'anarchist' protest in Edinburgh

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They've just passed my office, lots of noise but no trouble here.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 4 July 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

"anti-capitalist group the WOMBLES"??????!!!!!?????

Does arch-Tory Mike Batt know about this?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

"They were stopped by a row of blue police vans with flashing blue lights. Police in caps and yellow reflective jackets formed at the rear of the parade.."

just in case you didn't know what the police force looked like

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Can hear lots of sirens from my office in Castle Terrace. Helicopters have been circling overhead since noon - they're giving me a headache.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

no ste that is important, they could've turned up in full-on riot regalia

― emsk, Monday, 4 July 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

caps are meant to be less threatening than helemts.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

I'd be more worried about the truncheons personally - if I was a Womble

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Scottish police don't wear helmets (apart from the riot police).

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

I still don't understand - why Edinburgh? Why not Perth, Crieff or (shock! horror!) Auchterarder itself?

'Easier to get to' arguments don't wash, they all manage to descend on Glastonbury without any difficulty and it's far smaller/harder to get to.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

I heard about this from a friend of mine who was participating and she's enjoying it very much. I didn't realise it was called The Carnival for Full Enjoyment, though -- that's a fantastic name, very Situationist!

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Auchterarder = too hard to pronounce

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

my friend's bro is policing up there this week, apparently he was quite looking forward to it and not anticipating much conflict between protestors/police.

― emsk, Monday, 4 July 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

They're coming back up here, lots of shouting.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Why is the word "anarchist" in quotation marks? Also, whenever there are top security meetings like this, demonstrations are often forbidden or made very difficult to organize in the meeting place itself. And the idea behind having demonstrations all over the world is to show resistance is everywhere. The decisions made affect the whole world anyway.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Indymedia are reporting 1000 people at Charlotte Square.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

just been phoned from scotexec - sirens in background - been told they're in lockdown

just as well steven seagal got that job in the kitchen

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

I still don't understand - why Edinburgh? Why not Perth, Crieff or (shock! horror!) Auchterarder itself?

Edinburgh is probably the only place in Scotland most of the "anarchist" protestors have heard of.

(Someone posted on the Edinburgh LJ group that many of the Scottish protestors were rather annoyed with the more provocative protest groups, all of whom are small London-based groups)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 4 July 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

The latest word from the police.
http://www.lbp.police.uk/press_release/articles/2005/July/04/5.htm

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 4 July 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

I saw a Womble with "Keithy Weithy" written on the back of his leather jacket in studs.

Edinburgh - lots of little alleys to escape down and insult the police from a safe distance - only to be grabbed by a ghost, and bummed.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Monday, 4 July 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Grabbed by a ghost, and bummed or a goth, and bummed

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 4 July 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

I've only seen a couple of the clown army today.
There's been a load of graffiti done all over the university buildings in George Square over the weekend.
Apparently it's all kicked off a bit down at Princes St.
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=736612005&20050704153114

― Greig (treefell), Monday, 4 July 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

The goths in Edinburgh are all friendly goths.

― Tech Support Droid (ForestPines), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

As long as they're not attacking the Central Music Library and I can get from there to Waverley I'll be Ok but who knows what's going on right now

― mms (mms), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

According to the Radio Scotland news there are two large groups of protestors - one in Princes St Gardens and one at the foot of the Mound both are being contained by the police. The reporter says it's peaceful at the minute.

― Greig (treefell), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Still unsure as how i'm to get home. My mum stays at Newington so in the worst case scenario i could go there but i'd rather go to my own place (near porty).

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

One of my work colleagues has just gone down to Waverley via the Mound (being nosy). He says there are riot police, but that they let him through fine.
I don't know what the story is with buses and road closures and that though.
I get the train home, so hopefully won't get any hassle.

Greig

― Greig (treefell), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

i hear it;s just turned into a full-scale riot

― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

"...And there are the people that can't separate the authority from the people who have the authority vested in them. I think you see that a lot in the demonstrations, because they have that concept that the law and the law enforcement are one. Actually, the people are demonstrating against the police department. Actually, against policemen!"

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

One anarchist from Sussex said: "I don't have a problem with violence against property because the people with the money can pay for it to get it fixed.

"We're all autonomous individuals."

And I bet this "anarchist" has a double-barrelled surname and a seven-figure family trust to live off.

Hopefully if I can find his address details I'll come down to Brighton with the lads and smash up his flat and see how he likes it.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't know about anarchists in the UK, but the almost all the Finnish anarchists I know (and I still count myself as one, even thought I haven't been that active lately) are rather poor. Smashing their apartment really is different from smashing the windows of a McDonalds both on material and symbolic level.

