did you ever have bad effects from smoking pot?

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No jokes please. I'm just wondering if smoking pot has ever made you feel sick. I tried it for the second time ever and then I remembered why I never wanted to try it again the first time, because it made me feel sick, and I'm wondering how common that is.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Sunday, 3 July 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I never had that problem, but I've come across people who have been made sick by pot. I think it's uncommon but not unheard of.

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 3 July 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

every time i smoke pot, i get nausea, paranoia and/or panic attacks. thats why i smoke hash instead

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Sunday, 3 July 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't it commonly referred to as greening out? I don't think it happens more than twice when you first start smoking it.

The New and Improved / Kate (papa november), Sunday, 3 July 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Never physically ill, but I eventually had to quit smoking altogether because of the dreadful anxiety attacks.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 3 July 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

My bf gets very sick on it, but it doesnt do anything untoward to me, except leave me vaguely confused and tired the next day.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 3 July 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

yes

Ô¿Ô (eman), Sunday, 3 July 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

nothing more serious than strange dreams and a slightly muddled head the next morning

Seuss, Sunday, 3 July 2005 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Really, hash prevents that? Because all I get is badly paranoid and anxious on cannabis. Hash is the answer perhaps?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 July 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

I know not to smoke it if I've got serious stuff on my mind, or I'll drop right through the floor with depression. So, just beware of your state of mind, I guess.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 3 July 2005 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, put me down for a soul-wrenching anxiety situation. I had always chalked it up to feeling no empathy (and vice versa) with the people I was smoking with.

artie, Monday, 4 July 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

never

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 4 July 2005 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

often. i quit like a year and a half ago after i kept thinking next time it would go away. it's horrible.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 4 July 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

first time I smoked from a bong, I ended up getting the spins from hell and puking everywhere.

Another time, from a bigger bong, my legs got super numb, I could barely, uh... drive.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 4 July 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

Most people I've known who 'got sick' from pot have usually had a toke after a night of drinking, and it sent them over the edge. That's the booze, not the weed. Somke before drinking...

But if that's not the case, yeah, it just does not agree with some people.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 4 July 2005 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's interesting that one of the medical uses of it is for nausea and yet it can cause nausea also.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 4 July 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

a friend of mine did the full projectile vomit the few times she smoked pot. now it only takes the smell of it to provoke this reaction which is a lot of fun when we're at the house of someone i dont like.

sunny successor (when the lunch bell rings why dont you eat me) (katharine), Monday, 4 July 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

When I first started smoking pot I would break out Pink Floyd.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

Geezus thats HORRIBLE!

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 4 July 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

Most people I've known who 'got sick' from pot have usually had a toke after a night of drinking, and it sent them over the edge. That's the booze, not the weed. Somke before drinking...

Oh man this nearly happened to me last night. I ended up biking home from this party. I could barely see past the handlebars of my bike. I tried to keep the yellow center line of the road on my left. Oh god, it sucked. Thank god a cop didn't see me because I was wandering all over the road. I have a bad habit of clipping curbs and getting a little hurt when I am fucked but this time I doubt I would have stayed on the bike.

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 05:05 (nineteen years ago)

once in a blue moon I'll get lightheaded and almost pass out. can still hear but everything just fades to black and i can't stand on my feet.

oops (Oops), Monday, 4 July 2005 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, are you hypoglycemic. I am and have very low blood pressure and find that happens to me occasionally. If I know I am going to be smoking, I like to drink some juice before.

get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Monday, 4 July 2005 05:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah me too. I get very light headed and I have fainted several times. Esp if I bong on having not eaten (so I am careful to avoid that now). Fainting is Not Nice. Its weird waking up under one's desk lying on the floor thinking "why was I down here again? Ow my head".

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

Never thought about juice beforehand, good idea.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

What happened before I smoked, I had pretzels and 3 beers instead of dinner, and some caffiene. Probably didn't help, but I wasn't feeling hungry or too drunk or anything so I thought no big deal. I took a hit and it didn't do anything so i took another huge one. Then i got all faint and couldn't really move or keep my eyes open, and felt numb like when you get hit on a nerve, in a painful way. I was twitching almost like a seizure for 15 minutes. I knew it would go away so I didn't get mentally out of control, but it was still stupid and embarassing and I won't do it again. At least I never got any pink floyd urge.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

don't know if i am, jon, but diabetes does run in my family. the only thing culprit i could think of for it was my heart murmur, but that doesn't seem too likely.

oops (Oops), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:37 (nineteen years ago)

I've had many bad effects from smoking (regardless of weed or hash, but I find hash a nastier buzz generally).

