people who dont like going to noisy bars and clubs

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im not an eager dancer these days so clubs arent my thing anymore, still like bars, just not ultra noisy ones. i must be getting old. i cant be alone though. surely?! actually i just dont like these places cos the presure i feel to be on the pull and the dissapointment when you walk out not having pulled, that sucks.

― um, Sunday, 26 June 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

Pussy.

― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 June 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

Through all the different phases of my life (single, not-single, social, not-social, etc.) I've never particularly liked really noisy bars. If you're not dancing, what's the point of sitting with people and not being able to hear them talk? So, I say, people who don't like noisy bars = people who like talking = classic.

― nory (nory), Sunday, 26 June 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

I wish their were more bars quiet enough to have a conversation without being so quiet you can hear the air conditioner buzzing.

― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 26 June 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't have a particularly booming voice, and so when I talk loudly I have to almost scream and my voice goes up an octave or two. And when you're yelling in such a way, putting effort into merely talking, it makes you think you should only say things that are either very important or very funny. If you're in the middle of a trio, you spend a great deal of time serving as a relay. "he said what did you do today"..."huh" "WHAT DID YOU DO TODAY, HE SAID" etc

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 26 June 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

I don't like going to noisy bars or clubs. Thus I find it totally classic.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 26 June 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

i won't stay for long in a bar that has nowhere free to sit and i won't enjoy a club that has no room on thedance floor.
I'd rather a bar/club was completely empty than super busy

― Slumpman (Slump Man), Sunday, 26 June 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

i can't hear what ppl are saying in even moderately noisy pubs

also i can never recognise what's on the jukebox

my hearing is 20/20 otherwise (except when i get waxy build up and spook doom-e)

on our planet we use a different aural waveband spectrum for voice and song recognition, apparently

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 June 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

clumsy grammar implies i come from the same off-world civilisation as doom-e!! perhaps i do!!!

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 26 June 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

i avoid bars on the weekends unless my plan is to get drunk, which doesn't happen that much anymore. dance clubs or shows, that's another matter. but in L.A., it's pretty tough to find a bar where you can hold down a pleasant conversation if you're there after 11pm.

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Sunday, 26 June 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

"I don't have a particularly booming voice, and so when I talk loudly I have to almost scream and my voice goes up an octave or two. And when you're yelling in such a way, putting effort into merely talking, it makes you think you should only say things that are either very important or very funny. If you're in the middle of a trio, you spend a great deal of time serving as a relay. "he said what did you do today"..."huh" "WHAT DID YOU DO TODAY, HE SAID" etc"

OTM!

― um, Sunday, 26 June 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

people who go to noisy bars and clubs and then want to sit down and converse = dud, for all reasons listed above which can be condensed to I CAN'T HEAR YOU
people who go to noisy bars and clubs and head straight for the dancefloor to communicate in body language = classic

I'm always disappointed in people who act like they're really excited to be going out then choose option a.

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 26 June 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

some people just like the music though but dont wanna dance....

― ppp, Sunday, 26 June 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

i'll never understand the appeal of a Really busy dancefloorless bar. You can't chat, you can't dance, you can't even drink all that much because the queue at the bar is 10 rows deep. where's the fun? To me it's like being right at the front of a sold out gig except one where there's no band coming on

― Slumpman (Slump Man), Sunday, 26 June 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

Some people dont have much to say but need a place to show off their haircut/clothes/phone whatever these bars cater for that market as there's no pressure to talk to anyone else, also the louder/taller you are the better so if you happen to be very loud and tall the few sentences you manage to scream at people (possibly girls) are all the more effective. So basically you can get by by being tall, loud and wearing expensive hair for example an ironic mullet and clothes maybe a pink rugby style shirt and pre stressed jeans with some gold jewlery, getting very drunk on wkd or smirnoff ice staring at a tv screen showing pop videos or sports.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Sunday, 26 June 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Then, when asked, you can list your interests as "going out" and "sports".

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Sunday, 26 June 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

what you need is a good social club. preferably one with 70s decor AND clientele. i recommend RAF/VFWs. classic.

― dahlin (dahlin), Sunday, 26 June 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Stupidly loud bars defintely dud, especially when there's a group of say 8 of you round a big table and you can only converse with the two people sat either side of you and inevitably Sod's law applies and you end up sitting next to someone who wants to tell you about his new car or this classic but of DIY he did last weekend or even worse insists on showing you blurred cameraphone shots of the holiday they went on last month* and so on and so on DUD DUD DUD

*obv classic when he presses wrong button and shows you naked photo of his girlfriend

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Sunday, 26 June 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

yes

― dahlin (dahlin), Sunday, 26 June 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

one prob with noisy places, other than feeling the need to say something really IMPORTANT is that its sometimes hard even to be funny cos you dont know if the other person will be able to hear your joke.

― ppp, Sunday, 26 June 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

They will hear part of it and ask for repeats, ruining any humour that might have been extant.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Sunday, 26 June 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

bars* are the worst mutant offspring between clubs and pubs. bar culture is surely the worst thing to hit the uk. bars per se are not a bad thing, but as the british import things so cack handedly, they are doomed to failure in britain. stick to pubs i say. what is it about friday and saturday that means any establishment cranks the volume way beyond conversation levels?
a database of pubs and bars that are empty enough or quiet enough at weekends to go out in at the weekend is vital:

a) the washington, devonshire green, sheffield. this is on the edge, but compared to adjoining establishments, it is heaven in the city centre.