And I do think damaging property is morally acceptable, but only when it's purpose is to cause monetary loss to unethical businesses such as fur farms, not if it's used just to terrorize people. I don't accept any sort of physical violence, except for self-defence. I think most anarchists agree on this, but unfortunately there's a small minority that doesn't. You shouldn't let them ruin the reputation of all anarchists though.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

anarchists in the uk are usually stinking-rich public school trust fund slumming-it-for-12-months-before-going-off-to-goldman-sachs-at-100k per week types. so actually when they decide to smash the windows of a mcdonalds, for example, all they're doing is using the standard might of the upper classes to terrify the lower orders, viz. the rock-bottom waged people both working and eating in the place. i don't see how this is on a moral par with, say, leading the blacks to the legislature in pretoria and getting shot in the process.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

they ripped up gorgeous beds of flowers! so unnecessary! it hurt to watch! sure, throw a rock through starbucks, but flowers???? awwww...

― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Flowers are bourgeous repression and exploitation of the sexual reproduction of plants! No more vegetative prostitution! Down with flowers!

― MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

I was checking out the flower beds on the bus to work this morning - they don't actually look that ravaged considering.

The thing that got me was seeing them tearing up the memorial benches - a sure sign i'm getting old.

― leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i don't see how this has any politico-moral superiority to a bunch of kid thugs vandalising the local cemetery. it's got nothing to do with respect for the feelings and memories of others, it certainly has nothing to do with helping eradicate poverty in wester hailes, let alone africa - it's just glorified thug violence and hooliganism borne out of impotent envy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

anarchists in the uk are usually stinking-rich public school trust fund slumming-it-for-12-months-before-going-off-to-goldman-sachs-at-100k per week types.

*hums it*

Nah. It doesnt scan.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

and by "impotent envy" i mean from the daily mail "they're having better lives than us" perspective. it's parallel with foxhunting.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

There is an incredible amount of impotent envy going on on this thread. However, it's not coming from the protesters.

― MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

yeah. i hear a bunch of local neds spotted the golden opportunity to throw things at coppers and joined in. classic. it was them and the crazy hard-core italians who got violent - or so said the organising anarchist group's leader. amazing how organised the so-called anarchists are these days...

― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

I heard about the local neds joining in, i suppose they need a bit of the old ultraviolence to tide them over in the close season.

― leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

i suppose the irony here is that if this had been the aftermath of an old firm clash it would have been moaned about for half a day and then forgotten.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

MARCELLO CARLIN IS A MOUTHPIECE OF THE OPPRESSOR! SMASH THE CARLINS!! VIVA LA WOMBLES!

― vitcoria, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

hey i dig the wombles! chris spedding played guitar for them you know!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

as long as they don't write into the metro complaining about it. oh wait... yes they will. gah

― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

ah but the metro letters page is made up, just like the nme letters page of old!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

What's really shocking is that the Kaiser Chiefs PREDICTED THIS.

― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

only a few letters, when there are spaces needed filling

oh yeah... some anarchists are supposed to jump off a bridge over the m80. wonder when that is? hmmm

― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

well let's hope there are some big combine harvesters whirring their way under the bridge when they do so.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

the politics of jumping off a bridge

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

yes! and even some of the same people!!

(hart crane and mary wollstonecraft not to thread, obv)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

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That's fair enough but Anarchism is meant to be ground up. trying to impose anarchism by violence and petty thuggery (or by any means really) is one of those fucking for virginity type situations

mark, it's shorter than the bible, the dictionary and the yellow pages. QED a short book by the standards of books, on average.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

WARD, Colin. Anarchism. A Very Short Introduction

Oxford University Press, October 2004. 141 pages. Paperback ISBN : 0-19-280477-4

Book Description

What do anarchists want ? Can anarchy ever function effectively as a political force ? Is anarchism more ’organized’ and ’reasonable’ than is currently perceived ? Colin Ward explains what anarchism means and who anarchists are in this illuminating and accessible introduction to the subject.