As has been mentioned smoking after booze can cause nausea. Then there are the psychological effects such as paranoia. And I've noticed that if I smoke too much I get an irregular heartbeat and high blood pressure which really freaks me out!

Thankfully I don't get the urge to put on New Agey music, but others do.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 4 July 2005 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

Many of these problems are most pronounced when smoking the modern hydroponic stuff. If it was easy to get hold of mild stuff I'd probably still smoke a bit, but as I can only get hold of industrial-strength weed these days I don't bother.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 4 July 2005 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

apart from almost DIEING with laughter from when an old man approached me wearing a t-shirt with a picture of his own face on the front, most of my pot times have been guuurd.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 4 July 2005 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

I sometimes get a bit of a tummy ache when I go to bed, but that's usually when i've been drinking lots as well. Nothing a tunny pill doesn't cure, anyway.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 4 July 2005 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't it commonly referred to as greening out?

we call it a whitey, as when it happens you go white and puke.

had this many times.

the secret is, don't drink loads then smoke, smoke while drinking. you won't spin out then.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 4 July 2005 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

we call it a whitey, as when it happens you go white and puke.

Was just about to post this. It's never happened to me, but when I was younger this used to happen to a friend of mine all of the time. She totally cain the joint & then be throwing up in the toilet 5 minutes later. We'd ask her if she was alright & she'd always say "yeah i'm fine, I've been suffering with sickness & diarrhea! [sp]" She hadn't.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 4 July 2005 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

aye, or in my case, try not to drink much at all on the ch00f - I get massively more drunkstoned and have weird memory holes and things if I go too far. :/ I totally had to stop doing crap like that, it was getting me into very stupid situations (like falling on my arse in front of a roomfull of people at a Roy Ayers gig for example).

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 4 July 2005 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

But I never even feel nauseous on it! In fact its not a bad sicky hangover cure I find.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 4 July 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

OTM Tantrum about that whole depression thing

kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I did the whitey thing the last time I tried it (which itself was the first time in a decade). Fucking hell I felt awful for like 24 hours.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

no your limits, that all you need to know.

hello pink, how was your glasto?

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

i meant know your limits!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

where's my can of stellar(enberg)?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

as for pot, never greened out / had a whitey on pot alone, only when drinking too. however, i've seen it happen on hash alone.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

where's my can of stellar(enberg)?

in my belly. if i knew what you looked like i could've saved you one. did you have a good time/ survive the flood?

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 4 July 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

hello pink, how was your glasto?
Hello! It was absolutely fab thanks! How was yours?

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 4 July 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Very good thanks. Took me a while to recover though.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 4 July 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

i can't smoke anymore. i've become extremely prone to anxiety attacks and even if i don't have a full-on one i'll usually go through a period of thinking that i can't breathe, which is very unpleasant. sad, really. i used to have such a good time.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 4 July 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

*lights a bowl*

shookout (shookout), Monday, 4 July 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...
I turned green and felt terribly lightheaded after burning a massive joint with a friend at a party last weekend. I had eaten a large dinner and had several (three) whiskeys; I'm not sure if it was a reaction to low blood sugar or the ganj mixed with the alchs.

A friend fetched me a cup of cola and I felt better, but it was a very strange reaction indeed. My face was lima bean green. I think a switch to hash is in order. How can such a benevolent drug, one I've had such a great relationship with, turn on me so??

scrimhaw1837 (son_of_scrimshaw), Saturday, 18 March 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

the secret is, don't drink loads then smoke, smoke while drinking.

wise words. all this drug education in school, you'd think they could at least mention this kind of thing.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 18 March 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

too much pot makes me feel very sick and then unconscious. Not enough does absolutely nothing. no happy medium!

Slumpman (Slump Man), Saturday, 18 March 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

panic attacks

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 18 March 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't been able to smoke weed for about five years - it makes me too introspective, unable to make conversation and slightly paranoid.

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Sunday, 19 March 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://elephanttuesday.com/catalog/images/halfBaked.jpg?osCsid=0ebcc08d9dccd57faa42e02d4c552d39

timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

I got paranoid sometimes, and had borderline panic attacks sometimes.

Many of these problems are most pronounced when smoking the modern hydroponic stuff. If it was easy to get hold of mild stuff I'd probably still smoke a bit, but as I can only get hold of industrial-strength weed these days I don't bother.

Amen to that. If my dealer described his current batch as "mellow", I'd buy it. Otherwise: nah ah.

it makes me too introspective, unable to make conversation and slightly paranoid

Bingo. Same here. This is why I will probably never pick it up again. It was a lot of fun before it started affecting me in these undesirable ways, but I have no room in my life for anything that makes me any more anti-social or socially paranoid than I naturally am.

