men that dont love stripclubs - C or D or psycho or prudeish or just plain weird and prone to creepy tendencies?

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i say all the things after c and d.

mwahah, Monday, 20 June 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

i don't like strip clubs, but not because i'm not a perv, but because i don't like the idea of my pervish tendencies existing in a public place, with all the nudging and winking among fellow guys. it's kinda gross.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 June 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

I think men who REALLY LOVE stripclubs are far creepier and weirder than ones who don't really care.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 20 June 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

that said, i've never actually been to one. i just think it would be uncomfortable.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 June 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

are all these useless threads being started by the same person?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 20 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

theyre not useless threads. i just started them cos im wondering if im a weirdo for not loving strip clubs. i like seeing naked women, i cant lie, but the whole thing about strip clubs makes me think its a bit of a ruse, really. plus, its frustrating!

mwahaha, Monday, 20 June 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

im wondering who thinks that men who dont enjoy strippers are weird the most - men or women?

mwahah, Monday, 20 June 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

you forgot CHEAP. i am a big tipper, which is why i never went to stripclubs. i would have felt obligated to tip too much money that i could have spent on records. i even lived with and dated a stripper for two years and i never went to see her work.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 June 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

if a woman is going to flash her naughty bits for me I reckon I'd prefer that she's doing it because she actually wants to do it, and not because she's getting paid to.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 20 June 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

don't like 'em. don't understand paying someone to strip for you (its like paying someone else to play with your xmas presents and then not let you play with them), don't like mixing sex with commerce, don't like the many humiliations and power plays that go on. i mean, i don't want to ban them or anything, but i wouldn't choose to frequent one.

basically, gear! otm.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 20 June 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

shaved bean right in your eye for $1.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Monday, 20 June 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Having had friends who worked in them and having been in some that were divey and some that were 'swank', I'll say duddish really. Do I like watching attractive, scantily clad young women? Yes. Do I like watching them on the make? No. Do I like overpriced drinks and the sad/scary feeling of sexual frustration mingled with the frightening spectacle of testosterone fueled, brain disengaged, animal insanity of the worst kind of strip club customer? No. A good strip is a thing of beauty if done right, though.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 20 June 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

OMG CHRIS

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 June 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

everyone otm. except scott. i would probably tip standard if i ever went.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 20 June 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

You would THINK that a roomfull of naked women parading around the neon and black lights of some cinnamon-scented smoky room located either on the other side of town or inside the warehouse district would at least be 10% sexually stimulating.

But it's not even the slightest. It's dud for the women, it should be dud for the men, and it's really dud for that DJ who's playing that gawd-awful hair-metal techno mash-up for the thirty-sixth time.

"Would I like to buy my date a drink?" WHO'S PATRONIZING WHO?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 20 June 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

well black strip clubs play good music at least.

the other prob i have with these places is i feel like i might need to tip a lot and its therefore expensive, and thats something i just cant afford.

mwahah, Monday, 20 June 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

"everyone otm. except scott. i would probably tip standard if i ever went."

i just tend to overtip. it comes from my days as a waiter. i'm more reasonable now though. there was this one woman who worked at the coffee bar near where i lived who i was completely in lust over and one day i found out that she also stripped at a club downtown in philly. that was the only time i was ever tempted to go to a strip club. just to watch her shake her ample booty. but i chickened out. i don't like MEN enough to go to a strip club.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

i hear ya.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

i don't like MEN enough to go to a strip club.

haha yes.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Enh. i can take 'em or leave 'em.

The two times that i've been to a strip club that was not part of an otherwise organized event(Santa Rampage, watching a PPV, etc), i've been FAR more interested in one of the women i was with than anybody onstage.

Of course, i now live in the town that has like the high stripper per capita ratio in north america or somesuch...

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Anything tainted with exploitation just isn't sexy, for me. But I'm not a man and I've never been to a stripclub. I once saw a crazy girl strip in an ordinary club, and that was horrible.

Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

kingfish, I must know, what Santa Rampage strip club sojourn did you go on...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 June 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Strip clubs are alright, its just that I dont need to pay money to be sexually frustrated. I get that shit for free.

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Um.

