Prehensile Penises: Classic or Dud?

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Really - why would you need one?

Chainsaw, Friday, 24 June 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

whales and dolphins have prehensile tools!

ra's al latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

yeah...but WHY?

Chainsaw, Friday, 24 June 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

i dunno, its more fun?

ra's al latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

for pleasuring the lady dolphins/whales?

gem (trisk), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

*slaps forehead*

ra's al latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

*with prehensile penis*

ra's al latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

for anyone interested in dolphin lovemaking...


A male dolphin's member is roughly S-shaped, tapered at the end. If you are in the water with them, it is best to support the dolphin on his side, just under the water, with one hand, and handle him with the other. Male dolphins, I find, tend to prefer the base of the penis to be gently massaged and squeezed, as well as gently rubbed along it's length. It feels very much like the rest of the dolphin (ie. smooth and rubbery to the touch, but firmer). It doesn't take long for the male to ejaculate, around 40 seconds to a minute, and this is usually accompanied by either shuddering just prior to ejaculating, and thrusting and tail-arching during ejaculation. The force of ejaculation can be powerful at times, so it is best to keep your face out of the line of fire, or keep his member underwater. You can attempt to lick and suck on the end of it while masturbating as well, but be warned, do not try to give full throat, and get the hell out of the way before he ejaculates! A male dolphin could snap your neck in an accidental thrust, and that would be the end of that relationship.
http://www.sexwork.com/family/dolphins1.html

Chainsaw, Friday, 24 June 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)


One of the most fascinating things about dolphins, a marine mammal with intelligence and social interactions developed to a comparable level to that of humans, is the possession of a prehensile penis. Simply put, they have a phallus with the capacity to move and shape itself, not unlike the trunk of an elephant. This versatility removed the evolutionary pressure in female dolphins to have a, literally, straight-forward vaginal tract. In fact, as a test of intelligence and dexterity, the interiors of female dolphins' vaginas became increasingly complex. The spermicidal nature of enzymes on the surface of the vaginal canal made it necessary for a male dolphin to navigate his penis through the entire length of the increasingly complex vaginal mazes, allowing himself to ejaculate only in the chamber adjacent to the cervix, the muscular ring that seperates the uterus from the vagina. Thus, only males capable of passing the test of the vaginal maze can impregnate female dolphins and produce progeny.

The above paragraph is entirely false. It is a deception, but an entertaining one. It is also a warning of the capacity that one with a certain degree of technical knowledge has to deceive others. Be wary and always think about what is told to you. Gullibility makes evolutionary sense in children, who cannot learn all the hard lessons of life for themselves, but not in adults who can fall prey to hoodwinking. Incidentally, while vaginal mazes are a construct of my perverse imagination, male dolphins DO have prehensile penises. It was, in fact, that interesting anatomical tidbit that fostered the entire idea of a vaginal maze.

There would be no evolutionary pressure towards systems that make it more difficult for an individual to reproduce unless those systems generated a much higher percentage of young capable, in turn, of reproducing. Since penis dexterity is not an important survival characteristic for dolphins, a mating system based on selection of this skill of dubious merit would not make evolutionary sense. Instead, the current social system in which intelligent, capable dolphins who occupy leadership roles within the pod have the majority of children, makes perfect evolutionary sense, as one would expect from a product of evolution.

Semisane

ra's al latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

i still think its weird/creepy

Chainsaw, Friday, 24 June 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

the fact that they have prehensile penises or the piece above about how to get a dolphin off?

gem (trisk), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

from Wikipedia:

Most marsupials, except for the two largest species of kangaroos, have a bifurcated penis. That is, it separates into two columns, and so the penis terminates in two ends. The barnacle has the longest penis for its own length: up to twenty times the length of the animal. It is popularly believed that the dolphin has prehensile control over his penis, but this is an urban legend.

The Icelandic Phallological Museum is devoted entirely to collecting penis specimens from all the land and sea mammals living in Iceland. The museum has received a legally-certified gift token for a future specimen belonging to Homo sapiens.
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ra's al latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)

well, both.

