now we talk about fantastic 4 movie!

a small car pile-up on a bridge
a guy with a bottle of liquid nitrogen and a metal mask
THE MEDIA

Somebody save me. I don't care how you do it.

Bullshit!

why do you start threads about your splotchy razor bumps and girls who wont fuck you?

And a TOWER. I mean, WTF? Batcave I can understand. Skyscraper I cannot.

I will never see this movie.

Check yr received spandex preconceptions at the door, plz.

And, yeah, it'll disappoint, but I saw Chiklis do the clobberin' time line during a preview yesterday, so I'm OK w/ some suckage.

And BULLSHIT, those Lee/Kirby Fantastic Four comics are some of the best comics ever made in any genre. And the recent Mark Waid run is an instant classic. Seriously, you're out of your mind if you're going to dismiss the FF, easily one of the five best superhero concepts of all time along with Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and the X-Men.

I've read the cheapo black&white reprints and I agree. Perhaps, though, the movie suffered for lack of Namor.

Anyway, my idle typing.

i thought it was great fun, extremely enjoyable and just the sort of thing (just one of the sorts of things) i want out of superhero comicbook movies. it was quick, involving, a little touching. slight tinges of hope, joy, fear, menace, wonder, at the right moments.

i didn't think the previews boded especially well but i figured they just took the lamest possible stuff to make the preview conform, for some reason, to the standards for previews. and since they give most of the quips and gags to johnny, i went in kind of set against his character, or not expecting much from it, since i was more interested in seeing chiklis, alba, and especially julian mcmahon in the roles they have. but they played it really well. somehow johnny ended up being way more two-dimensional than i expected (reed too i guess, i had no interest in him - elastic? whatever), and the group's instability was good - the way they were unsure about how to present themselves to the reporters, or the way they started infighting in public in the scene where the thing crushes johnny's car.

i liked batman well enough, i guess (i saw it twice), but compared to this it comes off as too thick, too long, not enough room to breathe (and not always in the good way that would suit a batman movie!). a little lumbering. and more hollywooded in some places! ('well, ok, we gotta have a chase scene... and let's have some wisecracks in there somewhere! it'll never sell without wisecracks! what about some toys? gotta have marketing tie-ins!')

Also Anthony upthread is unsubtle but OTM.

It seems like this movie entirely misses the point of everything good about the FF - they are explorers, they should be out encountered extraordinary things. They should have gone into the Negative Zone or something.

But... he couldn't pick up the ring with his giant foam hands! That was tragic man! He lost the only woman in the world who would meet him in a dark alley at night in her lingerie. That's real human drama.

the ring was great! just the kind of thing this movie did well. it conveyed an affecting idea instantly and visually. and i half expected ben to scoop up the ring by smashing his fist into the asphalt in frustration, so having reed pick it up let them reassert his commitment to ben (and of the group to itself).

other nice visual touches:
- the crater johnny finds himself in on the ski slope; they make the jacuzzi joke just fast enough for you to realize that it looks like he's in a jacuzzi, quite naturally, and then cut to the next scene
- the smeared etc. asphalt when the thing is trying to save the fire truck, or when he's fighting later
- multiple, different takes on the consequences of the thing's new weight! he clomps around and etc., some things sag when he stands on them, as expected, but you realize instantly when he enters the bar that everything is bouncing because of the wooden floor
- when doom starts puncturing people's chests with bolts of electricity, they're kind of terrifyingly quick; and the shots don't dwell on this, or on the bodies with holes in them - he's just, ckckckkxxkxkxk, moves on coldly or without e.g. power-mad gloating or whatever
- that scar, combined with just enough clunks and thuds to make you feel as if viktor really was becoming metallic, rather than just a dude with silver-colored plastic glued to his face and hands

somehow, s1ocki, you seem to have a problem with its -lightness-, as in, light fare or light music; but i think that's of a piece with its being light on its feet.

I wasn't planning on seeing this in theatres but I felt like I desperately needed a bit of escapism this weekend, even if the movie ended up being terrible. Though it was goofy and full of plotholes, I ended up liking it a lot more than I thought I would.

The next fanwit to say "OH NO THEY PUT DOOM ON THE SHIP" gets Mylar up their soda hole.

(actually I think yr misreading Barms there David)

My boyfriend liked it a lot too! For the record we went with a straight guy who also loved it, but he loves everything it seems.

also, i am neither gay nor a resident of australia, but then i figure i wasn't being referred to anyway.

Oh, so did I. I didn't mean to give the impression that I didn't like it, it was fun.

yeah - but I'm just judging from the previews and ads.

HAHAHA! the moment my heart sank. I can forgive the appalling lack of fist shaking, but dammit they made him a low talker.

Doom went out like a sucker, and his brooding, brute force antics and, indeed, his powers and extreme metal-ness were an affront to the comic Doom and, more importantly, made the movie much much worse when it could have easily been much much better. At least the running time was almost over before I realized there was nothing to this movie, the first two acts were pretty great!!!!

(Not as terrible as the Hulk and Daredevil movies, though.)

(in, like, a year, I guess)

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113425

Silver Surfer quarters. No shit.

If I win the private screening, I'm suing somebody.

i have been touching my penis to orgasm for days about chris evans

-- anthony, Friday, July 8, 2005 4:21 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link
My mother's in love with Ioan Gruffudd, so of course I imagine I'll be dragged along to seeing it.

-- Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, July 8, 2005 9:44 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

2 for 1

orgasm for days??

this movie was SO BAD

i have been touching my penis to orgasm for days about chris evans

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41393000/jpg/_41393022_evans2_bodygetty.jpg

Director Tim Story: he listens to fanboys.

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This summer, silver is the new gold standard – for movies

haha, i love when entertainment ad copy crosses into the realm of national currency

these were both shit

mostly because dr doom is not supposed to be the absolute nadir of all supervillains ever. so bad.

there are plenty of perfectly entertaining moments but seriously how can any marvel fan sit there and tolerate the emasculation of doom? bleaarrrgh

i know his voice

i have been touching my penis to orgasm for days about chris evans

-- anthony, Friday, July 8, 2005 4:21 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

My mother's in love with Ioan Gruffudd, so of course I imagine I'll be dragged along to seeing it.

-- Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, July 8, 2005 9:44 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

this was a great 1-2 punch btw

i have been touching my penis to orgasm for days about chris evans

-- anthony, Friday, July 8, 2005 4:21 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link
My mother's in love with Ioan Gruffudd, so of course I imagine I'll be dragged along to seeing it.

-- Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, July 8, 2005 9:44 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

-- s1ocki, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:45 (10 months ago) Link

2 for 1

-- s1ocki, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:45 (10 months ago) Link

that's so depressing.

I just saw about 45 minutes of the second movie. SO TERRIBLE.

First Steps is fun - my fave Marvel film for some years and obviously the best FF movie by miles.

It botches Galactus of course. They should've done a smaller scale movie first introducing the generally very enjoyable new cast dynamic and style before moving up to the cosmic big league.