Three days into the Roehampton qualifiers, seedings this afternoon, draw tomorrow morning - I think it's time.
Agassi has withdrawn, which is a bit sad. It seems like only yesterday* that, as a callow 17-y-o, he was getting thrashed by Henri Leconte on court no.1 while I was queueing outside, unable to see anything. (* - I sleep heavily thesedays).
Federer still hasn't lost on grass since 2002 and Roddick hasn't lost on grass to anyone who wasn't Federer since 2002. Curious to see if the AELTC simply wrap the ranking list round a brick and lob it through Buster Mottram's window (he's had it coming) and just make A-Rod #2 to keep them apart in the draw.
The women's event is a bit more open, I think. This is a roundabout way of saying I haven't done my homework. Is Serena fit? (Don't answer that, Perry). Even if she is I can't see a Williams in the final this year. I'm backing Justine.
Get stuck in then.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
Qualies report:
Guccione, who played a very entertaining match vs Henman at Queen's last week, nudged out Patience 23-21 in the third in their first round match before Losing To A Brit (Delgado). On the ATP tour it's not unknown for players to be forced to wear a badge (a teddy bear crying Union Jack tears) to show that they Lost To A Brit in the Roehampton qualies. Some can't stand the ridicule and the stigma and end up giving basketball clinics in Split. Gambill and Clement are still in there, watching the rain fall, waiting for their final qualifying matches, which is reassuring. Bit of a comedown for those two.
They don't hand out badges on the WTA tour - they don't have to. Plucky Mel South took a set off Rita Kuti Kis but the rest of the UK Grrlz folded like damp flatbread: taking a total of 25 games in 5 matches. I'm keen to see if Sybille BAMMER makes it.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
Seeds for the Gentlemen's Singles:>
1. FEDERER, Roger (SUI) 2. RODDICK, Andy (USA) 3. HEWITT, Lleyton (AUS) 4. NADAL, Rafael (ESP) 5. SAFIN, Marat (RUS) 6. HENMAN, Tim (GBR) 7. CANAS, Guillermo (ARG) 8. DAVYDENKO, Nikolay (RUS) 9. GROSJEAN, Sebastien (FRA) 10. ANCIC, Mario (CRO) 11. JOHANSSON, Joachim (SWE) 12. JOHANSSON, Thomas (SWE) 13. ROBREDO, Tommy (ESP) 14. STEPANEK, Radek (CZE) 15. CORIA, Guillermo (ARG) 16. PUERTA, Mariano (ARG) 17. FERRER, David (ESP) 18. NALBANDIAN, David (ARG) 19. HAAS, Tommy (GER) 20. LJUBICIC, Ivan (CRO) 21. GONZALEZ, Fernando (CHI) 22. HRBATY, Dominik (SVK) 23. FERRERO, Juan Carlos (ESP) 24. DENT, Taylor (USA) 25. KIEFER, Nicolas (GER) 26. LOPEZ, Feliciano (ESP) 27. GASQUET, Richard (FRA) 28. NOVAK, Jiri (CZE) 29. MASSU, Nicolas (CHI) 30. SODERLING, Robin (SWE) 31. YOUZHNY, Mikhail (RUS) 32. VOLANDRI, Filippo (ITA)
Seeds for the Ladies' Singles:>
1. DAVENPORT Miss Lindsay (USA) 2. SHARAPOVA Miss Maria (RUS) 3. MAURESMO Miss Amelie (FRA) 4. WILLIAMS Miss Serena (USA) 5. KUZNETSOVA Miss Svetlana (RUS) 6. DEMENTIEVA Miss Elena (RUS) 7. HENIN-HARDENNE Mrs Justine (BEL) 8. PETROVA Miss Nadia (RUS) 9. MYSKINA Miss Anastasia (RUS) 10. SCHNYDER Miss Patty (SUI) 11. ZVONAREVA Miss Vera (RUS) 12. PIERCE Miss Mary (FRA) 13. LIKHOVTSEVA Miss Elena (RUS) 14. WILLIAMS Miss Venus (USA) 15. CLIJSTERS Miss Kim (BEL) 16. DECHY Miss Nathalie (FRA) 17. JANKOVIC Miss Jelena (SCG) 18. GOLOVIN Miss Tatiana (FRA) 19. IVANOVIC Miss Ana (SCG) 20. HANTUCHOVA Miss Daniela (SVK) 21. SCHIAVONE Miss Francesca (ITA) 22. FARINA ELIA Mrs Silvia (ITA) 23. SUGIYAMA Miss Ai (JPN) 24. ASAGOE Miss Shinobu (JPN) 25. SPREM Miss Karolina (CRO) 26. PENNETTA Miss Flavia (ITA) 27. VAIDISOVA Miss Nicole (CZE) 28. FRAZIER Miss Amy (USA) 29. BARTOLI Miss Marion (FRA) 30. SAFINA Miss Dinara (RUS) 31. MEDINA GARRIGUES Miss Anabel (ESP)32. RAZZANO Miss Virginie (FRA)
There ya go.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)
"Miss Amelie" sounds the cutest thing in the world. But it isn't. Oh no.
