The War of the Worlds Movie SPOILERS Thread

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Wherein we discuss things that contain major spoilers. Like the ending -- I don't quite know what to make of it, but what a fucking kick in the pants that must be -- not only does your ex's new husband survive, but so do your ex-IN LAWS, and they all come out of their untouched Boston yuppie house to stare meanly at you.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 3 July 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

Dude the son totally died, I don't know what was up with him reappearing.

sleep (sleep), Sunday, 3 July 2005 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

Also, are grenades the ultimate action cinema trump card / silver bullet?

sleep (sleep), Sunday, 3 July 2005 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't dig the grenade scene at all -- it seemed superfluous, or like some test-marketed thing that was added in so we could feel like we really got back at those doggurn terro--er--aliens.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 3 July 2005 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

Total suck. At least have SOME personal tragedy in there.

giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 3 July 2005 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I think it was kind of ridiculous that his son didn't die. But at the same time it wasn't such a happy ending since he's still divorced dad whose kids are more attached to their mom.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 3 July 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

...yeah, but I am still really, really baffled that Boston didn't appear to get hit all that bad AT ALL. Like, the aliens totally bypassed Beacon Hill or something.

giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 3 July 2005 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

Did you notice his grandparents???
http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Sunday, 3 July 2005 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Sunday, 3 July 2005 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

a picture of the 1953 versions 2 main characters was supposed to come up then.....bugger.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Sunday, 3 July 2005 07:20 (nineteen years ago)

the son SO should've had his blood sucked by the aliens

latebloomer: now with 20% less cetacean content (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 July 2005 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

Haha the IMDB page I was looking at has an embedded ad for the film itself "After the shock. After the fear. Comes the time... To fight."

It also contains a line from Cruise that I don't remember in the film: "I don't know what they expected to find when they got here, but they found us"

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 3 July 2005 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the line about how occupations always fail. I must ask my beloved i) if they have cinemas in Palestine and ii) if they edit that line out there.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 3 July 2005 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm unsure as to who they are in that sentence. No-one is in favour of the occupation in palestine because the people who are in favour don't consider it an occupation.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 3 July 2005 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't get that either. boston was ok? made no sense. how did the alien's know millions of years ago where to plant their machines, like they knew to plant it under super urban areas? the only thing that would make sense is if they did it equally all over the world, but for some reason boston didn't have any planted around. yet, the scene at first there made it look like a disaster zone, but beacon hill was super chill. everyone was still in their brownstone cold chill'n. i didn't get that at all. and that son totally fucking died

breezy, Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

he rose on the third day

latebloomer: now with 20% less cetacean content (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm unsure as to who they are in that sentence. No-one is in favour of the occupation in palestine because the people who are in favour don't consider it an occupation.

-- Andrew Farrell (afarrel...), July 3rd, 2005.

Not true. Not to derail the thread, but most Israelis, including Sharon, consider it an occupation. Most also "oppose" it in the sense that they want a two-state solution.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Besides, I think the line was more a jab at the U.S.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

how did the alien's know millions of years ago where to plant their machines, like they knew to plant it under super urban areas?

I agree -- it was a rather convoluted explanation for a rather cool cinematic device (having the lightning storms first, THEN the things coming up from under the ground).

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Plus it meant that the reporter got to say "They RIDE THE LIGHTNING"

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 3 July 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

here is my dream ending:

a) son dies

b) daughter snatched, tripod runs merrily away, no grenade scene

c) cruise wanders numbly into boston, a murderer, attends a sunrise church service on a burning block.

d) there he finds the woman and girl he abandoned in the hudson river scene! SHE SURVIVED! they forgive him for abandoning them.

d) tripod arrives to blast the church into smithereens, soldiers show up in chase, tripod keels over from bacterial infection, smashing the church into rubble.

e) gasping alien tripod-pilot crawls from tripod, wheezes out his death rattle, freeze frame for ten seconds, followed by intertitle: "FIN."

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 3 July 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

f) "who let the dogs out" plays over the end credits

latebloomer: now with 20% less cetacean content (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 July 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, the church hate was mysteriously missing from this version.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 3 July 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

g) disturbing Cruiser bloopers and outtakes

Aaron A., Sunday, 3 July 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the son totally died.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 3 July 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

also... the shot of the grandparents was the funniest thing i've seen all year. it totally took me out of the movie, me & jones were cracking up... it really looked like a shot from a life insurance ad or something.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 3 July 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

It's People

Frankist Swedeheadicus, Monday, 4 July 2005 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

re Boston, the aliens were even more defenseless against a concentration of collegians.

I really don't see Tom winning a fight to the death with Tim Robbins. TC does cry better now than he did in Magnolia and Eyes Wide Shut.

I love how it's established early that the little girl's a screamer, then she stops screaming for an hour of the film, including when the ugly-ass aliens are 3 feet from her. (btw, that Dakota kid is a slightly more skilled version of the standard precocious sitcom moppet)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

is the fact that the little girl being a screamer a take on the 1950's version of the film, where the lead woman was also an annoying screamer?
or just a rather unfortunate coincidence?

i just read the Wells book today, i never realised the red weed wasn't part of the original story.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

not true! how far did you read into the book?

latebloomer: the Clonus Horror (latebloomer), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

TC does cry better now than he did in Magnolia and Eyes Wide Shut.

