im sick of reading, hearing and thinking about sex - possible remedies?

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mainly just cos i havent had any in three months. this sucks. cant stop thinking of doing it with my ex-gf but couldnt possibly suggest doing it for old times sake as i dont want to confuse her or make things worse between us. obviously i simply need to have sex but its not that easy to find a bed partner in modern london. or is it?

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

Pay a tart if all you want is sex. Quite easy to find in King's Cross, I believe.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 27 June 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Masturbate more. Duh.

Three months is the worst. When you start to hit about six months, you will calm down again.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

no, i dont want to see a hooker, never have never will, although im starting to see why men do. and why i might, if forced. hopefully not though.

i dont want to have it merely 'calm down' in six months!

i would have thought women can find sex much more easily if and when they feel the need. all they have to do is pick up a guy they like, most guys are pretty easy going in that respect.

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

you don't sound easy going. you sound anxious. it's a big turnoff.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

im actually pretty laid back. although yes as of late i am anxious. it is true. regrettably. its hard to alwys maintain full composure though.

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Get chemical castration, then.

Or maybe stop thinking about sex purely as process and women purely as sperm recepticles and you might actually get a girlfriend.

OK, I'm going to get off this thread now.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

sexless - it's the easiest thing in the world to find a sexual partner in london. that is, if all you want is sex.

and maybe that's all it comes down to in the end, beasts of the field etc., but i like to preserve the illusion that there's more to it than that.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Watch Big Brother, that'll put you off sex (and humanity) for good

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Or Where The Heart Is.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

a.k.a Where Old Television Stars Go To Die

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

i dont think women are merely sperm recepticles, thank you very much. if i did, i would see a hooker.

i like to think theres more to sex than just sex for its own sake as well, ive only ever had sex with girls ive been in relationships with if im totally honest. i cant help thinking im somewhat alone in this old fashioned approach though and wish i could think like other men seem to and just go out there and find a fuck buddy. how satisfying i would find this though, i have no idea. anyway, im probably going to leave this thread too now.

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

It's all fine 'till the guilt sets in.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

I cannot honestly understand how someone can be THAT desperate for sex after only a few months. I have to assume its a guy thing. I just dont understand the urgency.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

I have to assume its a guy thing.

can this fucking stop already? please?

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Well, to be honest, it sounds like you're looking for something more than "just sex" then. Especially because you've been talking about obsessive "thinking about your ex gf" rather than obsessive "thinking about [generic sex fantasy figure]"

FWIW, I think the "fuck buddy" thing is a myth. OK, sure, there will be half a dozen people who will stand up on ILX and talk about how they once had one, or their friend had one.

But I think that wanting a "fuck buddy" rather than "a relationship" is a way of trying to insulate oneself from being emotionally involved and/or hurt. Which is pretty much emotionally impossible for most people when you are talking about human beings and sex.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

NB I am not to be listened to in this regard anyway, as I am a strangely asexual bore these days, my poor b/f.

xpost: Jim, I do generally think as a rule men are FAR more driven by, and to, sex than women are, dont you? as a GENERAL rule.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

Also Kate is otm with the more than just sex thing.

Also, geez Jim, what up?

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

three months single, and the sex might be the thing i miss the least. its everything else that's missing, gaping, is all.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Bingo.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

three months single, and the sex might be the thing i miss the least. its everything else that's missing, gaping, is all.

OTM

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Stevie OTM. x-post

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

after laura died i went into two stupid relationships that i shouldn't have gone into, and in retrospect it was clear that neither of my "partners" really had anything in common with me, or vice versa; it basically came down to great sex, but once you've done that, where else do you go? and i ended up in just as much of a state as previously. not recommended.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

maybe its because i know i *could have sex, if i wanted, and was willing to cross the line in a couple of friendships (which i'm not). but the stuff that gnaws away at me now is anything but the sex (which is weird, because sex was a part of why we broke up). and the closest thing i have to a relationship right now, the person i would actually want to be with if it was ever possible, is someone i couldn't even casually sleep with, even if we wanted to (geographical difficulties). and someone with whom i'd want all the 'other stuff', perhaps more than the sex itself.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

ps maybe its because i know i *could have sex, if i wanted does not mean because i know i am hot stuff, in case anyone thought that.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

sex isnt the thing i miss the least (hot sex IS great, especially great when its with someone you care about!) but i miss lots of things in conjunction with it, like sleeping together (literally as in lying in bed together and being close with her), embracing, just touching each other really, and general affection like that. so perhaps masonic boom is right. i should prob stop wanting to be the type of guy who can have casual carefree sex. thats not really me.