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
The one I'm watching in The Qualies is Miss Pironkova of Bulgaria, first name TSZVETANA!!!, who reached the semi-finals of her first ever WTA tournament last month.
Women's title is between Justine, Maria and Serena in that order I think. Justine is the mentally toughest woman on tour, on a million-match winning streak and has great grass-court game, but has never won it. Maria has been very consistent this year but keeps dropping sets to randoms and matches to Justine. Serena is probably the best grass-courter around but hasn't won a match of any sort for two months, and has pulled out of more events than she's completed this year. Everyone else = mental midget headcase type, expect CHOKING to ensue.
Is Davenport a Miss because she keeps her maiden name as her professional name?
Oh my, Serena and Venus could meet in the 4th round.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)
The new BBC trailers are intriguing, as they seem to be offering the vague prospect of ChakChakChak's girly forehand causing her to shatter into a thousand pieces. This is a notch up from last year's effort, with Mac detailing the great storylines the tournament had, almost exclusively involving players that didn't turn up. Nice way to portend the Lleytz-Clidge break-up too.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)
If the BBC had any sense they'd be playing the Venus and Serena line from 'Signs' over the trailers.
Hopefully I will also have magicked up a job by Tuesday but let's face it this won't be happening. I'd be up for queueing for a ground pass from early morning. Email me if you would also like this, I won't be back til Sunday.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)
I heart Justine so much, she should walk this tournament.
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 16 June 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 16 June 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4094998.stm for the men
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4095022.stm for the women
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
Nothing leaps out in Federer's quarter. Hewitt-Blake potential r2 ding-dong. Safin has a murderous segment: Srichaphan, Poup & Ancic await. Two of our ALL-TIME FAVES square off in the third quarter: Schalkin' Vac and Starchy Tito! Henbot has a really nasty one first up in Niemenen...Arthurs lurks in r3 and Grosjean in r4; a real achievement for Timmy to fulfil his seeding this year. Ljubicic is the scariest seed in Roddick's path but Ivo Karlovic is waiting in r2.
Third round clash for Clidge and Ai Sug? Can Suarez upset La Mesmo? Pierce-Henin r4 tie likely and, get this Second Monday organisers, Venus-Serena! They should both be Centre Court (if they happen) and sod the blokes. Should S(p)esil K deal with the feeble threat of Amanda Janes, it'll be Sharapova in r2.
Back with QF predictions later...
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)
Clijsters-AsagoeMauresmo-DementievaHeninHardenne-Hantuchova* Schiavone-Sharapova
(* - no Venus-Serena in r4 after all?)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
Clisters vs. SchnyderSprem vs. Frazier (the Murphy's Law quarter - if they can go wrong, they will)JHH vs. SerenaRazzano vs. Sharapova
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)
Clijsters vs KuznetsovaSprem vs Jankovic (for the jokes, mostly)Henin-Hardenne vs SerenaZvonareva vs Sharapova
Is there, is there, a reason for Roddick to have been promoted to #2 seed ahead of Hewitt?
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)
I don't like the fact that we all seem to think Pandy's gonna fall before the second Wednesday. Cos you know what that actually means will happen...
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)
Got my reasons for Malisse confused - Karlo does for Dicko. Igo does for Karlo. And Malisse does for him. I reckon.
Gonzalez will be the first seed to go. Mackin's victory leads to brief talk of revival in British men's tennis. This ends by the fourth round.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)
Youzhny (to Baghdatis)Davydenko (to Draper)Massu (to Sargsian)Nadal (to Spadea - gnarled, cynical, biggest-losing-streak-in-tennis-history Vince will asnnoy him into submission)Henman (to Nieminen)Volandri (to Arthurs)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)
I'm hoping safin does well, despite the tough draw.
(what time do ppl start queueing again? plz don't tell me thousands of ppl sleep overnight - sorry to ask but couldn't find the advice given last year (when I didn't go but its looking better this year), i searched for a bit earlier and now the search is slow...)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)
Bear in mind, however, Dechy now has Magic Trousers.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)
In the women's, Pironkova doesn't make it but Santangelo does. In the I-should-bloody-well-hope-so column, Els Callens and Ashley Harkleroad are there. As is Sofia Arvissson. It's about time we had a good Swede.