Another thing I hated about weed, was that it seemed to last forever. I remember taking a few hits at 10am on a Saturday morning and still feeling like a zombie at 8pm. So much for doing anything that night.

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

The only downside to quitting that I've found is that masturbation is a bit boring these days. Is this common?

dr lulu (dr lulu), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha, that half baked cover, esp the sky (wheeooo-ooo!), is like the whipped cream proof on top of the brownie of obviousness that that movie is made for and by the highly stoned.

the only problems i've ever had with pot have been after having far too much to drink and then smoking - as has been said already in this thread. i think my blood pressure drops so much that i half pass out, tend to have to throw up, and also lose memory. so, erm, that's not good and i do not recommend it, esp to people who, like me, have lowish blood pressure to begin with.

other than that: weed!!!

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 19 March 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

next time you smoke pot, try this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w86hDdUD03o&search=magick

Run away screaming, Sunday, 19 March 2006 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, put me down for a soul-wrenching anxiety situation.

I get anxious and something almost like paranoid, but not really.

I used to smoke every day for a couple of years, but then things went sour.

These days I feel uncomfortably aware of everything all at once. And I can't help but analyze everything, every sensation, thought, word I hear or say, motion, etc etc etc etc and also I analyze my analysis of things. It is paralyzing and thoroughly unpleasant with no redeeming qualities, whether alone or with others.

The exception is that when I am pretty drunk I can take a toke and I just get more fucked up and it doesn't bother me too much, but by that time even a slap to the face wouldn't bug me either.

whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 19 March 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

I remember someone's party, the smokes got passed roun, and I indulged a nice bit, and we 'retired' to play a video game. Shootemup and driving, you know. Anuhow, after five mins I couln't focus anywhere apart from the four feet away that the screen had been, and my pulse was racin away. I ended up doing a line of some whyte C stuff to 'come down' WTF. I felt better then...

logged owt (mark grout), Monday, 20 March 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, more to the point, the stuff is known as a muscle relaxant, and the first time I really came into contact with it in the general atmosphere was at a General Saint/Clint Eastwood gig (which was great btw) and I remember waking up at four in the morn desperate for the loo, where I laid the biggest cable at the fastest rate in my life ever.

That;s TMI I know, but the thing is I was suffrin w/undiagnosed Crohns disease at the time, and it's recognised as something that can help suffr's. (Imagine if I'd been allowed a prescrip! I'd've been the most popular kid in sckowl)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 20 March 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

I laid the biggest cable at the fastest rate in my life ever.

I'm gonna give some weed to my electrician now.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 20 March 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Pot can apparently trigger schizophrenia in some people. There have been studies which show that schizophrenia is fifteen times more common among regular users (or something like that). That fits anecdotally for me: one of my best friends used to smoke industrial quantities of dope, started having psychotic episodes, and was eventually diagnosed as a schizophrenic.

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s777336.htm

jz, Monday, 20 March 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Actually not fifteen times more common but six times more common according to this link:

http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/cannabis.marijuana.schizophrenia.html

jz, Monday, 20 March 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

I used to smoke every day for a couple of years, but then things went sour.

These days I feel uncomfortably aware of everything all at once. And I can't help but analyze everything, every sensation, thought, word I hear or say, motion, etc etc etc etc and also I analyze my analysis of things. It is paralyzing and thoroughly unpleasant with no redeeming qualities, whether alone or with others.

it is exactly what happened with me.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 20 March 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

this thread would make a great anti-pot campaigne.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 20 March 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

"Don't do industrial amounts of anything!"

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 20 March 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

I whited spectacularly once. I found out afterwards that the friend of my flatmates who was skinning up had come round to my flat with the intention of getting me caned so he could have his wicked way with me. His dastardly plan was to heavily weight the front of the joint with hash and pass it to me first. However it backfired dramatically as I was HUGELY sick. Hah! Sadly not actually on him tho...

indolent girl (indolent girl), Monday, 20 March 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Pot can apparently trigger schizophrenia in some people. There have been studies which show that schizophrenia is fifteen times more common among regular users (or something like that). That fits anecdotally for me: one of my best friends used to smoke industrial quantities of dope, started having psychotic episodes, and was eventually diagnosed as a schizophrenic.

Association does not imply a causal relationship in either direction. Australian making logical fallacies, so fucking shocking!

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and it was the fallacies that made him Australian BTW!

