These are very very isolated cases, though every narrator in the film suddenly takes a grim tone and says "it's difficult for people to stomach the idea of an arthropod single handedly consuming a mammal or any animal that is evolutarionarily closer to a human being than the predator; but we must remember that this doesn't necessarily speak less of the mammals but more than.. blah blah blah".
What's the biggie, yo? These are usually unusually large arthropods, and usually infant or small mammals.
(And the shark/human thing doesn't apply, as we don't have to fear for sharks every day of our lives.. unless you make a living dressing up as a seal and wading out in the open waters)
― donut e-goo (donut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)
At the risk of bringing up this bugaboo again, the idea of of a man-made slaughterhouse for meat production is more chilling to me than TARANTULA vs. MOUSE... I don't think people are worse than me for thinking the opposite in this case, of course. But, I want to know what is it about BIG SPIDEY vs. LITTLE MOUSEY that makes people feel awful, aside from the issues that it was staged, etc. What if this was just something happening naturally outside a cage?
― donut e-goo (donut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goo (donut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)
HOW DARE YOU EXPOSE MY SECRET LIFE.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
Uhhh I don't see what is so cruel about this. Animals need to eat you dumb fuck.
― DAEREST V1CE MAGAZINE!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
What Dan says: there's human beings starving every minute and some people devote their time to worrying about ickle furry bunnies.
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
(2) Bugs Attack! is the mirrored horror of Durandal going Rampant: Mother Nature run amuck v. Human created intelligence run amuck. Both have overrun the confines of their station and upset the Natural Order of Things.
(xpost Dan et al: OTM. This is my PETA drives me crazy.)
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)
("Animals need to eat you dumb; fuck.")
(Nightmares of spiders eating my tongue tonight.)
(EW NIGHTMARES OF ROBERT SMITH AS THE SPIDERMAN TONIGHT EW)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)
I have just completely lost my shit.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)
(XPOST OMG VEGAN CAT FOOD)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, I heard about the veggie cat food deal. Veggie dog food too. In the liner notes for an old album of theirs Too Much Joy talk about how they gave these dogs owned by a rock star in LA real dog food because they were only eating veggie dog food. Amusingly, said rock star was Sammy Hagar.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
Oh totally. I have some friends in CO who will be raising their dog this way. Their dog is a HUSKY. Whatever. Some people buy their dogs sweaters instead of giving to the food shelter, etc. Not my thing and I'll leave it at that.
(Also: DURANDAL. Someone, please, validate my nerdiness.)
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
I'd have fed them Hagar's dismembered corpse. But, y'know, the cholesterol...
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
"Seems kinda gamey."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)
You're dead, Ned.
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)
...does that hurt more than normal-speed film?
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)
― TEH GHOST OF ILXBOT, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)
If given enough taurine, cats can be vegans, though I wonder how they would feel if someone gave them some meat. Still, I don't have a problem with people feeding their pets vegan or kosher or whatnot as long as they don't endanger the animals' health or severely diminish their quality of life.
― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
what is bad about the video is that it is not someone feeding a tarantula, it is someone killing a mouse. there is a difference. I'm not sure why no-one else can see that though.
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)
It has nothing to do with 'nature' or 'what animals do' (as noted above, captive tarantulas don't usually get fed adult mice) - it's the equivalent of videotaping someone crushing a mouse with his foot. Still OK with that?
Dismissing it as unimportant is stupid - no one's saying that mouse-murder is more important than Sudan, but it was there for the commenting, comments were made.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)
Yes.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)
xpost
I like the cut of your jib, Raggett.
― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goo (donut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)
So sue me, but no, I don't want to watch people killing mice for minor internet brownie points. And that is one of the many millions of things that I, as someone who has a choice in these matters, would prefer not to be exposed to. Dan and donut and Ned can also all do and think what they like.
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goo (donut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
The "I don't care" brigade aren't the people making spurious accusations about the sexual proclivities of other ILX posters (without provocation) so you might want to think carefully about the brush with which you'd like to be tarred.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)
Hell, I don't even know where this 'sexual proclivities' bullshit comes from. My question, exactly: "So you'd willingly watch and perhaps derive enjoyment from watching that, Dan?"
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)
Connotations are your friend, Milo.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)
Me: "You okay with that?"You: "Yes."Me: "You'd watch and enjoy it? You'd think nothing of people who did?"You: "No, I wouldn't enjoy it" (which, incidentally, indicates that you're not 'ok' with it but whatever)
It's hard to argue with apathy - you don't care, oooh so cynical, etc.. But in no way did I ever imply that your 'sexual proclivities' ran toward animal crushing fetishism.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)
xp
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)
This does not boil down to the summary "No, I wouldn't enjoy it" (which, incidentally, indicates that you're not 'ok' with it but whatever) but whatever.
(xpost Nabisco you are my hero)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)
(And boy is it a good thing we put the 'welfare of vermin' strawman to bed, isn't it?)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)
That's what I'm talkin' about.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
So, sorry Dan, but I didn't get the same connotations from Milo's question than you did.
FUCKING HELL! I JUST WANTED A THREAD TALKING ABOUT THE SOMEWHAT RARE ANOMALY OF ONE-ON-ONE ARTHROPOD VS. MAMMAL PREDATOR/PREY RELATIONSHIPS IN NATURE -- OUTSIDE A CAGE -- AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JACKING OFF TO VIDEOS OF MICE GETTING CRUSHED, AND FUCKING JANE BADLER!! 'SICK FUCKS' INDEED!
― donut e-goo (donut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)
― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goo (donut), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 16 June 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
OMG. If someone seriously fed Fieval to a big fucking spider I'm going to send that person all of my money.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:33 PM (5 years ago)
― Buff Orpington (Abbbottt), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:47 (fifteen years ago)
Mice are Nature's Popcorn; everything eats them. Start worrying when a tarantula eats a moose.
― Aimless, Sunday, 13 March 2011 02:43 (fifteen years ago)
All those terrible Giant Cobra vs Humungous Wasp movies on SyFy miss an essential point I think - a cobra is scary because it's venomous and a gigantic thing is scary because it's gigantic. Being a gigantic cobra just doesn't add anything. It might as well be a 50 foot earthworm and the same degree of terror wd ensue.
― The north-east's Number 2 children's party magician (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2011 02:46 (fifteen years ago)
Mice are Nature's Popcorn
Popcorn isn't natural? *looks at packet of corn suspiciously*
― StanM, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:51 (fifteen years ago)
a gigantic thing is scary because it's gigantic
As proven conclusively in "Night of the Lepus."
― There's nothing left alive but a pair of ashy thighs (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:55 (fifteen years ago)
...and if the video descriptions are anything to go by, crush fetishists are masochists, not sadists; the idea is to pretend you are the animal, plant, or thing being destroyed.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 14 March 2011 01:23 (fifteen years ago)