Chainsaw, Friday, 24 June 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

http://www.prehensile.com/tales/penissize/penissize.htm

Misleading Proportions:
The Perils of Penis Measuring

http://www.prehensile.com/tales/penissize/fresco.jpg

Knowing where to measure from is the key to good penis measuring. I was either a god or a gelding, and it all depended on the measuring technique I used. Of course, admitting to measuring your own penis isn't exactly the fastest way to make friends in junior high. We all know that real men aren't concerned about penis size, right? Heck no. We don't masturbate either.

Heh. There is a word for people who never stressed about the size of their penis: "female."

In an informal poll of my friends, all of them measured their penises during their formative years. Then again, each of them also said they were in excess of 10 throbbing inches. So maybe they're not the most reliable group. And I guess it goes to show that penis-insecurity never fully goes away.

But it's never as bad as it was in junior high.

When I measured, I was either just below average or a porn-star candidate, depending on if I measured from top or bottom. And even though all my peers had laid rod to ruler, no one ever discussed proper measuring technique. So how is a developing young man to ease his penis-size fears?

Why, by stealing glances in the men's room, of course! Now this is a very risky endeavor. Getting caught looking at your classmates' genitalia tends to stir up the homophobia a bit. And being labeled homosexual can be even more harsh a junior high fate than being labeled a dick-measurer.

I perfected a crack-my-neck stretch that gave me a split second peek at other man-units. I'd settle into my urinal, utter a manly sigh, crack my neck, and glance over the partition. Results: Inconclusive.

The main problem is that the perspective you get of another guy's manhood that way is totally different than the view you get of your own. Its side view vs. top view. You practically need architectural drawings to figure out what they would look like side by side. I tried to stand sideways next to a mirror to see my own penile unit from the same angle I was collecting data from. There are just too many variables: Pubic hair can obscure, Excessive girth can give misleading proportions, and what if the member in question has a curve to it?! Do you use pi or the Pythagorean Theorem?

Besides, the big guys stand far enough away as to show it off, while the small guys huddle into the porcelain. So much for the scientific method.

So then, how does one get over penis-size insecurity? Truth? No study of penis size will ever solve the dilemma. Eventually, though, you find a partner. That person cares about you. They like the freckles on your nose and the mole next to your navel. And they like your penis, too. Maybe they'll even measure it as part of some foreplay game. Only then, you'll realize that the cliché is true: Size doesn't matter.

Of course, I wonder if I'd be saying that if they'd let me measure from the bottom.

ra's al latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

Dolphin Anatomy
Dolphin Anatomy and Sexual Behavior FAQ Version 2 By Flypper Hello, my name is Flypper. I've been a "zoo" for 15 years and I'm "zoo exclusive" which means, the only life partners I'm interested in are non-human. I presently have relationships with Atlantic Bottelnosed Dolphins and equines, so I'm not monogamous. I care for all animals but dolphins have always held a special place in my heart.

I'm also a vegetarian. I'm writing this FAQ because I've noticed a lack of information, on the web, regarding human/dolphin relationships. Please let me know of any other FAQ's, essays, or stories you may know about. I'm basing these questions and answers on questions I've been asked, as well as observations I've made and questions I've asked myself while learning about my partners, while they also learn about me. All of my experiences have been with Atlantic Bottelnosed Dolphins *Tursiops truncatus*, so my answers may skew toward them. Feel free to e-mail me with any other questions, comments or constructive criticisms you may have.

I've received comments from 2 anonymous delphic zoos and I've made some revisions based on those. I've also added a glossary of terms, it appears that not all zoos use the same terminology for the dolphin's behavior and anatomy that I do. The glossary was added to avoid confusion.
Glossary
A) Afterslit

This is another name for the dolphin's anus.

Their anus is just below the male's genital slit, or at the bottom of the female's genital slit. B) Genital Slit- When I refer to the genital slit, I'm referring to the exposed opening that you see on a dolphin's belly near the tail. It is not a reference to the actual urogenital or penile opening.