Synopsis

The word ’anarchism’ tends to conjure up images of aggressive protest against government, and - recently - of angry demonstrations against bodies such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. But is anarchism inevitably linked with violent disorder ? Do anarchists adhere to a coherent ideology ? What exactly is anarchism ? In this Very Short Introduction, Colin Ward considers anarchism from a variety of perspectives : theoretical, historical, and international, and by exploring key anarchist thinkers from Kropotkin to Chomsky. He looks critically at anarchism by evaluating key ideas within it, such as its blanket opposition to incarceration, and policy of ’no compromise’ with the apparatus of political decision-making. Among the questions he ponders are : can anarchy ever function effectively as a political force ? Is it more ’organized’ and ’reasonable’ than is currently perceived ? Whatever the politics of the reader, Ward’s argument ensures that anarchism will be much better understood after reading this book

(anyone read this book ? is it any good ?)

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

the bible's shorter, surely? or maybe that's cos of the paper they print it on. but kapital (i can't remember the details of the composition of II and III -- one reason i've given up trying to be a marxist is this kind of thing) is about ??1750pp??.

chomsky is an anarchist?

i like the vsis. i did have a story about that book, but have forgotten it.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

Kapital is NOT shorter than The Bible!

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Yes, many years ago. i should dig it out and read again.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

chomsky is an anarchist, yes

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

perhaps I recall only the abridge audio version read by kenneth williams.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

(wasn't being rhetorical -- genuinely ignorant here)

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, the whole mystery of the form of value lies hidden in this elementary form don't it? Its analysis, therefore, is our real difficulty missus.

'Ere, two different kinds of commodities (in our example the linen and the coat NO STOP MESSIN ABOUT), evidently play two different parts (like me with that loathsome wretch Welles in Moby Dick - I had to run all the way back home for the barclays) etc. etc.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

my largest-print copy of the bible = c.1130 pages
my penguin classics copy of kapital vol.1 = c.1130 pages!!!

the first has larger pages but the second has smaller print

even inc.vols 2 and 3 kapital is unfinished surely?

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

Das Kapital is shorter than the Bible. I know this because I used to terrify my teachers and fellow students (at a Christian school) by ranting portions of it at people at the schoolbus stop. (Leave me alone, I was 15 at the time.) So I would have been carrying both Das Kapital and the Bible and Das Kapital was smaller.

So there.

― MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Wait, I am very wrong and my memory is playing tricks on me. It was the Communist Manifesto which I used to recite on the school bus. Not Das Kapital.

The Communist Manifesto is indeed short. No idea about Das Kapital.

― MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

com man = the hobbit to kapital's LoTR

"In a hole there lived a SPECTRE HAUNTING EUROPE"

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

It was good for scaring the nuns and typical nice suburban prep school parents. :-)

― MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Marcello will confirm that "The Kenneth Williams' Diaires" is longer (and funnier) than both

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Duly confirmed.

"I was entranced by my image in the mirror this morning, and realise that my hair looks better longer; it frames the fragile pale beauty with favour."

Next sentence:

"Cut me bleedin' toe with the nailclipper."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

I still don't understand - why Edinburgh? Why not Perth, Crieff or (shock! horror!) Auchterarder itself?

aldo gets his wish today as the "anarchist" hordes are expected to descend on Auchterarder High Street, possibly to smash up small family businesses as part of the fight against Capitalist Oppression.

Did "Make Poverty History" become "Anarchy"? Or is it the case that the anarchists are a bit miffed about Rich Man Bob hijacking their protests and have decided to reassert themselves?

do you have any idea what anarchism means?
Some people are quite precious about other people interpreting their isms aren't they?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

leave perth alone! desmond carrington lives there!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

the "anarchist" hordes are expected to descend on Auchterarder High Street

So they should, the tearooms are very reasonable.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

They'll be in need of tea having come from Edinburgh, the home of "You'll have had your tea?"

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Plastic cups might be in order all the same. You know how clumsy these anarchists get.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

They'll be OK, there's no John Prescott to empty them over.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

It's funny how most people's perception of anarchism (chaos/disorder/violence) has more in common with life under a capitalist society. It's very funny indeed... (xpost to many posts)

What's really shocking is that the Kaiser Chiefs PREDICTED THIS.
I should've expected to see that, but I didn't, and I really had to restrain myself from spitting my orange juice onto the monitor.

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Did "Make Poverty History" become "Anarchy"?

Can't anarchists be considered about poverty? The point of demonstrations is to draw attention to some issues, and if "make poverty history" is the thing on people's lips right now, why not use it?

Some people are quite precious about other people interpreting their isms aren't they?

No, but when people talk about anarchism, I'd hope they'd have something more than caricature image of anarchists in their head. So when I read things like "it's amazing how organised the so-called anarchists are these days", I assume some folks aren't exactly informed about what anarchism as a political movement is.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Tuomas, I think you'd like/appreciate this quote.

