Delaware vs. Rhode Island

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Small, one major city in each (apparently), still have two senators each, surely both full of secrets. If they were to declare war on each other, who would win? (It is presumed that the Noize dudes would fight with their amps but it is not clear if they would want to destroy RI in order to save it.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

There is a larger mob presence in Rhode Island, ergo they would win.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but aren't all the banks in the world secretly based in Delaware? They must have robot zombie armies tucked away in the south of the state with the drug runners.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

No, it's all CORPORATIONS, not just banks who are headquartered in Delaware.

― MIS Information (kate), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Then they must have even MORE robot zombie armies!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Providence vs. Wilmington
Newark vs. Newport
Dover vs. Cranston

FITE!

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, I'm so scared of zombie accountants.

They mayor of Providence had the chief of police kidnap and beat his ex-wife's boyfriend. I think they're a little more hardcore.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

???? vs. Throwing Muses

― MIS Information (kate), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

No, it's all CORPORATIONS, not just banks who are headquartered in Delaware.

Yup, no corporate income tax there.

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, I'm so scared of zombie accountants.

Well, they could gum you to death.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Talking Heads vs. George Thorogood
Throwing Muses vs. George Thorogood

We all know the answer. xxxpost

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

I mean, come on -- "Bad to the Bone" can't stand a chance against "Dizzy" or "Once in a Lifetime"!

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

http://greaterboston.tv/features/feature_images/gb_091003_cianci_b.jpg

DO NOT FUCK WITH THIS MAN

― The Ghost of Buddy Rolls Deep (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Damn. That shit's insane, Dan!

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

Is George Thorogood the only Delaware musician of consequence?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Gov. Donald Carcieri (R - RI) vs. Gov. Ruth Ann Minner (D - DE)

From what I can tell, probably so.

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Cianci was re-elected mayor after receiving probation on the kidnapping charge. He was then convicted of racketeering and sent to jail.

GO PROVIDENCE!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Man, out here the corruption is almost sweet and delicate (I'm thinking of San Diego's own Roger Hedgecock.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Delaware Bay vs. Narragansett Bay

Fucking hell! They re-elected him?

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Welcome, my son, to the machine.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

One of our former mayors recently ran over an elderly woman and killed her.

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

HEDGECOCK!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

http://paulakelly.com/band-microsite/images/delaware.jpg

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

nice missing gun on that cover

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Fucking hell! They re-elected him?

Friend of mine is from Providence: They LOVE him. Also, people from Delaware aren't exactly excited to tell you they're from Delaware, whereas all the people I've met from Providence are pretty quick to tell you that it's basically the best city in America.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

TS: Buddy Cianci vs Marion Barry

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

fuck, yes! they removed the gun! thats terrible!

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Cianci's wanted to remake the public image of Providence as "The Renaissance City," which nicely dovetailed into the Italian community's Old-World pride and his own Machiavellian style of executive politics.

If it wasn't for Cianci, Providence would just be another dried-up industrial wasteland -- like every major city in Connecticut, for example.

Go Providence.

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

ive been through both of these states (in delawares case, many times), yet have never really stopped

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Apparently Cianci and Brown University didn't get along very well. I heard some amusing anecdotes about city-hired tow trucks divebombing the Brown campus and towing 75% of the cars parked in the neighborhood, regardless of whether they were illegally parked or not.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

It seems pretty obvious to me that R.I. wins, if only for Providence and Newport. Wait, isn't Mystic Seaport in R.I. as well? What the fuck is in Delaware???

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Well, I have cousins who live in Delaware. Other than that...

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Even the corporations that are "based" in Delaware aren't really in Delaware.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Mystic Seaport is in Mystic, Connecticut. Maybe 40 minutes over the RI border? Although most of Rhode Island can be reached in a 40 minute drive from anywhere else in Rhode Island, it's not that far, really.

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Hell, I'll still say Rhode Island, even though they've got a Republican governor and despite Cianci's dealings.

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

More potential issues, though -- First State vs. Thirteenth State? Lord de la Warr vs. Roger Williams?

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Zen Guerilla vs. some RI band

RI in a heartbeat anyway. i cant stand those smug "tax free" delawareans.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

RISD vs UDel

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Roger Williams, hands down. xpost

http://philipcmarshall.net/providence/Images/RI_Pvd_roger_williams_1_2.jpg

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

... it almost looks like the statue is making the "wikiwiki" record-scratching motion in that picture. perhaps beat-matching.

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

I haven't been to RI. I like Delaware's beaches. Advantage: Delaware.

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Scratching in 1640 -- xpost

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Rhode Island has fucking great beaches.

Also:

David Cicilline (born 1961) is Mayor of Providence, Rhode Island. He was the first openly homosexual Mayor of an American state capital.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Is George Thorogood the only Delaware musician of consequence?

Tom Verlaine and Richard Hell, I think (both of whom crush David Byrne). So one point for Delaware.

Rhode Island, however, was founded by my favorite Calvinist theologian, Roger Williams. I don't know Delaware's contribution to Calvinist theology, but I suspect no one would match Williams.

