It's July 2005 in Iraq

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And thus we continue. Belgravia digested the Bush speech and felt it was successful as a restatement of previously-established points, but that was about it.

Put differently, how long will the American people accept a bloody stalemate, if it comes to that? Bush is gambling an increasingly trained Iraqi Army, in conjunction with successfully passed political milestones like a referendum on the consitution and such, will carry the day. He could be right. But it's still more by way of a gamble than a hugely convincing war plan. And nothing about this speech really changes that perception among, say, centrist independents increasingly souring somewhat on the war-as compared to leftists deadly opposed or rightists continuing to cheer on the flypaper meme. Bush still, all told, controls the broad center on the war. But will he in four, or six, or nine months? I'm unsure. This speech bought him a bit more time; but not much. People are tired of words; and are looking for convincing results on the ground. It's not just the President who is becoming a bit more realist...

Parapundit digs up some interesting poll results for Bush (not good ones), while Balloon Juice snarkily notes that the news of a new embassy feeling secure in Baghdad isn't all that.

Meanwhile, in NRO world, McCarthy quoted this letter as being from a patriot. Personally I always have great sympathy for any military spouse, kid or relative, for obvious reasons given my background. But so annoyed was I with some of the presumptions made -- specifically given how my father would have strongly disagreed with many of the writer's assumptions -- that I ended up firing off a lengthy response to McCarthy about it. We'll see.

Elsewhere, this editorial by President Bush's physician for four years is quite something:

I urge my fellow health professionals to join me and many others in reaffirming our ethical commitment to prevent torture; to clearly state that systematic torture, sanctioned by the government and aided and abetted by our own profession, is not acceptable. As health professionals, we should support the growing calls for an independent, bipartisan commission to investigate torture in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere, and demand restoration of ethical standards that protect physicians, nurses, medics and psychologists from becoming facilitators of abuse.

America cannot continue down this road. Torture demonstrates weakness, not strength. It does not show understanding, power or magnanimity. It is not leadership. It is a reaction of government officials overwhelmed by fear who succumb to conduct unworthy of them and of the citizens of the United States.

Quite.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 July 2005 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

As for what's happening right now over there...:

The Army plans to draw far fewer reservists for Iraq duty in a new rotation of forces that has just begun, counting instead on active-duty soldiers to fill most of the deployment requirement, the Army's top officer reported yesterday.

Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the Army's chief of staff, said in Senate testimony that the number of Army National Guard brigades in Iraq will drop from seven this year to as few as two next year. In relation to the total number of troops, that would cut the share of Guard units from 41 percent to 11 percent.

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The move comes not a moment too soon for the nation's community of formerly part-time soldiers, which has been badly strained by lengthy deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. With many of the better-equipped reserve units nearing a two-year maximum call-up limit declared by the Bush administration, Army leaders had warned earlier this year that they were running out of upper-tier brigades to send to Iraq.

Army officials said yesterday that the greater reliance on active-duty units has become possible as a result of the creation of new regular brigades, part of a major restructuring effort begun a year and a half ago aimed at increasing the number of active-duty brigades from 33 to at least 43, and making each more easily deployable.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 July 2005 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

(A quick double check on the editorial in the initial post indicates the writer was the elder Bush's physician, not the younger. Just FYI, continue on...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 July 2005 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

And, as always, remember the dead.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 July 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

Great. Just great.

Iraq's ambassador to the UN has called for an inquiry into the apparent "cold-blooded murder" killing of his young unarmed relative by US marines.

Samir Sumaidaie said his 21-year-old cousin was shot as he helped marines who were carrying out searches at his village in the restive Anbar province.

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He said Mohammed, an engineering student, was visiting his family home when some 10 marines with an Egyptian interpreter knocked on the door at 1000 local time.

He opened the door to them and was "happy to exercise some of his English", said the ambassador.

When asked if there were any weapons in the house, Mohammed took the marines to a room where there was a rifle with no live ammunition.

'Single neck wound'

It was the last the family saw him alive. Shortly after, another brother was dragged out and beaten and the family was ordered to wait outside.

As the marines left "smiling at each other" an hour later, the interpreter told the mother they had killed Mohammed, said Mr Sumaidaie.

"In the bedroom, Mohammed was found dead and laying in a clotted pool of his blood. A single bullet had penetrated his neck."

The US military said the allegations "roughly correspond to an incident involving coalition forces on that day and in that general location".