"The wildest dream that ever entered the heart of man is the dream that mankind can ever help itself through an appeal to law, or to come to any order that will not result in slavery wherein there is any excuse for government." --Voltairine de Cleyre

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Did "Make Poverty History" become "Anarchy"?
Can't anarchists be considered about poverty?

Of course they can! The point I was making was about how this is being reported. The media won't report on it as concerned anti-famine humanitarians throwing rocks at the polis - so the protesters have been renamed "anarchists" again.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

voltairine de cleyre's submission to the name given her by her parents contains a v.succinct challenge to anarchist philosophy: viz just bcz someone made you doesn't make it bad

voltairine de cleyre: COOLEST NAME EVER!!

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

She not only had the coolest name ever, but (in my valueless opinion) she was pretty remarkable all around (even if depressed to the point of being suicidal from time to time).

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

That is cool, like finding out Marat Safin actually was named after Marat!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Whoa. That's trippy!

If I ever do have a daughter somehow (as I don't want children of my own at all, even though some would argue that I'll grow into the sort of person who SHOULD have children), I'd love to name her Voltairine for Miss de Cleyre.

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

the revolutionary soul of the future belongs to NHS managers

― fuck ilx, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

africa, fwiw, actually had lots of very complex and differentiated and long-lived state-structures for centuries on centuries prior to the onset of direct trade with europe. reversion to "traditional" values in south africa, e.g., now, means substitution of witch-doctors for lack of real doctors, rise in tribalist violence, belief that strange herbal remedies will prevent AIDS, etc.

african history is harder to piece together than elsewhere, but it was very long, rich, bloody, and with plenty of exploitation, domination, and slavery to boot.

not to say that sustained trade with europe made things any better (in many ways it did the converse) but nonetheless.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

the make poverty history organisers and the anarchists are two seperate groups. in fact, there are loads of groups involved. and the anarchists are self-confessed anarchists; they weren't randomly labeled so. tho they've distanced themselves from much of yesterday's violence.
forgive me tuomas, but i've been involved in many, many protests and such in my politically active days, and i've become a bit jaded by a lot of these anarchist groups. now that i've crossed over to the other side, i'm more cynical than ever. ah well.

― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

ahahaha protester spotted asking a policeman directions to the nearest anarchist camp

― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

There's something happening on Lothian Road - it's crawling with police and the western approach road is shut off. There's about 15 police vans on Festival square.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

The motorway around Stirling seems to have been shut down. Roads have been closed, partly down to protestors staging sit downs, and also the police stopping everyone. Apparently some eejits have trashed Burger King and there was a flashpoint at the Granada services. They're really not doing the majority of protestors any favours.

― Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

They are improving roadside gastronomy though.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

Listening to Radio Scotland this morning has been a little exasperating. Fortunately the fuckwits who bang on about the great unwashed have been kept to a minimum, but you're also getting people complaining about the anarchists and anti-globalisation protestors, how nasty they are compared to all the nice people who marched on Saturday (even though many of those same protestors were involved with the MPH march, if not organising it). Fortunately other callers said most protestors were walking along the road minding their own business.
As much as I support the protest against G8, I wonder how wise it is to try and shut it down? Blair et al are already safely at Gleneagles. It's the ordinary people who're being disrupted - not exactly great PR for the cause.

― Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

Desmond Carrington on Radio 2 last night, who lives and broadcasts just up the road from Gleneagles, expressed his fervent wish to go and throw a few bricks through the G8 premises. Astonishing stuff!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

Until the anti-globalisation protestors get helicopter cunships the chance of shutting down the summit is minimal. Block the roads and people arrive y the far more damaging means of helicopter.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

or hijacked aeroplane(s)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

Apparently, Skoda dealers and chip shops in Stirling represent a threat to the world. Well, what other excuse could there be for trashing them?

I shudder to think of the scale of evil that this innocent motorist presents.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41271000/jpg/_41271019_windowsmashed203.jpg

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

chip shops! how DARE they!?! where are they gonna get lunch?

― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

what they were seriously blocking the roads because cars are bad for the environment???!!!???!!!???!!! jeepers.

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

well think of those poor tortured potatoes. some of them look like jimmy somerville.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

hhehe i like watching them being chased into the woods, running with the coos

― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

is it a basic human right to march?

― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Events kicking off throughout edinburgh. Princes st shut to traffic. Scotsman webcam pix here http://webcams.scotsman.com/?id=2.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

The chip shops in Stirling are rank though. As long as they haven't bricked Corrieris on Causewayhead Road.

― Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

oh this is so fun

― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

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