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― Another Allnighter (sexyDancer), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)
Double dipping is gross. No, really.
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
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― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)
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― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)
You mean like the ability to do really long kegstands?
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)
nothing drives me more crazy than when a person doesn't pitch in to conversation. i know a girl who i really like, but i have this problem with her. sometimes she just sits there, it's like i'm working my ass off, and she is deadpan. i'm like ... really? nothin'? gets me CRAZY.
― surm, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
nothing drives me more crazy than subliminal pressure to pitch in to conversation! i have a lot of mental dead ends, i'm slow, sorry if a few minutes of silence makes you uncomfortable.
― ah, how quaint (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
if anything i do the opposite of pressure people when it comes to social interaction -- i end up pressuring myself. i just think it's really considerate for both parties to take part in filling the silence. in a lot of social situations a few minutes of silence is uncomfortable.
― surm, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
turn-taking in conversation is a learned skill -- not everyone has learned it to the same degree
― Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
^^^
― dayo, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
i have trouble talking on the phone for this reason -- without visual cues, i can't see when it's my turn, so i can't ever tell when i should be talking or if the other person is still going or what
but i am a noted motormouth/blabberwocky :(
― Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
YES THIS. If you're sitting on a porch looking at a sunset or both have a magazine or w/e then of course there's no problem, but facing each other across a cafe table in a social situation, what is one meant to DO with silences?? Stare over your companion's shoulder? Stir your coffee 100x? If you could smoke in establishments, this would be taken care of but now there's nothing to do with your hands anymore.
― WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversation_analysis
― Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
i have started to learn to pace myself when it comes to talking with the girl in question. if she does not offer much, i try and just let the moment lie as opposed to rushing in with a fix. it's tough.
― surm, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
i don't really approach this topic prescriptively, aside from trying to fix my own problems with normal conversation, but it's interesting to note the differences in people's pragmatic/sociolinguistic competence in their native language vs L2 (or other learned language) (ie approach it more descriptively)
― Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
what is one meant to DO with silences??
drink
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
otm
also, option of making an comment about a person or object in the surrounding area
― double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
ask a question
― Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
i'm definitely a question-asker, sometimes to a fault. frikkin sally jesse over here
― surm, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
but yeah, i think about social skills a lot at my workplace, esp. the question of turn taking. everyone here tends to talk as much as possible, nonstop. if you transcribe what they say at meetings, it would contain no periods. and i guess the reason is that anytime anyone pauses for even half a second, someone else interjects and then it's impossible to speak again for at least half an hour (unless you in turn interrupt them). it's a terrible example of game theory where everyone drifts toward the worst case solution in their own self-interest.
― double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
everyone here tends to talk as much as possible
lol we sit in cubicles next to each other and communicate largely via im
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
ZS you have just described my workplaceit's painful sometimes
― Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
i think i want conversations to go smoothly, but when they turn from generic pleasantries to something that requires a bit of engagement and the person i'm talking to is someone i just... don't want to engage with, then, you know. silence in that situation does make me extremely uncomfortable and i'll do just about anything to physically remove myself, with no excuse even. makes it worse that i'm usually the cause of the silence! lately i've been trying to engage with/relate to a wider variety of people so i can get better at this, because it causes me a lot of anxiety and makes parties/meeting new people painful and exhausting instead of refreshing and fun.
the kind of silence i love is the kind of silence Laurel is talking about, where it's mutually comfortable -- either you've both talked enough that you can't think of anything else to talk about, or there is something else to engage with, or you're just ok being quiet for a few minutes. i've known a few people who can't deal with natural lulls like that and it is SO GRATING.
― ah, how quaint (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
silence always means something when you're *with* someone and it can be really uncomfortable when one party doesn't know what it means, or one party knows what it means but they want to keep it under wraps?
― ah, how quaint (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
i am a question asker, to the point that i've been told it seems like i'm interrogating... sorry, i'm JUST CURIOUS!!
usually, though, people are totally game to blab about themselves
― homosexual II, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:18 (fourteen years ago)