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

i'm sick of typing words on a computer screen - possible remedies?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Do some work!

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Get one magic marker.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

i should prob stop wanting to be the type of guy who can have casual carefree sex. thats not really me.

i think there is a pressure in our society to be that guy, beyond the simple desire for sex. i remember being shocked when i started as a writer, by the macho attitude of fellow music journalists on junkets to other towns, who were looking to shag away from home and boast about it as soon as they could.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

In that case you probably need some advanced wanking techniques, because a new proper partner who will be good for you and vice versa probably isn't going to turn up immediately, and sexual frustration would be a really bad reason to get into something short-lived and likely to end painfully.

xpost, you wouldn't have thought one sentence would take that long to type eh?

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

xpost to steve m-

get a typewriter?

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

if you want sex AND affection then your best bet is probably putting loads of time and effort into Those Dating Websites, thus enabling you to identify people you share interests with and may be able to establish rapport with etc. The odds of this working successfully are probably better than going out to bars and hoping fortune will smile on you at exactly the right time and in exactly the right place.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

has anyone ever seriously had luck with those things though?

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

why wouldn't they? it's always seemed a more logical approach to me, if done sensibly. if you don't have a wide social group within which it's easy to meet lots of women at least. obv. you can work on that too but websites seem the best way to do that now too.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

but with those things it doesnt happen 'naturally' id hazard. it would be a case of two people meeting with the specific aim of something romantic happening between them rather then two people meeting, deciding if they like each other then doing all the rest. then again, the whole reading each others profiles thing is sort of the same as bumping into one another in a public place isnt it, it just removes that initial wave of contact which could be a bit strange.

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

dating websites are terrible things. you look at the adverts there and again it's metropolitan police recruitment time - tall tall tall. oh and rich rich rich turns up quite a lot as well. if i wanted a job interview i'd apply for a job, thank you very much.

i've said it a zillion times, but the only answer is do it the long way, i.e. someone will come into the course of your normal life - at work, while shopping, or whatever - you become friends and build things up gradually if indeed you want things to be built up. you can't force these things to come into being.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

I only know of one person who had a long-term (I wouldn't call it successful) relationship out of a dating site. And he only found this one after (in some cases concurrently) giong on dates with DOZENS (perhaps over a hundred) of people before finding/settling down in that one.

I just don't have the patience, effort, stamina, emotional depths of strength to draw on, to kiss that many frogs.

I don't think it's the strangeness of the method of contact, but more the sheer volume of people you have to sift through. While if you date people you just meet through social situations, a lot of that sifting has already been done without your even noticing it.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

but with those things it doesnt happen 'naturally' id hazard

what's more natural? approaching someone you like the look of in a club/bar, in the hope that you'll be compatible as people too? or doing it the other way round effectively - locking onto people by what their interests are/character seems to be like. granted the web enables people to deceive as about things as people deceive IRL, but that still makes it no worse than the conventional route.

on paper at least, online facilities should be the most logical (i suppose 'logic' may conflict with 'nature' at times) way of doing this, if you're in a rut with your social circle and not in a good position to meet new people regularly.

I just don't have the patience, effort, stamina, emotional depths of strength to draw on, to kiss that many frogs.

people do this without using dating sites anyway, putting the same energy into it in the process. it's not really that different in this respect, to me.


Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

it doesn't have to be dating sites anyway. spend some time on some online 'communities' (ILX being one example of these) that you like/enjoy/find interesting and see potential in wrt finding someone. i had a relationship lasting nearly three years with someone i met via music chat room.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

I can testify to meeting on the internet too. I had a very good relationship with someone I got to know on a message board, which took off from the day we decided to casually meet up on a Sunday afternoon.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

yes well - with me and ilx, i don't think there's much (i.e. any) chance of that happening! and dissensus is all blokes.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

luckily there are a few other msg boards out there.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Ditto here. I don't think there's *any* community, online or otherwise, where I'd be able to find someone that would be attracted towards me, and me them.

(xpost)

Tech Support Droid, Monday, 27 June 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

all about jazz is nearly all 53-year-old supply teachers.

london improv is all blokes.

anyway i'm not keen on other msg boards. they move too slowly for my liking. ilx is the only place where you get some speed.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

it would be great if dissensus had classifieds!

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

all these lovely ladies out there who are into grime white labels and badiou...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

i wondered why ilx didn't have classifieds, but then i realised that x and y would meet up and it would be forlorn cries of: "oh fuck it's you..."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

elitist music boards probably have the same success rate re people pairing up as www.tobymugenthusiasts.org and www.hamradiolovers.cz

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

but what is ilm if not an elitist music board?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

ilm is not really a good place to hook up (statistically). great place to make friends tho (and some enemies), in tandem with ILE, or the other affiliated boards.

i read a nice article on BBC site yesterday about the women who started Friends In The City for Londoners. wish i had started something like this myself. perhaps it would be useful for some people, maybe even successful in terms of finding someone, even if the onus is on friendship.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

i tuned out when i got to the "corporate membership" bit

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

the prob with boards like ILM is that its quite competitive and fierce sometimes and argumentative (or can seem like that) so its not that great for making nice.

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

no girls there either (ho ho)

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

i have met and made some good friends from ilx, don't be mistaken, but in terms of potential relationships i have never looked at ilx/ilxors from that perspective. i am fully aware that that will have to come from somewhere else entirely.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

isnt part of the problem that on ILX when you post under your real name all the time so openly, people know all your neuroses?

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

it's up to you how much of your neuroses you display, real name or not. some people may run a mile as a result, others may be more sympathetic. all i'm saying is that online communities are just as viable a way of meeting someone as any other method.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Buy the JC Chasez album.

Negativa, True Believer (Sheryl Crow in a Britney costume) (Barima), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

if you dont mind me asking stevem, what was the music chatroom you met someone in? or who was it hosted by etc?

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, yes, Sexless, I've been burned on that one. NO ONE on ILX would date me at this point because they've seen how I act when I'm dating/breaking up with someone. Hah.

If only there were something with the flippancy and funniness and friendliness (hah) of ILX, but talking about science and maths and history and architecture and linguistics and stuff I'm actually interested in. (I still love music, but it's a poor interest to base a relationship in - well, actually, I'm not even sure if I even love music any more.)

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

yeah, im going to keep posting under this alias.

i think i need to relocate my other interests cos music has dwarfed all my other pursuits in the last few years, mainly cos its related to my work. i actually like linguistics too so if i find some sort of version of I love Linguistics, i will let it be known!

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

That would definitely be a great community/messageboard; the problem would be building it up until it became as active as this one is.

(I don't like the fragmentation that results from having lots of separate boards like I Love Film/Books/Comics/Whatever, partly because it results in less, um, communityness. I'd certainly be up for using a board along the lines of what Kate's just suggested, though)

Tech Support Droid, Monday, 27 June 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

Hrmm, if only the admins hadn't shut off the "new board function" we could start a new "I Love Geeks" board with those kinds of subjects.

Because whenever I start threads along those lines, they disappear after a few posts and I get sucked into the relationship threads again.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

sometimes i think ILX lets people wallow in stuff maybe they shouldnt wallow in quite so much. sort of like me making this post. i suppose its cathartic though. there should be an I Love Useless Information board.

sexless, Monday, 27 June 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Badger the admins!

(and admin the badgers!)

Tech Support Droid, Monday, 27 June 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

well that's ILM innit

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)


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