C) "Pec Check"

This is a reference to a per-copulatory behavior, usually performed by a male dolphin just prior to an attempt at penetration. Not to be confused with pec petting or rubbing.

D) Pec Petting/Rubbing

This is a common social behavior, performed by dolphins. They will swim along side a companion and actually pet or rub them with their pec flipper or tail fluke. They may even insert these body parts into their partner's genital slit to pleasure them.

E) Peduncle

This is the section of their body that starts just behind the dorsal fin and ends where it meets with their tail fluke. The peduncle is very muscular, the genital slit is located on the underside of the peduncle.

F) Pleasuring

A better term for masturbating.

G) Sheath

I refer to the "pocket" that contains a dolphin's penis, when it's retracted, as the sheath. If you have a better term, that I haven't already used please let me know.
Q1: How do you tell a male dolphin from a female?
A1: If you look at the ventral, or belly, side of a dolphin you will see a series of slits near the base of the peduncle, or tail (not to be confused with the "tail fluke"). A male dolphin has one long slit followed by a short slit, or afterslit. The long slit contains the penile opening. The penis is connected to the "extensor muscle". The afterslit is the anus. Females have one long slit with two smaller slits on either side. The long slit contains the clitoris, vaginal opening, and anus. The anus is in the lower end of the slit. The two smaller slits are the mammary slits, these contain the teats. When a calf nurses, the mother will squirt the milk from one of the two slits right into the calves mouth.
Q2: Where are the dolphins sex organs located in relation to the genital slit?
A2: In both cases the genitals are located in the middle of the slit. As I stated earlier, a dolphin's penis is connected to the extensor muscle. I'm personally not sure what the job of the extensor muscle is when the penis is retracted and the 2 zoos that contacted me have differing opinions, so I'm printing both of their opinions and you can decide for yourselves. One opinion is that the extensor muscle is not required to keep the penis retracted, while the other opinion is that it is used to keep it retracted. In both cases they agree that the muscle is what gives them such wonderful control, it was even mentioned that a dolphins penis works similarly to a bovine (or bull) penis. I've had no bovine experience, so I can't say if that's true or not. The extensor muscle also helps in erection by bunching up behind the base of the penis, holding it out during mating. The penile opening is in the center of the genital slit. The clitoris and vaginal opening are also in the center of the genital slit. The mammary slits are just above the vaginal opening. They can be used as a visual target when pleasuring or mating with your partner.
Q3: Do dolphins know where our sex organs are right away or do they need to learn?
A3: Most of the dolphins I've had relations with, didn't understand the differences in our plumbing. I take that back, one did but she was very young and hadn't developed her mating habits yet {no I didn't penetrate her, and yes she initiated it}. But for the most part, an amorous dolphin will be fixated on your legs. They stare at and nudge your knees in particular, unless the dolphin has "been" with a person before. I believe the reason they stare at your knees is: If you were built like a dolphin, your genitals would be around your knees. Over time they will learn the proper locations of your equipment.
Q4: Can a dolphin use its tongue for oral sex?
A4: If a man wants to risk fellatio with 88-100 cone shaped teeth, then maybe. Their are no teeth (large ones any way) in the very front of a bottlenose dolphins mouth, but I doubt I'll ever try it. They can spit water at you and rub various parts of their bodies on you to incite an erection. As one of the zoos who contacted me said "They like to pleasure as much as they like to receive". The majority of a dolphins tongue is attached to the mouth.

