Apostle Paul c/d

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founder of christianity? obfuscator of christs teachings? or both?

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Hater of gays?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

TS: paul vs tertullian

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

And St. Paul, he wrote letters, didn’t he? “St. Paul’s Letter to the Corinthians.” Always writing to the Corinthians. “St. Paul’s letter to the Corinthians – Chapter 1 – Verses 1 to 53. Dear Corinthians, as you can tell from my preamble, it’s gonna be quite a long letter. Here we go: Don’t do bad things, only do good things. Always treat your neighbour like someone who lives near to you. Never put a sock in a toaster. Never put jam on a magnet. Never throw your Granny in a bag. Never suck all the juice out of a vampire. Never lean over on Tuesday…” (takes drag out of joint) “Lots of other things, but I gotta go and have a Mars bar now. Love, Paul (Saint).” (cracks up) Is that how he wrote his name? “Paul (Saint). B.A. honours.”

Yeah, so he wrote this – “All right, that’s the end of the letter…” (mimes folding the letter, putting it into an envelope and licking it close) “The Corinthians… Corinth.” (mimes sending the letter out like a paper plane)

They must’ve been real fucked off over in Corinth, don’t you think? The postman going,

“Come on, one of you Corinthians, gotta take this letter.”

“Oh, fuck off! That’s from old mourner St. Paul, isn’t it? No… I don’t want it, I don’t want it!”

“You gotta take it. Come on, I gotta have a signature for it.”

“Oh, fuck off! It says “the CorinthianS,” plural. Ask someone else. Oh, give it here. What does it say…? ‘Don’t do this, don’t do that… Never put a sock in a toaster? Jam on a magnet…’ Ooh, he’s lost his brain, ain’t he? Whose idea was it to be a pen-pal with St. Paul anyway? That fucking backfired, didn’t it? He’s supposed to stop doing it at about 15, he’s been doing it for years… Come on, Corinthians, come on, general meeting. We’re gonna write a letter back to him, stop all this rubbish.”

“The Corinthians’ Letter Back to St. Paul - Chapter 1- Verses 1 to a million. More letters to follow. Tuesday 28th of something. Dear Paul (Saint, apparently), FUCK OFF! Just fu- who are you? Why do you keep sending these letters? You arrogant bastard, you send a letter to an entire city! What do you want us to do, put these up in a board or something? Just fuck off! You’re coming on like Alistair Cooke, for fuck’s sake! ‘Never put a sock in a toaster,’ what’s all that about? You daft git!

"Love and kisses, the Corinthians. Kiss, kiss – Steve the Corinthian, Fred the Corinthian, George the Corinthian…” (mimes folding letter and sealing it in an envelope)

“There we go – St. Paul… Outside Corinth”

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

"It is better to marry than to burn," oh YEAH?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

St Paul was a cock, but I'm not sure of the validity of the "hey, Christianity would've been super-funky and down with the kids if it hadn't been for that bad old St Paul" argument. Cos it wouldn't.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Now I'm off to buy a can of petrol to conduct an experiment re: that quote.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Friday, 8 July 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

i kind of don't like him, but the zizek defense of him is interesting. however i'm not well read enough in the epistles to know if there's really anything to it or not.

g e o f f (gcannon), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Massive dud.

Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I really do feel that Paul perverted the original, forgiving tone of Jesus' message. It bothers me that so many fundamentalists crib from Paul for their authoritarian views on nmarriage and family, it's as if they worship Paul and not Jesus. I figure that a Christian's duty is to pay attention to the words of Jesus, I mean he's the deity, that's the whole point. I see Paul the same way I see Mohammed--mentally ill people who had a psychotic break, thought God was talking to them, and made impressive lists of rules for their followers.

Please note this is from the Christian point of view, so I don't need any replies saying "the same could apply to Judaism, and to Jesus". I already know that, but happen not to believe it.

Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

the issue with paul is that he argued christs death was more important than anything he did during life.

latebloomer: the Clonus Horror (latebloomer), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Jesus was really only concerned about preaching to fellow Jews and reforming Judaism (like a bunch of other people at at the same time Jesus wasn't very original! Just a garden-variety desert mystic who happened to be lucky with the people he inspired.)

and that's really as his little cult should've stayed. BUT NOOOOOOOOO, paul had turn Christianity into a universal evangelical movement. yuck.

latebloomer: the Clonus Horror (latebloomer), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

It is a damn shame the Corinthians never really sent that letter back.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 9 July 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to see some historical evidence for the arguments made in this thread. Why should we have more faith in Jesus than Paul? Also, Paul was the one who suggested preaching to non-Jews, which is why he got all hissy with Peter. Next.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Saturday, 9 July 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

"Also, Paul was the one who suggested preaching to non-Jews, which is why he got all hissy with Peter"

thats what i implied!

Jesus was really only concerned about preaching to fellow Jews and reforming Judaism (like a bunch of other people at at the same time Jesus wasn't very original! Just a garden-variety desert mystic who happened to be lucky with the people he inspired.)

and that's really as his little cult should've stayed. BUT NOOOOOOOOO, paul had turn Christianity into a universal evangelical movement. yuck.

-- latebloomer: the Clonus Horror (posercore24...), July 9th, 2005.

latebloomer: the Clonus Horror (latebloomer), Sunday, 10 July 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

Kenan OTM - Return to sender, address unknown

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 10 July 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, sorry - pissed.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Sunday, 10 July 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

I believe the answer you're looking for is:

Harry Dean Stanton

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 10 July 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

http://members.aol.com/thelogos/paulmosaic.jpg
http://hotpepper.bradley.edu/~runup71/images/jean_reno.jpg

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Sunday, 10 July 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

He hated women. Total dud. Ruined Christianity for the rest of time.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

twelve years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyOqQZUDdO4

Wes Brodicus, Sunday, 18 February 2018 13:52 (seven years ago)

He's also been a collaborator on creative material and crafted content for a variety of high profile individuals including adventurer Bear Grylls and Isaac Slade of The Fray.

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 February 2018 15:02 (seven years ago)

Seems to me I recall a big fuss a few decades back, where if you listened carefully enough to certain Beatles songs, it was revealed that Paul is dead.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 18 February 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)

Having read Eisenman's James the Brother of Jesus: The Key to Unlocking the Secrets of early Christianity and the Dead Sea Scrolls, I really dislike Paul. Not so sure Paul was identified as the "Spouter of Lies" from Habakkuk Pesher, but its clear that Paul knew practically nothing of the historical Jesus, and was the archetypal self-hating Jew (if Herodians can be called Jews). This page summarizes some of the 1000 pages of argument from Eisenman.

Screaming into the void has never been easier (Sanpaku), Monday, 19 February 2018 02:19 (seven years ago)


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