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Association does not imply a causal relationship in either direction. Australian making logical fallacies, so fucking shocking!

Well I did say 'apparently'. Association doesn't imply causal relationship, but if you click on that link you'll find we're talking about more than mere correlation, and that there is a body of research into what the causal relationship might be. Also, I'm guessing that people who design expensive trials know enough to be able to factor out non-causal associations.

jz, Monday, 20 March 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm guessing that people who design expensive trials...

You must be new to this drug war misinformation campaign.

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the schizophrenia studies suggested that for people already prone to schizophrenia -- genetically or however they determine that -- heavy pot usage could serve as a triggering mechanism. i don't think there's any suggestion that pot can make non-schizophrenic people schizophrenic. if weed alone could really make people schizophrenic, we'd have a lot more schizophrenics.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Why do schizophrenic patients smoke [cigarettes]?

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

the only bad effect i can think of is having less money

pyjamagrama (teenagequiet), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the schizophrenia studies suggested that for people already prone to schizophrenia

Yeah, I guess that's right. People with a disposition may get sent over the edge. The implication is also that not everyone who has a disposition is going to go over the edge, but they're more likely to if they smoke dope. And they're even more likely to if they smoke dope as teenagers, when the brain structure is still developing.

jz, Monday, 20 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Here's what NORML says:

St. Pierre also noted that previous scientific reviews regarding marijuana's impact on health, including a 1999 study by the National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine (IOM), have played down links between marijuana use and psychiatric disorders, including schizophrenia. "Daily cigarette smoking among adolescent boys is more strongly associated with psychiatric disorders than is any use of illicit substances," the IOM concluded.

In addition, some researchers believe that marijuana may actually play a role in treating schizophrenia. For example, a 1999 study by scientists at the University of California at Irvine speculated that the body may produce higher levels of the THC-like chemical anandamide to combat the effects of schizophrenia.

"Arguably, this research is in it's infancy," St. Pierre concluded. "However, epidemiological evidence gleaned from thousands of years of marijuana smoking indicates that if there is a risk associated with the use of marijuana and these ailments, then that risk is exceptionally small."

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not scientist enough to evaluate the findings, but it makes a certain amount of intuitive sense. being stoned can be disorienting and disassociative, so it's possible that for people who are likely to develop schizophrenia (which often has a full-blown onset in the 20s), being stoned will be their first real experience of disassociation but one that their brain will be kind of primed to amplify and reproduce. so maybe where most people learn to deal with and discount the disassociation (or maybe even enjoy it as a short-term effect), latent schizophrenics experience it as a kind of revelation of "reality", as their brains are wired to define reality.

which i don't think means that pot-smoking "causes" schizophrenia.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 20 March 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

And if you ever get hungry....

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0317061candy1.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 March 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)


The biggest effect I've noticed from smoking pot is that I now hate pot. And really hate most pot-heads.

whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 20 March 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I hate smoking pot more as I get older. It kind of sucks but I have so many more unpleasant experiences.

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

I am sad that I don't get into it like others do. I wish I had some mild and readily available substance like pot.

For me, the closest thing is opiate pain pills like Vicodin etc, but they're hard to get.

whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

brownies, dudes. i quit smoking after college, but this last winter in CO, my buddy started baking up a storm, and we'd have a cookie or something right before heading out on a powder day. sublime. the slow burn and late onset makes it waaay less disorienting than the insta-stoned of smoking. plus, body high >>>>> brain high (for outside stuff, at least)

gbx (skowly), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

No way. I have tried eating pot cookies and also Marinol (appetite stimulant synthetic THC) and it was just as bad as pot, but longer-lasting. I felt panicky because I couldn't stop being on this horrible "high."

whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

vaporizers rool for reducing confusion/"heavy" stoniness, in my experience

pyjamagrama (teenagequiet), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have low blood pressure and hypoglycemia so I have to make sure to eat a balanced meal first. Although, I tried that yesterday and I just got weak stomached from the 8 cups of coffee I had with it. I went out to a restaurant in NYC and ordered.... 2 pots of tea and toast (which I was only able to nibble on). Fortunately, the waiter was a friend of the [large] party and was very understanding and not a bitch about a profit customer. I tipped very well. Then I felt better and drank like 8 beers and stayed up till 5 am. Today, I feel sick!

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, ditto on the blood pressure and hypoglycemia. I actually had a really scary anxiety attack last time I smoked, which was (1) on an empty stomach (2) after 6 mos. of not smoking (3) medical stuff. I want to try again, but not w./o. lots of food and cushions.

remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 00:29 (nineteen years ago)


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