Gareth, JBR, Elvis Telecom... (a thrad about stephen shore)

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Do you like Stephen Shore?

It seems that all three of you share his aesthetic, somewhat.

http://www.masters-of-photography.com/images/screen/shore/shore_presidio.jpg
http://www.studio-gs.com/images/in-or-out/15c.jpg
http://www.galleryhopper.org/images/stephenshore.jpg
http://www.lomblad.net/rob/archives/blogimages/matrix.jpg
http://essaideblog.canalblog.com/stephen_shore.jpg

― a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

yes, i like stephen shore a lot. i have the uncommon places book. to be honest, i dont really like a lot of photography, because it feels that people are trying to do something with it. i like shore because it doesnt feel like that. and the use of colour at a time when i guess it was still seen as more artistic to use black and white (i hate black and white, other than maybe Renger-Patzsch)

but really, you know, america, 1974. what a great subject!

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

When are you coming out here for your Valley 70s Mexican restaurant experience, Mr. Gareth?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

i dont really like a lot of photography, because it feels that people are trying to do something with it

what does this mean?

― a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

xpost Oddly enough, I prefer Eggleston to Shore (most cliched comparison ever, yeah) precisely because Shore often does seem to be 'trying to do something.' He's much more engaged with traditional photographic technique, '70s landscapes (Robert Adams etc.) and the art world, where Eggleston often reads as more subversive/democratic/spontaneous/in the moment.

That said, the gas station photograph there is incredible.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

gas station/garage, that is

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

im not sure what it means. i think milo sort of said it, in regard to eggleston, that he reads as more subversive. i think i dont like that so much. though i dunno about the spontaneous thing, eggleston seems more stylized than spontaneous

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:30 (twenty years ago)

i dont really like a lot of photography, because it feels that people are trying to do something with it

awesome

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)

i do like shore, from what i've seen of his work. what is that theater in the shot above -- anyone know?

― jody l'anti-vierge (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

if i have an "aesthetic" at all, it's just to document things, esp. old things before they get lost to the past forever. the present doesn't interest me quite as much (unless there's something a little off about the subject); i guess that makes me rockist!

― jody l'anti-vierge (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

those are really nice. i wish i knew more about this crap. i don't think i have that aesthetic, though.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

'70s mcdonald's!

http://www.artnet.com/artwork_images_167990_121883_Stephen-Shore.jpg

― jody l'anti-vierge (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

http://www.hait.ac.il/staff/ShlomoA/Photography/images-archive/new2/StephenShore5th.jpg

― jody l'anti-vierge (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

Sambo's!

― a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

theres a bunch in tucson! speedway blvd, country club rd, tucson blvd, and the gasstation above is at wilkieup,az
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dunno about the theatre

― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 24 June 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

Vega!

Despite the fact that they were mechanically horrible, from all I've heard, those cars were really nice looking.

I was looking at a Shore book just a couple months ago and I remember that Sambo's/Vega one.

― nickn (nickn), Friday, 24 June 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)

i compared gareth to shore in a show im currating, and i think its interesing, because i think that both of their aesthetics comes from a tourist exotica, a view of america, and esp. america being so alien--and im not sure how i feel about that, both of there photos are fucking brilliant and really work the tension between art and document (shore sold post cards of amarillion in amraillo to pay for the second half of his uncommon places tour) and also, i think that the viewing, the scales of the eye viewing of objects redeem them, but it is in that repdemption that i am worried about (do they need to be redeemed, what are the politics of place) which makes their size and where they are located different, and actualyl makes me like gareths more.

eggleston is vastly different because he lived in the place where he shot, he has taken dozens of photographs of what is basically home--and i am not sure that the ilxors, and i know for a fact that shore didnt

how home can you be when you are nomadic?

― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 24 June 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

And coincidently, there is a Stephen Shore exhibit opening at the Hammer Museum in Los Angeles tomorrow.

The Biographical Landscape

― nickn (nickn), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

has the Hammer museum always been pretty interesting or has it gotten better lately? was it just the renovation (?) that got in the way?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

And coincidently, there is a Stephen Shore exhibit opening at the Hammer Museum in Los Angeles tomorrow.

Yeah! That is actually what made me start this thread! I'd like to come down for that and the Basquiat show in one fell swoop.

― a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

stephen shore, along with joel meyerowitz & william eggleston, are the three photographers that have influenced my work the most.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 24 June 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

also wonderful, david graham:

http://www.davidgrahamphotography.com/images/declaringindependence/really_med.jpg

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 24 June 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't the Hammer taken over by UCLA in the last few years? Previously it was run by Armand Hammer's company, I assume, which may have had a stodgier agenda. I don't know the details (in fact I've never been there), but I would think a university would be much better than a corporation at curating.

― nickn (nickn), Friday, 24 June 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

fifteen years pass...

It takes awhile for the conversation to get going, but it's fascinating hearing him talk about framing and changes in camera format affecting the state of being.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIhKqH3eNYU

― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 July 2020 04:50 (five years ago)

He's a must-follow on IG too: https://www.instagram.com/stephen.shore/

― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 July 2020 04:53 (five years ago)

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