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 July 2005 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

i totally missed dubya's speech but i have to wonder why anybody takes him seriously re: outlaying an "iraq policy" anymore?!?! it's well documented that there has never been one aside from invade at all costs, er i mean except at lo-lo-lo walmart/rumsfeld costs.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 2 July 2005 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

also having non-iraqi translators seems like a big big mistake but hey gotta slash them prices.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 2 July 2005 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

An SFTT on armor in Iraq -- for dignitaries as vs. for the troops.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Theocracy rising. Bringing freedom in harder-than-it-sounds shocker.

The once libertine oil port of Basra, 350 miles south of the capital and far from the insurgency raging in much of Iraq, is steadily being transformed into a mini-theocracy under Shiite rule. There is perhaps no better indication of the possible flash points in a Shiite-dominated Iraq, because the political parties that hold sway here also wield significant influence in the central government in Baghdad and are backed by the country's top clerics.

Efforts to impose strict Shiite religious rule across Iraq would almost certainly spur resistance from Sunni Arabs and the more secular Kurds. But here in Basra, the changes have accelerated since the January elections, which enabled religious parties to put more radical politicians into office.

...Few women walk around without a head scarf and full-length black robe. A young woman who gave her name as Layla said she could wear jeans without a robe a year ago. But seven months before, as she strode from her house, a group of men came up to her and warned her that she was improperly dressed.

She says she no longer goes out in public without a robe.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 7 July 2005 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

And, well, yes, Where did the money go, Mr. Bremer?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 7 July 2005 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4672433.stm

On one hand I've got myself to blame (Lynskey), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that's one of the things that drives me fucking nuts. there are billions missing here, and there will be fuck all done about becuase the Admin doesn't like people asking questions, and anyone who does will be openly attacked by elected officials and the rightwing noise machine.

so many feedback control mechanisms have been disconnected that one really does wonder how long it'll take before we can cataclysmic system failure. Will a full-on civil war in Iraq require it? will it take a full draft? would 10 years of the draft even begin to penetrate the minds of the supporting parties, or would they reluctantly sacrifice their kids "for the War on Terror and to fight them evildoers"?

you cannot have an infintely-increasing function. what will be the critical point for system failure? what's it gunna take?

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050712/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/national_guard_2

"Join the National Guard! It's not THAT bad; you have better than a 1 in 1000 chance of getting killed!"

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Read this Jonathan Schell column in The Nation... American-trained Iraqi forces who're just working for the $$$ and singing mournful songs to Saddam:

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050617/iraq_behind_the_script.php


Anyone see the original Post story?

This makes me think the George McGoverns have it wrong. PULL OUT, NOW. Nothing will improve under this Orwellian occupation, except urban Americans' chances of getting incinerated on mass transit.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

32 Children Die in Baghdad Blast

May Allah richly reward his heroic Mujahideen!

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

99 dead after fuel tanker attack
(this wasn't anywhere on the cnn frontpage, btfuckingw)

jermaine (jnoble), Sunday, 17 July 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

in july 2005 in television's iraq, all it takes is a few hours for the news of almost one hundred deaths to have fallen off headlines, into the big abyss of headshaking tsk tsk 'oh well' general iraq boy-that's-not-very-good-is-it-ness

jermaine (jnoble), Sunday, 17 July 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

it's up there now, but an associated article underneath the saddam photo.

kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

and it's the top news story on the Yahoo frontpage:

• Iraq blasts kill 98 as Saddam Hussein indicted
• Rove was first source on CIA agent - reporter
• London bomber linked to 2003 Israel attack
• Clinton backing AIDS drugs for African kids
• Hiroshima bomb survivor recalls devastation
• Dennis ruined Florida cotton crop - official
• Some booksellers weary of Harry Potter craze
• Woods wins British · Tour de France · MLB

kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

to be purposefully naive, what would happen following a full withdrawal of uk/us/polish/italian etc etc forces from iraq, around now?

ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

The region would turn to glass...

Jimmy Mod Is Sick of Being The Best At Everything (ModJ), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Iraq's other major benefactor, Iran, would gain increasing prominence, and the latent civil war would most likely reach its full potential. Among other things.

But whether that would actually be demonstrably worse is a little hard to tell.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I was just discussing the other day with a friend how the bombings have become what they are in 1984, a daily occurrence that is taken for granted. Then I saw the suicide bombing headline of the day that said 99 dead, and realized it must really be escalating. But it's still pretty mind-numbing.

richardk (Richard K), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

i think everybody should read this (and possibly weep):
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18150

jermaine (jnoble), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

bless you, Ned, for this thread. keep 'em coming -- it's frighteningly easy to forget that this war is happening.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks. I admit I have been glad not to think about this thread much during vacation.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)


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