Is there anyone in this bitch who doesn't think there are alien races in the universe?

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Millions of galaxies
Millions of stars

Potentially millions of solar systems


It's highly improbable that human beings are the only life-forms in the universe, is it not?

trappist monkey, Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

are you in the dreamworks marketing department?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

Inspired by a recent Horizon doc, not bleedin' War of the Worlds (i am not going to bother w/ Spielberg americanizing yet another english classic)

trappist monkey, Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

Don't worry, the Chinese will eventually remake every American movie.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 10 June 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

orson welles got there first

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 10 June 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

I watched Contact today. It made me think twice.

You fondle my trigger then you blame my gun / Kate (papa november), Friday, 10 June 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

It only made me think once...And the thought was: "Why am I watching this?"

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

No one knows exactly how probable life is. Even with trllions of planets, Earth could be quite rare. Also, with the low probability of intelligent life being born and developing high distance space travel, combined with the huge distances in space, it's rather unlikely we'll ever meet other species, even if they exist. That's why X Files is bullshit.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

i don't think the notoriously internationalist hg wells would have had muchos probs with AMERIKKKANS remaking his stuff d00ds.

N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

if we have a problem we tend to think we are the only person who has ever had said problem until we discuss it with someone. As a species and as a planet we have lots of pretty seriouse problems, so we'd like someone to talk to about it, but we figure there is no one out there who will ever really understand.

lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

once we get out of high school though man, we'll be through with this b.s.

oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

It's not so much the abundance of solar systems in the universe but the abundance of lifeforms on this one planet alone that suggests to me there is more elsewhere. For there not to be just seems utterly absurd.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

once something happens once in the universe, why wouldn't it happen again?

oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm still holding out for the scantily clad women that live on Venus

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

The Universe is big (even just the observable bit is pretty huge) Given the physical laws we know seem to operate all over it and the apparent ubiquity of planets, it's logical to assume that there are planets like this one (somewhere out there) where life has arisen. And given enough cases of this it's probable that more than one planet has intelligent occupants

This doesn't mean that little green guys are dropping in on us for the sole purpose of shoving objects up rednecks' arses.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

It's not so much the abundance of solar systems in the universe but the abundance of lifeforms on this one planet alone that suggests to me there is more elsewhere. For there not to be just seems utterly absurd.

But they've all developed from the same primordial single-cell organisms, and the probability of those ever coming to be is what's unsure.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

The Universe is big (even just the observable bit is pretty huge) Given the physical laws we know seem to operate all over it and the apparent ubiquity of planets, it's logical to assume that there are planets like this one (somewhere out there) where life has arisen. And given enough cases of this it's probable that more than one planet has intelligent occupants

This seems like common sense but it fact it's not particularly difficult to construct an equally plausible opposite argument (as many scientists do), that the circumstances under which life arose on this planet were so improbable that they are unlikely to be replicated elsewhere.

frankiemachine, Friday, 10 June 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

This thread reminds me about the joke where Holmes and Watson go camping...

I definitely believe that there are alien life forms elsewhere in the universe, even if they aren't wisecracking rubber sitcom characters. I also believe that we're never actually going to find any of them, or any convincing proof of their existance.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

Damn digital!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

I only pray that Jeff Goldblum, Will Smith, and Bill Pullman are still around to keep us safe when we finally encounter them

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

Not to mention Apple Macs

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

This thread reminds me about the joke where Holmes and Watson go camping...

...

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

and good old bacteria

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Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Do you think bacteria can see us?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

The joke is that they find themselves both awake in the middle of the night. Holmes says: "Watson, when you look up and see all those stars above us, what does that say to you?"

"Well," he replies, "I can see thousands upon thousands, indeed, countless stars above me. And I'm sure that, however unlikely it is, there must be some of those stars up there with planets circling them just like our own - thousands of them, in fact. And I'm sure that, however unlikely it is, there are so many planets like ours up there in the night sky that, somewhere in the universe, there must be another planet like ours with intelligent life on it."

"That may be true, Watson," Holmes says, "but to me, it says that someone has stolen the tent."

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

good point.

does the fish know what's outside the water? does the dung beetle think about life outside elephant droppings?

we don't know shit, which is less than can be said for the dung beetle!

latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

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latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

i personally have no idea whether there are intelligent extraterrestrials. i tend to think though that things like SETI though are merely the scientifically respectable version of looking for god with a telescope. it's just as anthropomorphic to assume that other beings, if they exist, would have even the basic desire in common to seek out intelligent life as it is to believe that flying saucers are beings from zeta reticuli here to collect our love juices.

that said, i believe in alf.

latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

he's fuzzy, intelligent, occasionally funny, and dammit if he ain't lovable!

latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

It's highly improbable that human beings are the only life-forms in the universe, is it not?

I think evidence is pretty good that we are not. Scientists believe that other species of animals exist, RIGHT HERE ON EARTH! It's TRUE!

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

D'OH

trappist monkey, Friday, 10 June 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

i don't see much reason to think there are, but i don't care enough to think that the opposite view is stupid.

Maria (Maria), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Here's the tedious Drake equation that always gets trotted out during discussion of this nature:

http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/SETI/drake_equation.html

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 10 June 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Question: For each star that does have a planetary system, how many planets are capable of sustaining life?
Answer: Current estimates range from 1 to 5.

They've abandoned any semblance of sense by this point, and we aren't halfway through yet. No one has anything remotely resembling even a vague definition of 'capable of sustaining life'; and if we did, it would probably relate to carbon-based life on a small rocky planet - and we don't know how common such planets are, or what they are generally like. This nonsense is a non-starter even if it weren't stupidly narrowminded in conception. I bunged in some figures that seemed to me to be absolutely as good (or bad estimates) as any others, and it told me there were over half a billion intelligent races in this galaxy alone that were trying to get in touch. I could as easily argue for figures that would lead to zero.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

It's highly improbable that human beings are the only life-forms in the universe, is it not?

Um, what about monkeys, dolphins, ants, ameobas, bacteria, Siberian tigers, and the list goes on...

Ian Riese-Moraine. Exposing ambitious careerists as charlatans since 1986. (East, Friday, 10 June 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

yeah! and what about 5 posts upthread?!

oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

fourteen years pass...

please alien intelligence, save us

A radio signal is coming from a nearby galaxy, scientists announce https://t.co/IFWJcMTSsN

— The Independent (@Independent) January 7, 2020

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 15:27 (six years ago)

great revive

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 15:27 (six years ago)

two years pass...

Our ancestors' best tools all came from space: This paper finds that every iron artifact found before 1,200 BCE was forged from meteoric iron, which was worth more than gold. ☄️ pic.twitter.com/UYIaBlCeU8

— Ethan Mollick (@emollick) February 3, 2022

mark s, Thursday, 17 February 2022 11:19 (four years ago)

Do you think the term "alien" is offensive and we should adopt the more accurate term "extra-terrestrials"?

No Anal Staircase For You, Gotcha (I M Losted), Thursday, 17 February 2022 15:07 (four years ago)

Absolutely not, I M Losted.

Why should we be bothered about this stage about offending something when we don't know if it even exists? How do we know if, should it exist, it even has the concept of being offended?

I object to the concept of blasphemy for the same reasons.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 17 February 2022 15:27 (four years ago)


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