checking into the loony bin: good idea/bad idea

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Reaffirming the notion that ILX is a refuge for the DSM IV index, I have seriously been thinking recently that a stay in crackerbox palace may be what's needed to sort myself out. I'm a bit worried, however, that it would come back to haunt me, that employers would look into it and so forth

logged the fuck out, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

Medical records are confidential. Tell everybody you went to visit relatives. Do what you feel you need.

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

You need to do what you need to do to get right; also, anyplace that's going to discriminate against you for voluntarily getting help is likely a place you really don't want to work at anyway.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

I've been in twice while employed full-time. Once it was neccesary to tell a supervisor where I was and this did not reflect negatively on me. Not that that would've mattered. I needed to be there and the second time especially it was definitely worth it.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

I have a friend who at one point found it necessary. It helped. Plus, it eventually led to a book deal.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

I have the george harrison song stuck in my head now, dammit.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)

What Orbit (and others, xpost) said. I would probably talk to a therapist or shrink or whatever before I did anything that drastic, though. They may be able to think of alternatives (ie - something as simple as just going on vacation). Not sure what your particular personal problem is, tho, so maybe "going on vacation" sounds a little flippant.

giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)

Your friend wrote A Million Little Pieces?

giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)

i have been an "inpatient" before, what the experience amounted to was feeling cooped up with people who had far worse problems than i did, with nothing to do all day but look forward to group therapy in the evening.

looking back, i think what i may have needed at the time was some sort of outpatient program - the group therapy was really helpful, and having something to do / somewhere to be would have kept me out of trouble. at the same time i could have kept doing what i was doing (school and work) ... quitting my job and dropping out was a HUGE interruption in my "life path" (whatever the fuck that means). also i have done lots of individual therapy since then, which has been IMMENSELY helpful, but at the same time, because it has been individual therapy it has, at times, made me feel somewhat more isolated / especially fucked up than i actually am / have been.

i have a few friends who are doing outpatient for various things (addictions, eating disorders) and it seems to be working really well for them ... maybe you could look into that?

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)


Medical records are confidential. Tell everybody you went to visit relatives. Do what you feel you need.

Not in this age of fraud, they're not.

bob n0pe (bobnope), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

meaning what? often medical charges show up in ways that are difficult to tell what is what. Do not let such a fear keep you from seeking help that you need.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)

When I had a Phillip K Dick momemnt, I checked myself in at the local outpatient. The medicated me up and explained what was happening. Certain trusted people got me thru it. Then I went out and got a job and no one was the wiser.

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

anyway, i am sure in this day and age there is a bigger stigma about letting your problems go unchecked than there is about being on medication or being in group therapy or even being in assisted living.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

nowadays people don't say "oh he/she crazy", they say "that person needs help" or "i guess so-and-so didn't take their meds today"

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)


True, but it's still slander, even if 'coded'. Especially if someone is not ON any medication except in people's imaginations. Remind me again what day of the week it is and what time it is in California?

x-post: Miss Misery, did I say that I needed help? If you think such information isn't being covertly passed around, I don't know what to tell you.

bob n0pe (bobnope), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)


My advice to the op is to seek out a professional you trust about what's ailing you. Don't just wander into any 'loony bin'.

bob n0pe (bobnope), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh please.

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

it is quarter of eight, monday night

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)


Oh please, indeed. zzzzzzzzzzzzz.............

bob n0pe (bobnope), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

Fuck off.

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)


"Tell everyone you went to visit relatives." Are you really this naive? If you're that concerned about it "getting back to you", you wouldn't use the oldest excuse of them all.

If someone's gonna spread malicious gossip about you and take it to your boss, take the hard line. Don't say anything, or threaten to sue if you're harassed over a medical condition. Then maybe you can find the fuck out who is ratting on you.

Furthermore, you shouldn't have to use vacation time for a fucking illness. Or don't these naive people giving ridiculous advice have REAL jobs?

"Fuck off" - that's an eloquent defense of your comments.

bob n0pe (bobnope), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

God you are an idiot. Over and out.

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)


Ha ha.

bob n0pe (bobnope), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

ahem. to the op: I haven't done the inpatient thing, but I have done group therapy. Like vahid said, it was helpful. Sometimes being around people crazier than you are can be helpful too.

It really depends upon what you are trying to get out of it i should think. Would a change of environment (ie a vacation) work just as well? Or regular therapy? I'd say that inpatient care should be a last resort.

mouse (mouse), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

...I don't understand this dispute. Taking medical leave is perfectly acceptable in most places. A clinic is a clinic is a clinic; you don't have to disclose why you're taking medical leave. The only documents (bills, etc.) would go to your insurance company anyway, and your employer shouldn't have access to that stuff.

To wit: one of my teacher's in HS took medical leave because of cancer (this is what she told everyone). Later, after she had an illicit affair w/a 15 yr old student it was revealed that she had taken it for mental illness.

(I am NOT comparing you to my teacher, btw)

giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

Like I said above I was employed full-time both times I was an inpatient.

you're not going to be able to just check yourself in. If you're not already under the care of a psychatrist (which I hope you are) then a doctor at the facility will evaluate you. She or he could then decide you'd be better off in an outpatient program or whatever. But if your instincts are saying you need this kind of respite you're probably right.

I've been in individual therapy off and on for nearly twenty years and have also done intensive outpatient therpay (reporting every day to the hospital) in addition to inpatient stays. Each has been helpful in different ways.

Good luck.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)


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