. (Which tends to leave them smelling better than deodorant-wearing laundry-lazy me.)

― nabiscothingy, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

I don't smell so good right now myself. It's time to start showering in the morning instead of before bed, because I pretty much sweat all night. Or buy an air conditioner.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Plus also I do feel like we've reached entirely ridiculous levels of decadence and comfort when we're like rigidly offended about having to smell things. It's kind of a creepy development, being some of the first animals on the planet to decide it's too good to smell things.

― nabiscothingy, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Still, nabisco, I'm happy I don't have to go around smelling other people's asses to recognize them.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

If you aren't sweating, should you still be wearing deodorant? I am scared and ignorant about this question.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

it's too good to smell things

People stink if they don't take steps to not stink. In many places in the world, everrybody stinks, so it's not stink anymore. The japanese think white people stink. It's all about diet, of course.

I used to get grossed out by cabbies that smell like the world's largest foot and drive with the windows rolled up. But what am I going to say to them? "Change your diet and your lifestyle?"

Myself, I choose not to stink as much as possible, because I want to get laid again someday.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Beyond the cultural stuff ... from time to time I find myself in a small space like an elevator or a tightly packed subway car with someone wearing WAY too much cologne or perfume and it inevitably triggers a big sneezing fit. Annoying for me, but hey, public space and all.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

The thing is, perfume/cologne ideally shouldn't mask your odor but combine with it to make a fragrant new smell.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

I think Alex is pissed off at people that overuse cologne then proceed to sweat like crazy in humidity, creating a cloud of cologne-scented sweat mist that covers everything in its path. It's scary, I've smelled it happening.

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

I make efforts not to stink as well, and appreciate when the people around me do the same. I'm just saying that, umm, conceptually, it's kind of a funny thing. My sense of smell is possibly underdeveloped, too, as I get kind of annoyed when people go on and on about really minor odors.

― nabiscothingy, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

I stopped going to those gay bars where the WAVE of cologne hits you when you enter.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

think Alex is pissed off at people that overuse cologne then proceed to sweat like crazy in humidity, creating a cloud of cologne-scented sweat mist that covers everything in its path. It's scary, I've smelled it happening.

DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner!!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I would be much more annoyed by someone talking loudly on a phone next to me on the bus than by someone smelling strongly next to me on the bus. And I would much rather be sitting next to a person who smelled of sweat than a person who smelled of sweat masked with heavy cologne.

― kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

I guess I like the sweaty, silent type.

― kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Kirsten, that made me laugh.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I would be much more annoyed by someone talking loudly on a phone next to me on the bus than by someone smelling strongly next to me on the bus.

you didn't smell the disgusting bastard who got on the number 44 in glasgow with me the other week, then. i could smell him from the other side of the bus. nauseating. blue anorak, black slacks ... stank like he hadn't washed in a decade. christ, thinking about it makes me want to vom.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

If you can smell anyone without effort, it's usually not a good thing.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

I totally want an answer to my deodorant question!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I don't see any reason why you'd need to wear deodorant if you're not sweating. Or even want to.

― kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I don't see any reason why you'd need to wear deodorant if you're not sweating. Or even want to.

Sometimes you can't smell yourself. Others can.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

yeah gravel, give it up. i gave up deodorant this spring because it appeared on the shirt i was wearing, so i threw it out in a fit of rage. i don't really hate the smell of sweat that much either, as long as one showers freqently enough and washes sweaty clothes. unfortunately i'm in the south for a while, and it's hot, and i had to pick up the deodorant again. :(

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Tracer and I are confirmed Arseholists.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes you can't smell yourself. Others can.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), June 8th, 2005 1:49 PM. (later)

I guess I don't see why this is such a big deal. To me, there are lots of far worse/more irritating/more disgusting things to suffer through with strangers in enclosed spaces. Like noisy phone conversations, or ugly frat-boy toes in flip-flops, or people who refuse to give up bus seats for old ladies, or people who think that the bus is a good place to eat barbecued pork. When all of these things cease to exist, maybe I will start to give a damn if the person reading the paper over my shoulder wishes my shoulder smelled more like honeydew.

― kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

I don't wear deodorant. I do wear perfume. I just make sure I have clean clothes. If I realize I sweat too much, then I'll have a shower and/or make sure I put on new clothes and/or put perfume on. I do hate people who sweat profusely. But I hate people who put on gallons of perfume even more; IT STINKS, you're invading my space with your perfume.

― nathalie's post modern sleaze fest (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

kirsten OTM. I don't have a problem with being considered an asshole for a couple spritzes of Kiehl's Musk or Angel, and I don't really get, like, smelly from sweating. Antiperspirant started giving me rashes and pain to the point where shaving was kind of torturous so I threw it out. I don't think any of my friends have noticed the difference.

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

although, yes, the people whose cologne you can smell from like 8 miles away are frightening.

― Allyzay flies casual (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

i like smelling like a human. hating the smell of sweaty people is kind of weird, when you think about it.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Cheap perfume that smells like sweet armpit is really the problem here. A subtle smell of a mild perfume can be pleasant on an otherwise stinky day.

― geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Ally OTM, I gave up the search for an anti-persperant or deoderant that didn't bring me out in a painful rash. I shower enough anyway.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

hating the smell of sweaty people is kind of weird, when you think about it.

Well, sweat doesn't smell. People generally have a nice smell. Often people smell downright sexy. HOWEVER people who have a high sugar content in their sweat for whatever reason and then allow the sweat to stay on their body for long enough that bacteria begin to breed very successfully in it and then create waste products of their own, which is actually what smells bad -- that's dud. Sorry.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

For the record: Kirsten always smells sweet as a daisy.

― Lara (Lara), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

i wear odeur 53, but i worry its too conceptual

― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 11 June 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

i prefer odeur 71. that's even more conceptual but smells much better.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

My odeur is so conceptual it comes in a bottle with no inner surface. I haven't been able to apply it yet.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 11 June 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

dont mock rei, she'll come along and deconstruct you

― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 11 June 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

It's already started, my leg just fell off.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 11 June 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/on-line/surfaces/C100361.jpg

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 11 June 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

ALIENS

A small bit of deodorant each day and that's it for me. I've very rarely noticed anyone wearing 'too much' cologne or whatever, so I conclude most have reached a happy medium.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 June 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

GUYS WHO WEAR COLOGNE ARE FUCKING DOUCHEBAGS

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 11 June 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

I like wearing cologne (Paul Smith green bottle, Santel by Floris). And I like perfume on women.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

as long as it's not that perfume that smells like formaldahyde. i swear, a girl in this office wears perfume that smells like formaldahyde.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

or potpourri. And, yes, cheap cologne/perfume is just bad.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

nobody sweats in Dunedin - too cold. And we all wear the same perfume.

― rainy (rainy), Saturday, 11 June 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

http://www.oceanimpact.com/directory/elkhan/exportpics/perfume%2520bottles/b1-12.gif

― rainy (rainy), Saturday, 11 June 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

Rainy, you wonderful lass. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 June 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

What if you come into work and you're sweating, and you just use some cream or powder to freshen up? My god.

― bob n0pe (bobnope), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

Once again, people are NOT reading the thread. This is NOT a tirade against fans of perfume and cologne, but rahter against people who go to town with the stuff on days when you could fry an egg on the sidewalk.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)

rainy is back?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 12 June 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

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