The Ghost of Stripclubs Aren't Necessarily The End Of The World (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

yeah I got no problem with them and couldn't possibly make a value judgement based on a man's like or dislike of them, for real. My dad doesn't like any of that kind of thing (never found any porn in the house when I was growing up, ever), my husband has been to a few strip clubs, they're both great guys with fantastically healthy attitudes toward women, whatever.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

I keep meaning to go with some enthusiasts I know but I never really get the opportunity. i don't like MEN enough to go to a strip club is pretty OTM, I have to admit I'd probably go for a lapdance right away. A friend of mine just got in trouble at a strip club in atlantic city for spanking a stripper with a dollar while screaming "you like that! oh yeah, get the money! work for it!" I find this pretty hysterical cuz it was a ONE DOLLAR BILL. Pimp he ain't.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

He should've used a two-dollar bill. Nearsighted strippers think that they're twenties.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

basically, its totally fine to dislike stripclubs. it is never fine to eat at a strip club.

Fun Fact: did you know that stripclubs in the central florida area are booze free, or at least are booze free if they are fully nude? so if you decide to go to the champagne room you are spending hundreds of dollars for a bottle of sparkling grape juice?

JD from CDepot, Monday, 20 June 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

How much more frustrated can they get you?

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I don't like getting hardons in public places.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

that's no typo.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 20 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I’ve never actually been to a strip club, but I know I’d feel awkward. I have a mate who’s a director and he swears by them, he keeps saying “ I’m gonna take you to one, you’ll love it”. I probably would go, just out of curiosity mainly. He’s told me his boss has paid for lesbian romps at his feet, sounds ok but I’d just come away feeling super sexed up & there’s no way I’m ever paying for it. I rather go out meet a girl and get to see a body I could get a grip of, rather than just watch a pretty girl dance at me.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

"For the most part, you do not go to a strip club to pick up women or, in most clubs, even to touch them. The desires a stripper sets in motion are never meant to be fully satisfied. The dancer's power resides in her function as the cause of desire rather than as the object of desire. Jacques Lacan tell us that the sex act must fail, that 'there is no sexual relationship,' and nowhere is this more true than in a strip club. The dancer on the stage fantasmatically sustains my desire, while at the same time she conceals the fact that genuine pleasure is available only for her. Enjoyment will always first be the dancer's enjoyment of herself; which is to say, the enjoyment of her mastery. You will not have her because she will always possess herself first...

Thus we resign ourselves to getting off on, having a relationship with, the fantasy, never the woman herself. Jean Clavreul, writing about 'the interests of the pervert,' claims that they 'must above all be rigorously of no use, to lead nowhere. Anything validated by the pervert is marked with the seal of uselessness...'

The paradoxical dancer's body is thus a 'zoned' body, organized and marked with paternal signifiers ('dead presidents'), a body whose realness cannot be encountered independent of the symbolics in which it is immersed. The dancer's body is a place of inscription... Hers is a tight body. Strikingly tanned, the naked body appears costumed, sealed armored... The pasties, garters, stockings, satin thongs, shiny shiny boots of leather, heels, gloves, jewelry, piercings, tattoos, lipstick, makeup, hair weaves, wigs, breast implants, neatly trimmed (if not cleanly shaved) pubis, whatever, all serve to turn the body's erogenous zones into eroticized zones, tightly covered with a 'second skin' of mass cultural signifiers... A dancer's body is never really in front of you at all."

--Michael Uebel, "Striptopia," 2004

g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

haha later on he quotes bush (as in "razorblade suitcase")

g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

It just sounds like a recipe for total frustration to me. No fun at all.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

frustration is what you get if you're into it! otherwise it's like watching fast food being made.

g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Never been to one and find the whole thing creepy.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

i'm sexually frustrated enough as it is thankyouverymuch

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I've been to some of the nastiest strip clubs around....club paradi$e in RI comes to mind. As part of a friends bachelor party two years ago, i was quite stunned at the place. downstairs for $20, you get all topless. Upstairs for another $20 butt fucking naked. They have the usual routine going...but then it turns almost into a whorehouse.

All along the sides of the "dancefloor" there are these little booths you can go in for a "private" dance. Basically everyone can watch as a stripper gives you a private lapdance. For $40 you can choose a discreet booth, where no one can see. According to my friend, they basically dry hump you butt naked and you can touch them.

Now for $100...you go in the "backroom" and from what i hear anything goes but fucking. I've heard people have gotten handjobs and blowjobs back there. Quite frankly this is a bit scary.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

yeah, basically many upthread comments cover my attitude. I don't want to spend money on getting blue balls.

Not that I've ever been to one. Curiously, for a while there I was seeing a woman who worked in one - and still never went.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)


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