So it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible for a dolphin to perform cunnilingus on a woman. However, they can do about the same thing with their rostrum, pec flippers, or other appendages.
Q5:Do dolphins like to have oral sex performed on them?
A5: I've found that some dolphins get nervous, if you stimulate them in a way that they are not accustomed to {unless they are VERY amorous}. As long as you have a strong bond with them they are usually willing to try anything. The dolphins I've been with seem to enjoy it. Males included, however their penises have usually still been inside the sheath with just the tip sticking out. Both of the zoos who contacted me have had pleasurable oral experiences with fins who were familiar with them. In other words don't try it with a non-familiar fin, on the first date.
Q6: Is it true that a dolphin's penis is prehensile?
A6: The penis of an aroused dolphin is painfully rigid. A male dolphin nearly dislocated my knee, while I was allowing him to pleasure himself on me. Most of the times I've seen a dolphin's penis have been during sexual arousal, so the penis has been pointing in the same direction, toward the dolphin's head and slightly to the left. When it is erect, the only flexible part is the tip. They will hook it on objects in order to pleasure themselves. Most of the time their penis is close to their body, but they can push the head of it away from their body to hook large objects {like a leg}. However I have been informed, that when not aroused they can use their penises for other activities. A male bottlenose dolphin can curve the last 3 inches of their 12 inch penis around something with a diameter of at least 1 inch. The dolphins penis is all muscle (a very strong one I might add), not vascular like a human penis. The reddish color is due to increased blood flow to underlying capillary vesicles near the surface. I still wouldn't consider this to be prehensile.
Q7: What does a dolphin's penis look like?
A7: It is tapered. It starts out thick and gets narrow toward the tip. When aroused, it is still tapered but it flattens out a little. A groove forms down the center and the thin end curves back to form the characteristic "hook". It'll change color from mottled pink to an almost red depending on how aroused they are. It is also very long, 12 inches on average for the bottlenose dolphin. Spotted dolphins are about 10 inches, common dolphins are about 9 inches, and Commerson's dolphins are the smallest at about 5 inches or less. Dolphins rarely extend the full length of their penises.
Q8: Do dolphins only mate belly to belly?
A8: No {finally, a direct answer}. I've seen video of Spotted Dolphins mating belly to belly, but I've never witnessed this with Atlantic Bottlenose Dolphins. From what I've seen, the female will float on her side at the surface. The male will then slowly slide under her, going from ventral side to dorsal. If the female hasn't jumped off the males belly, the male will get an erection and insert it into the female. At this point, the female usually has her mouth open and her eyes closed. The male will thrust several times, then pull out and swim away. If there are no other males waiting to mate the female will slowly roll over and swim off with the other dolphins. This is how the dolphins, I've observed, mate. The intensity of the mating may vary depending on other environmental factors ie: multiple males, the female's willingness to mate, and so on.
Q9: How long, after penetration, does it take for a male dolphin to climax?
Q9: Here I have good news and bad. First the good news: In a few minutes, he may be ready to go again. Now the bad: A dolphin can consider himself a major STUD, if he lasts an average of 12 seconds. I've seen males ejaculate before they even touch anything with their penis. They can last up to around a minute, if gently pleasured by a human hand.
Q10: Does the vagina of a dolphin always contract after penetration?
A10: Yes, for the most part, but sometimes they like to let you do all the work. That goes for pleasuring as well as mating. I was reminded by another zoo that if a female doesn't want to participate, they can contract their vaginal muscles tight enough that nothing could penetrate them. The other zoo also pointed out, that a female can do a lot more than just contract their vaginal muscles. By expanding their upper vaginal muscles they can emulate sucking and blowing. They can also ripple the muscles vaginal canal both upwards and downwards, in a milking motion.
Q11: How can you tell if a dolphin is amorous?
A11: There are a few different things they do when they are amorous. They may do one or all of these things. I'll break them down to make it easier.

a) Floating - That's what I call it when they float at the surface totally relaxed. So relaxed in fact that they'd let you tow them around their pool all day and be as happy as a clam about it. They may have their eyes open or closed, depending on how aroused they are. Usually their mouths are slightly open. Their bodies may occasionally convulse as if they were dozing off then waking up again. Females will most often assume this posture, but males will too if they're in the mood to be on the receiving end. They will allow you to insert your fingers, penis, tongue, or what ever when they are in this frame of mind.