So, even so far.

Isn't Jon Spencer from R.I.? Don't know if that will tip the balance, though I was a Pussy Galore fan back in the day.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

RHODE ISLAND WOULD KICK DELAWARE'S PANSY ASS!
wow. sorry about that. unusual show of home pride.
we've got the italian mob, the irish rumblers, the freakin' puerto ricans, the scary ladies with big hair and long nails... not to mention our life-sustaining hot weiners, clam cakes, dell's lemonade and coffee milk... and FAMILY GUY and... our very own vocabulary allowing us to communicate in code, an added bonus when coordinating attacks. we've also got the Navy at our fingertips and a kick-ass coastline and veritable armada of leisurecraft, ready and willing to defend.

― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Dahlin's feistiness combined with Glasgow drink will make next Monday and Tuesday's FAPs grand affairs, I predict.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

A classic episode of Super Chicken begins with two pilots in the cockpit; the pilot says "We should be ready to land in Providence now." The co-pilot looks out the window and says, "But, there's nothing there!" The pilot says, "That's Providence all right," and puts the plane down into what turns out to be the ocean. Then we jump to a few weeks later, when Super Chicken, driving his jalopy in Connecticut on the way to the Newport Jazz festival, where he is to play his horn, arrives at the Rhode Island border to discover ocean where the state had been. The state had been missing for some time - kidnapped for ransom by the bad guys - though up to this point no one had noticed.

(This doesn't necessarily reflect my own opinion of Rhode Island, where I saw the New York Dolls twice in 1973.)

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

There is a larger mob presence in Rhode Island, ergo they would win.

a different sort of "mob" in rhode island provoked a constitutional crisis during the early part of the 19th century!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Teach me lawyerboy.

― no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

i don't know anything about rhode island. i know a little bit about wilmington, though -- the business district is boring, a ghost town after hours; the rest of the town is a big, rough & nasty ghetto.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

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― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 21 May 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

So I'm at my mom's in Groton, CT. I'm thinking of driving up to Providence today and tomorrow. Anybody have anthing to add to this thread? Is Armageddon still the big record store? What's the best neighborhood to just wander around in? My sister works at the RISD art museum. What's there to do in that area?

Also, what's the cheap, happening neighborhood in Providence? What's Pawtucket like? Thank you, ILX.

― Arthurrr (Arthur), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Armageddon is maybe the only game in town as far as good record stores go. No more record stores on the east side at all, i think. except maybe that one near wickenden. when you're at the RISD museum go to geoff's superlative sandwiches.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

pawtucket is like an armpit.

― Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

There are sweat glands with hairs growing out of them?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

there aren't really any "cool" walkable neighborhoods; you kinda need a destination

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

There's "cool" blocks

― lord pooperton (ex machina), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

One day in 1997 a few of my high school friends and I decided to bunk class and go to an afternoon Pawtucket Red Sox game. On the way we were stuck in traffic beside a crazed Vietnam vet in a camo-painted minivan who kept making faces at my ... easily riled ... friend. Said friend felt it appropriate to make faces back and chant the Black Mass (I might be exaggerating this part) out the window to Vietnam Vet. Since the automotively incompetent, Very Christian Girlfriend of Riled-up Friend was driving our vehicle, it became of sudden concern when the Vietnam Vet decided to run us off the road. For the better part of 2 miles we wound through Pawtucket playing chicken with an insane duffer and a wretched driver. Easily Riled Friend had the sliding door of the minivan open; yelled epitaphs out the gap, and angered the Vet to a seriously scary degree. We only escaped when we convinced Very Christian Girlfriend to run a series of red lights and drive four wheels up on the curb, which was -- we found out -- "the worst thing she'd ever done." Ergo, Pawtucket sucks.

― Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

I think the worst thing she ever did was that fucking website. Possibly defending Singapore or child labor...

― lord pooperton (ex machina), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Or the night she peeled off the edge of her car jumping the median strip on the way to SS' house and almost killed PM?

― Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

oh, MilFcGee

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Ah the fun times.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

i'm trusting that the vietnam vet wasn't his dad

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

or JF's

― lord pooperton (ex machina), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, Rhody's *full* name is:
Ia! Ia! R'hode Island and Ph'rovidence Fhtagnations
But it cannot be properly pronounced with human vocal cords.

― shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

PM's dad in the movie of our lives:

http://www.kinoweb.de/film98/EnemyOfTheState/pix/esc.jpg

― lord pooperton (ex machina), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dave are you going to be here for the V∞/LB show?

― lord pooperton (ex machina), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

jon, if you can front for me, i will pay you back for tix (unless it's sold out)

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Neah. I only really travel for two bands, and Bolt is #3.

― shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Bummerz :(

Andrew, just buy tickets online

― lord pooperton (ex machina), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

ok fine :P

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

pawtucket is like an armpit.

and that is exactly how me and my buddies referred to it back in the 70s. Some things just don't change. Actually, Pawtucket used to have a beautiful theater called the Leroy. Now there's a f#@king Wallgreens super drugstore in it's place. How posh.

― jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

The Buddy Cianci TV series is no more.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I have doubts about the future of Brotherhood, though it looks like it's going to get a second season.

(Remind me again, how many TV shows are based in Delaware?)

Underdog wrapped shooting a couple of months ago in Providence, and Evening is still shooting, I think.

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://designsponge.blogspot.com/2006/10/risd-student-design.html

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― roc u like a § (ex machina), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2006/10/11/exhibit_tries_to_recapture_magic_of_fort_thunder/

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid23545.aspx

http://www.thephoenix.com/slideshows/wunderground/default.asp

http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid22519.aspx

http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid22525.aspx

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

No one ever talks about the magic of Wilmington, do they?

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

As posted over in Idolator just now:

A friend of mine grew up there. From time to time, she comes up to me says "Dick, I know I've said this before, but it bears repeating: if I die, I don't care what anybody says--doesn't matter if it's friends, family, or the pop--whatever you do, YOU CAN'T LET ME GET BURIED IN DELAWARE. I would rather they throw my body in an IHOP dumpster than go back."

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

"Or, imagine, being able to be magically whisked away to... Delaware. Hi. I'm in Delaware."

― Z S, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

Listen to this radio interview between WPRO's John DePetro's morning show and Executive Director of Emergency Mgmt. Agency Director Robert Warren:

http://www.630wpro.com/Article.asp?id=533869&spid=18074

The back story is that there was a major snowstorm last Thursday that lasted all afternoon and left staggering gridlock throughout Providence (all of this happened while Governor Carcieri was overseas in the Middle East to see RI troops). Some of my friends were stuck in traffic for 7 hours.

Warren was fired the next day (presumably, I would imagine this interview had something to do with it).

― Joe, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

I love RI.

― ENBB, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

Good times in Providence.

On the air, Mr. Cianci, 66, tends to tiptoe past the circumstances behind his racketeering conviction (other than to joke that he has a pet dog named Rico); past the corruption that infected his administration, reflected in the F.B.I. videotape of his top aide taking bribes; past the police scandal in which favored officers received advance information about tests for promotions.
Instead, he gleefully attacks Mayor Cicilline and his police commander, Dean M. Esserman. Intermixed with sharp analysis and legitimate criticism — of the city’s poor response to a snowstorm, for example — are taunts and half-truths, released into the radio air like toxic puffs.
When referring to the mutual admiration between the mayor and the police chief, he has played a recording of Barbra Streisand and Frank Sinatra singing “I’ve Got a Crush on You,” while his on-air partner has talked about a “man-crush.”
When asked about this, Mr. Cianci says his job is to be an entertainer, and his on-air persona should not be confused with the real — and changed — Buddy Cianci. Besides, he adds, because he cannot help himself: “I do think they like each other.”

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:07 (seventeen years ago)

heard a couple of old women at the local stop & shop discussing his radio show -- apparently on the show he's something of a self-styled critic of local gov't corruption. baffling in the extreme, but not so baffling as the fact that he's still so adored around here; those two biddies couldn't trade his praises enough.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

at least he's finally ditched the rug

http://www.lockhartsteele.com/blog/archives/2003_07_buddy.jpg

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:22 (seventeen years ago)

the whole "man-crush" thing is pretty lame immigrant queer-baiting; cicilline is gay

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:25 (seventeen years ago)

pix pls!!!

― ian, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:26 (seventeen years ago)

of cianci, that is.

i miss RI.

― ian, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:26 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.rigreenways.org/album/btw/cianci-b.jpg

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)

http://images.radcity.net/6651/2172141.gif

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:30 (seventeen years ago)

damn he looks evil.

― ian, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:39 (seventeen years ago)

wowowow i can't believe toupee-less cianci.

― horseshoe, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:43 (seventeen years ago)

Didn't age too poorly, but looked shitty to begin with.

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 28 April 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

but not so baffling as the fact that he's still so adored around here;

I share your bafflement (as a non-native who's only lived here the past several years): "Aw, I don't think he's such a bad guy. They're all crooks--he just got caught."

Huh?

― Joe, Monday, 28 April 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

I *do* think he looks a lot better without the toupee, though.

― Joe, Monday, 28 April 2008 20:51 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, though lots of folks here consider open corruption to be the only fairness they will ever know

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 April 2008 21:15 (seventeen years ago)

nine years pass...

A random claimant on Twitter says the state motto of Rhode Island is "I know a guy."

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 July 2017 03:56 (eight years ago)

seems more national

― mookieproof, Saturday, 15 July 2017 04:07 (eight years ago)

Maybe it grew from there.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 July 2017 04:10 (eight years ago)

four years pass...

https://bevlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/scrapple.jpg

Off the Hook Scrapple-Flavored Vodka, "assembled from parts in Smyrna, Delaware."

Not sure whether this gives the advantage to Delaware or Rhode Island.

Delaware can claim the Dogfish Head Brewery, but given its multiple IPAs I'm not sure that's an asset.

― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:16 (three years ago)

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