*in the uk

― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 26 June 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

So we all hate them (me too, conversation is hard enough normally, but when you're shouting everything and still missing every second sentence, fuck that) - so who actually *populates* them??

― Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 26 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

You all do, or else you wouldn't bear this grudge.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Sunday, 26 June 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

un-noisy bars means un-populated bars means less cute boys to stare at means dud.

― phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 26 June 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

I am going more and more deaf, so noisy anything is just utter rubbish to me. :-(

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

Ambrose: The Washington is always maxed out at weekends!, or it used to be - last time I was there they were running out of beer, fast, and didn't seem to know where the next lot was coming from. Financial difficulties, apparently. Which is a shame. But that's why I favour the Rutland, which falls into your category above also.

― myopic_void (myopic_void), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

ok well last time i went into the old bar bit and it was fine on a saturday. only been to the rutland once, isnt it legendarily roisin murphys favourite pub in shef?

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

I am also going quite deaf and hate dancing, so I'd much rather go somewhere nice and quiet.

― Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

poor old sods

― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Part of me feels pathetic, but a larger part doesn't care less.

― Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

The way I was physically constructed, in terms of high-volume projection and comprehension components, makes me sometimes think it is my genetical directive to go to noisy bars and clubs. That being said, I generally have a better time in be-christmas-lighted hippie barns and backyards and on barges on lakes and stuff than I do in bars and clubs.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

do you often find yourself on barges?

― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

My hearing is pretty terrible, so completely classic.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

i have to spend a fair amount of time in noisy places, but it does get irritating. i'm seriously considering trying to find an ear trumpet. do you think ebay might have some?

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

everyone who said classic is so OTM it hurts my ears.

we DO need social clubs, 70's style. I'm always looking for good lounges. In Boston, the Noir bar is pretty good, but drinks are madly overpriced, if tasty.

Bukowski's is the worst offender ever in terms of noise. it could be empty in there on a tuesday afternoon and the music would still be too loud to hear someone talking from across the table.

― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4067&item=6189016884&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

once i hit 25 the novelty of bar hopping wore off. i may go out to a bar once in six months. and clubs...never, unless its to see a show.

― Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

do you often find yourself on barges?

Not nearly often enough!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, I want an ear trumpet AND a monocle!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Basically everybody OTM. Who wants to repeat everything 3 times while quickly losing their voice? Although alex has a point:

people who go to noisy bars and clubs and head straight for the dancefloor to communicate in body language = classic

Yes. This can be lots of fun as long as the music is decent.

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 27 June 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Totally Classic. Am a little deaf myself (TOO MUCH LOUD MUSIC AS A YOUNGSTER IN LOUD BARS/PUBS!) if you want to have a conversation a nice quiet bar/pub is far better than a loud place. Dancing, that's a different matter, but now that I am old and frumpy no dancing lately. Dance scene in LA is not for my demographic.

― Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...

i was just thinking the other day why would a bar even consider cranking up the volume to 11. with all the arguments above.

maybe they just do it because everybody else does it! or maybe they are really into music and just wanted everyone to hear (but surely you don't need to proclaim your love of chart hits?).

i dunno! the most probably explaination i could come up with was that maybe in a 1 to 1 pulling perspective a loud place is good because: 1. if you have little to say repeating things 4 times would make 15 minute's worth of conversation last an hour. 2. you can't hear each other well so naturally you stand/sit closer together and then you let the pheromones do the talking.

and so a surefire winner! i don't really know though. i hate noisy bars.

it's crap in a group environment (e.g. work) except for that you can sneak off easily because nobody would hear you say bye anyway. the worst thing though really is that most of these places are usually also the places with the unbelievably expensive drinks.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:10 (twenty years ago)

because they don't want you to talk, they want you to spend money. if conversation is hard you'll spend more time drinking so you'll want another drink quicker.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Plus the bar staff are so bored they quite like listening to music while they work

― TS: Mick Ralphs vs. Ariel Bender (Dada), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Usually, it's not the bar, or the PA or anything like that - but idiot DJs who believe that what they are playing is SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than anything you could possibly be saying to each other that they pump it up loud.

― Bernard's Summer Girlfriend (kate), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:31 (twenty years ago)

If i'm pissed and talking complete bollocks anyway then this is probly a good thing, for everyone.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:33 (twenty years ago)

loud music helps me distinguish between being out and being at home.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:33 (twenty years ago)

that's kind of worrying.

as to the DJ thing - this can be the case for places with DJs.. but some chain bars (something like 'lettuce and slugs' or something) have music way loud and it's just a 'this is what i call music 29' being played on repeat! But then again i guess it could be the bar staff thinking that TIWICM29 is very important (it's conceivable!)

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)

i go to bars and complain about the music being too loud, then when i do dj in bars (rarely) i turn the music up way too loud! DUD

― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I consider Terrastock to be a three-day bar event with a superior quality of bar band.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:09 (twenty years ago)

i went to a 'bar' in london's fashionable east end, and, well, long story short 1) it was horrible 2) very loud 3) like 1997 in that bitch.

― 25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:12 (twenty years ago)

i went to this one that is just off brick lane once.. i think maybe on a friday, and it was like being on the tube, except with really loud music and you won't get out of it for 4 hours rather than 30 minutes.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

and the people more obnoxious.

i went to another one another time though, and it was nice. but then again we sat outside.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

that's where i went ken! no word of a lie. insanely narrow, but with people dancing anyway.

― 25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 07:38 (twenty years ago)

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