In the realm of the unfinished, we have a Brit whose storming comeback was stunted in the gloom: Delgado back from 2-6 5-7 vs Goldstein to level the match; Moodie-Djokovic also 2-2 overnight. And that's your lot.
Forecast for weekend is high-80s in London...but Monday is showers. :(
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 17 June 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)
Roddick won Queens for the third year in a row. Hewitt got kicked out by Karlovic. So yeah Roddick will probably do better this year on Wimbledon. (Also because Hewitt's been injured)
― Ludo (Ludo), Friday, 17 June 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 17 June 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
He's serving for a place at his 11th Championships - 5-2.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 17 June 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)
After a sweltering Sunday the weather looks likely to break this morning in London. Let's get the thunderstorm out of the way before 1pm, yeah?
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 20 June 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 20 June 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)
Re: seedings - there is a mysterious "grass court formula" which has never been revealed, usually it takes the form of "fiddle about with player's actual ranking + past grass record so that the Henbot gets promoted a bit". They don't bother for the women.
Last minute predictions -
Clijsters v KuznetsovaMauresmo v JankovicHenin-Hardenne v S.WilliamsRazzano v Sharapova
Federer v J.JohanssonHewitt v SafinO.Rochus v GasquetGrosjean v Roddick
I will be attending Wimbledon tomorrow (weather pending), queuing up from early o'clock and getting a ground pass. Londoners without prior work commitments, fancy joining me?
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)
Elsewhere - Shaughnessy vs. Schruff IS WAR - Mighty Meg takes the first 6-1, only for The Shambler to take the second by exactly the same score. Oh, and Chakkatakk IS ROBBED of the first set by Jankovic 6-4. Janko-BITCH, more like. Yeah.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)
Fedge's Road To Glory starts against PHM. He's 5-3 up, but two of Paul-Henri's three have been won against serve. He's a plucky young feller, no?
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)
Masterclasses - whatever else they are - aren't really where sport draws it's energy from.
― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)
So, today, rather selfishly, I want to see a thumping.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
― Flyboy (Flyboy), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)
I wuvved Edberg. Now *there* was a grass court player (*drifts back to rose-tinted summers in the late 80s*).
(x-post that was a cunning disguise to mask the fact that he's a just an emotion-free tennis-bot)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)
Is this still a pathetic attempt to get the Olympics?
(Hahaha, Roddick "I could do with a beer just now")
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
― Aaron A., Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
Sue B: "We didn't think you could get any better, but it seems that you have"Rog: "Yes, I guess so" (smug grin)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
(I'm developing silly reasons to dislike him now, just because I feel it's time)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)
The problem with this argument is that McEnroe (in 1984 particularly) was supremely dominant in a manner only matched by Federer last year and Becker won as many GS titles as (and a greater number of other titles than) the supposedly ice-cool Edberg. To be honest, Borg is the only example I can think of someone who totally sublimated a vicious temper to such an extent that he showed no emotion on court. Everyone else has their occasional wig-outs.
As for Roddick's awkwardness being potentially endearing - there was a South Carolina leftie called Tim Wilkison who was active in the '80s who I recall having a similarly unorthodox, ungainly scrapping style. I really loved watching him whereas I can't warm to Roddick - perhaps it was Timbo's lack of a 145mph serve and his eternal loserdom status which made him a wee bit cuddlier.
No one reigns for long in tennis - as supreme as he seems now, Rodge will be swallowed up by the pack over the next 3-4 years; he'll have to fight off Nadal, Gasquet and the rest of the teens. I personally would like to see him do a calendar-year Slam like Laver. And if Roddick simply has Becker's career minus the three Wimbledon titles, I'll settle for that too.
(Ailsa, my predictions are famously rotten! The year I got 10 of the 16 quarterfinalists across both events I practically did a lap of honour round Westow Park.)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
Well well well that was quite special.
I agree with all of those who say that sport draws its energy from rivalries not masterclasses BUT:
a) Federer is exception to all known rules - he plays at such a level that watching his masterclasses just feels like a privilege. No one else I have ever seen on a tennis court comes close. Conversely, any time when he's NOT playing this well feels a bit like a let down.
b) There are rivalries in men's tennis, still - it's just that none of them come to fruition at Wimbledon. Hewitt and Roddick are the next two best grass courters, and they're not so much Federer's rivals as his bitches. Roddick has only beaten Fed once ever! That is not a rivalry to hype up. However, Safin can match Federer elsewhere (well, potentially on grass too if he sorts his head out, but that's not gonna happen), and the emergence of Nadal and Gasquet bodes very well - especially as Gasquet has taken such a liking to grass.