b) Mouthing - Dolphins consider this sensual and arousing. They will place various body parts in their mouths and rub their teeth, and occasionally their tongues, across said body parts. They can be gentle, but more often then not its rough. The dolphins will sometimes rake their teeth across their partner's skin, leaving "rake marks" {a telltale sign of your activities}. The male dolphins I've had experiences with occasionally will rake their partners, if they feel they're not being receptive enough.

c) Nudging/Buzzing - A dolphin will do this with their mouths closed. They'll rub their rostrum or bottlenose on various body parts. The parts they choose are where they think your erogenous zones are. They will usually emit high frequency sounds while nudging, it almost sounds like a buzzing bee. This can sometimes be a sign of frustration and an immanent rake mark, but I have not experienced this myself.

d) Masturbating (Pleasuring)- This should be self explanatory. The males will try to "hook" you with their penis. The females will try to insert various appendages into their genital slit.

e) Pec Check - This is a precopulatory behavior. Not to be confused with pec petting or rubbing, a common social behavior. Dolphins use this as a way to see how receptive their partner may be as well as a way to tactually locate the genital slit prior to mating, sort of a "phin alignment guide". They will swim by their perspective partner, reach out with an appendage {pectoral flipper, dorsal fin, or edge of their tail fluke}, and attempt to insert it into their partner's genital slit {or crotch as the case may be}. If the appendage goes in easily, then their partner may be ready to mate. If not, then more foreplay may be required.

f) Pink Belly - Most dolphins will get very pink on their bellies, particularly in the genital area, when they are aroused. This can be a definite indicator of sexual readiness. However, keep in mind, skin color can vary from dolphin to dolphin, or whale to whale. They may have a pinkish tint naturally and may not be aroused at all.
Q12: How can I let a dolphin know that I'm amorous?
A12: The most important thing you can remember is: Don't force yourself on them, get to know them. They will let you know when they are ready, you have to learn their body language and behavior. Experiment a little, see where they like to be touch. Just because they are promiscuous by nature, doesn't mean that they're always ready to mate. Rub them all over a lot.

In the immortal words of John Cleese, "Try starting out with a kiss.

Don't STAMPEDE right for the clitoris!".

As far as I'm concerned, the relationship is far more important to me then the possibility of sex. Be there for your partners all you can, no matter what the species. Do what ever is in your power to make their lives wonderful and chances are they'll do the same for you in return. I hope this was informative and helpful. As I said feel free to e-mail me anytime, flypper@hotmail.com.

Acknowledgements: I'd like to thank the zoo's who took the time and effort to read my original FAQ and send their opinions back to me. I feel we have a lot to learn from each other's experiences and one can never know everything. Flypper "Normal is what everyone else is {or so they think}, and I"m knot." "Here's to swimmin with bow legged {tailed} dolphins" flypper@hotmail.com

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ra's al latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

good lord i'm sorry about that, y'all.

ra's al latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

new thread: which ilxor has the biggest dolphin porn collection?

gem (trisk), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

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ra's al latebloomer: not a dolphin lover, honest (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

hey, ive been looking for that site for awhile - my friend was talking about it the other day but said it had been removed bc of animal rights activists or something.

i think their actions are misguided though- if people are going to have sex with animals i say they should be well informed with the proper methods of going about it.

Chainsaw, Friday, 24 June 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

example:

DO NOT attempt to penetrate a goose! You WILL kill it!

Chainsaw, Friday, 24 June 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

'the proper methods of going about it'?? i.e., the methods sanctioned by the animals themselves?

gem (trisk), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

methods to make it the most enjoyable experience possible for all involved parties i believe.

Chainsaw, Friday, 24 June 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm also a vegetarian.

thanks for telling us this!

cheeses haitch christ (haitch), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

So, is someone going to cut & paste "How to make love to big cats"? I mean WTF? Does it say "this is a tricky manouvre which should only be attempted after you have achieved everything in life that you could ever want to OMG DON'T DO IT YOU WILL DIE YOU MENTALIST!!!1!!!!!!one!!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

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Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)


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