I agree. It doesn't look like TC is getting the worse end of a cattle prod when he's winding up to cry.

As to why all the tripods were buried under cities: it seemed pretty clear that they weren't. Some had even been covered by water in the interim (the ferry sequence), so obviously the terrain wasn't what it used to be. Or else they came back to retrieve their booty because global warming was threatening the coastal locations (i.e. most of the world's cities), and so that was the impetus for their retrieval. Yay environmental message overload!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

ah it appears i read a 'simplified' version, this would probably explain the reading of it in one day then.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

ahhhhh, ok. well here's a passage from chapter 23 mentioning the red weed:

But so soon as this strangeness had been realised it passed, and my dominant motive became the hunger of my long and dismal fast. In the direction away from the pit I saw, beyond a red-covered wall, a patch of garden ground un- buried. This gave me a hint, and I went knee-deep, and sometimes neck-deep, in the red weed. The density of the weed gave me a reassuring sense of hiding. The wall was some six feet high, and when I attempted to clamber it I found I could not lift my feet to the crest. So I went along by the side of it, and came to a corner and a rockwork that enabled me to get to the top, and tumble into the garden I coveted. Here I found some young onions, a couple of gladiolus bulbs, and a quantity of immature carrots, all of which I secured, and, scrambling over a ruined wall, went on my way through scarlet and crimson trees towards Kew-- it was like walking through an avenue of gigantic blood drops--possessed with two ideas: to get more food, and to limp, as soon and as far as my strength permitted, out of this accursed unearthly region of the pit.

latebloomer: the Clonus Horror (latebloomer), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

The film didn't make it clear at all what the blood-draining was for, unless I lost the dialogue in sound effects.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

They were using them as fertiliser for the red weeds. At least that was the theory of Tim Robbins. One of the things I do like about the film is that everything in it apart from the Morgan Freeman voiceovers at the start/end is speculation.

The film can be a little hard to hear at times, it was only on the second viewing that I heard what Tom Cruise was saying after "The birds!" ("No shield")

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Tom Cruise was saying after "The birds!" ("No shield")

yeah i totally had to guess what he said here too.

the car conversation on the freeway is brilliantly done.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

'these things...they're from...somewhere else.'
'what, like, Europe ?'

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

haha... I forgot about that piece of shitty dialogue. even i won't be defending that one.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 11 July 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

It served its purpose, which was to remind us that everyone in that car was an asshole, and just because the focus had been on TC and his daughter for a bit, it didn't mean the teenage shouldn't get some hate.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 11 July 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think that mission had already been accomplished in his first minute of screen time. (Actually, I didn't hate the son in this movie at all. Though that he was sharing practically all his screen time with Tom Cruise and Dakota Fanning undoubtedly skewed the compass.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 11 July 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

i had hoped tcs grenade stunt would be the beginning of a suicide bomber war against the aliens. WHAT A SUBTEXT. oh well

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

once again, My Filthy speaks truth:

http://www.bigempire.com/filthy/waroftheworlds.html

kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

So, this film is basically about how Tom Cruise becomes a better dad, due to Martians attacking but not really thinking things through.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

the car conversation on the freeway is brilliantly done.

indeed, how tf did they do it? it looked like one take!

Enrique, naked in an unfamiliar future where corporations run the world... (Enri, Sunday, 7 August 2005 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...
A friend who just rented it:


"I dismissed the 9/11 references and began to see the aliens as metaphors for Cruise's homosexuality: no matter how many children he surrounds himself with, no matter where he runs, he's going to be pursued by long, snake-like things that will suck him up into a big sphincter. It was a much more enjoyable way to engage the movie than on its own terms."


He's a little fulla shit, but I laughed.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

I liked how tom cruise took time to put on his Cool Leather Jacket right before going out to find his daughter

dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:13 (thirteen years ago)

it was cold out!

da croupier, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:14 (thirteen years ago)

also what was up with the dude filming in the beginning with a camcorder, I thought the lightning EMP knocked out all the electronics

dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:17 (thirteen years ago)

I guess when the aliens buried their machines with the cool heat death ray &c they forgot to build into their eyes infra-red imaging or Sony NightVision™ ability

dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:20 (thirteen years ago)

-nobody was on that plane?
-lol @ convenient news van w/ vhs tapes of aliens zapping themselves into the machines. like if you didn't believe that it's okay, news lady is gonna go through it frame by frame
-lol @ aliens perving over a photo of the girl

dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:52 (thirteen years ago)

also lol @ tom cruises's all mechnical, very expensive Omega© watch stopped by the EMP

ok maybe it was a canal street fake

dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 04:01 (thirteen years ago)

oh the "plausibles," Hitchcock woulda loved ya ;)

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 07:18 (thirteen years ago)

There were bodies on the plane! Strapped into seats!

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)


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