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 3 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
Men's singles: Roger FedererWomen's singles: Venus WilliamsMen's doubles: Stephen Huss and Wesley MoodieWomen's doubles: Cara Black and Liezel HuberMixed doubles: Mahesh Bhupathi and Mary PierceBoys' singles: Jeremy ChardyGirls' singles: Agnieszka RadwanskaBoys' doubles: Jesse Levine and Michael ShabazGirls' doubles: Viktoria Azarenka and Agnes Szavay
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 3 July 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
― c/n (Cozen), Sunday, 3 July 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)
Side note: how long will Martina keep going before she just gives up on the record?
― Ally C (Ally C), Sunday, 3 July 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
I still like Borg best. And James Hunt. And Barry Sheene.
Jimmy Connors will be forever associated with Glen Campbell. I guess it is/was his/their wholesomeness.
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Monday, 4 July 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)
1. Roger Federer (1)2. Lleyotn Hewitt (2)3. Rafael Nadal (3)4. Andy Roddick (4)5. Marat Safin (5)6. Andre Agassi (6)7. Nikolay Davydenko (7)8. Guillermo Canas (8)9. Thomas Johansson (22)10. David Nalbandian (19)11. Tim Henman (9)12. Mariano Puerta (11)13. Gaston Gaudio (12)14. Joachim Johansson (10)15. Guillermo Coria (18)16. Radek Stepanek (13)17. Richard Gasquet (20)18. Fernando Gonzalez (24)19. Ivan Ljubicic (16)20. Tommy Robredo (14)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)
I thought Connors was OK throughout the event (his greatest quality was his genuine, and apparently newly-rediscovered, excitement for the game and the event) but he let himself down by repeatedly calling Roddick the "number two player in the world". Not for a good few months, Jimmy - and maybe not any time soon either.
I just wrote a long diatribe about Roddick having the worst placement of any of the Giant Servers but I think this thread has a surplus of Pandybashing already, so I've deleted it.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 4 July 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)
Connors' 'hm' after almost every point got annoying but I liked him.
Coverage in the times turned to fed's genius but again people are not looking at his opponent closely enough - there was no authority to roddick's passage to the final!!! he wz taken to five by the 1st week. If anyone believed he could beat fed he had to give better signs.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)
Roddick '04 seemed to tough out tight sets better than Roddick '05, though I frequently seemed to be outraged on the old thread about his perceived jamminess. His backhand hasn't improved, he's a wee bit better at (and keener to approach) the net but he just can't sustain the ace barrages any more. Federer started last year's tournament chugging along at about 75%, peaked in the qf vs Hewitt and then went off the boil; this year Fedz started a little weaker, hit top form in the latter stages vs Ferrero in r4 and basically stayed there. Federer '03 was wonderful throughout but, if I remember correctly, he had an easier draw, attacked the net a lot more and we didn't have quite such high expectations of him then.
In terms of games won, only Mathieu and Minar offered less resistance to Federer this year than Roddick.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)
what about..: "player X at full stretch here".
― Ludo (Ludo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)
Which means that Roddick is unsuitble to be promoted to #2 seeding, if you ask me. Except because he got to the final, it'll happen again next year, even though he only got there this year because he got pr... etc.
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)
The sense of deja vu about the final was quite satisfying, to me.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)
Edward O OTM. If AELTC really use a 24-month grasscourt ranking system then, even if Roddick is outside the #10 on the Entry System next June, he'll be #2 seed again if he does even moderately well at Queen's '06. To be honest, it's Lleyts who might slide during the rest of this year; Nadal may press for #2 now.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
26-8 for the former, an astonishingly poor 10-6 for the latter over the past year.
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)
2003? Gosh, time flies. But it is still amusing, or perhaps metaphysically interesting, that they have had virtually the same match three years running.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)
I think the popular perception of last year's final as a match that Roddick was unlucky to lose perhaps glosses over the fact that he was tremendous fortunate to find himself up against a man nowhere near his best on such a big occasion (which is atypical in itself - 21 consecutive winning finals and counting). But at least that made it a contest.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)
Incidentally - didn't you think: during the Final, they were often talking about Federer's inability to mishit a shot immediately after he had hit a ball into the net, been faulted on a serve, was 30-love down or whatever. The rhetoric tended to overtake what was happening on the green ground, even if the final score was emphatic enough.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)
(Recite in Andrew Castle voice.)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Thursday, 7 July 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Thursday, 7 July 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)