30 Days (new show from Supersize Me's Morgan Spurlock)

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anyone seen this? it's pretty cool. makes people change their lives for 30 days. i've only seen the have a devout christian dude from West Virginia live with a Muslim family. there was also the make a guy move to the castro and be immersed in gay culture. too bad this is only on FX as it seems to be a pretty cool idea.

http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/30days/main.html

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

!!!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

Do people learn life lessons?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

the wife watched the gay/straight one and she said by the end of the 30 days the straight guy was in dance clubs taking his shirt off and dancing all sexy.

i'd say he learned how to be gay.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Haha a good lesson, I guess.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

alex, were you in Trader Joes SOMA yesterday? if not you have a doppelganger. (i would have said hi, but "you" were walking out the door and "i" was in line).

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

did you see the one where a mother takes up binge drinking to teach her daughter a lesson?

as hilarious as that sounds, i don't see what kind of lesson one could get from that ... isn't one of the reasons behind collegiate binge drinking that you're young and can reasonably fight off the effects of it much better than a 50 year old?

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

"alex, were you in Trader Joes SOMA yesterday? if not you have a doppelganger. (i would have said hi, but "you" were walking out the door and "i" was in line)."

Haha I was not! I have a DOPPLEGANGER!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

(haven't seen it, but) my mom could outdrink that bitch!

xpost. looked like you, same hair and similar glasses.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

I would assume that one could see the eps of this thru the usual channels of acquiring tv eps after they've been broadcast...


Lemme check...

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

Alex, if you ever meet your doppelganger, you must wrestle to the death, according to a friend of mine.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

THEN I WILL BE THE ONE!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm trying to think what situtation would 'teach' me tolerance or something... something with Germans, I reckon.

andy --, Monday, 11 July 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

Live among German shepherds for a MONTH!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

OKTOBERFEST

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

I would like to see how bums live ... and die ... by binge drinking under overpasses.

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

they'd probably have you head to Colorado Springs to intern at James Dobson's Focus on the Family radio show, where you'd learn to be tolerant of those completely intolerant of you, everything you do, and everything you believe.

such a fun show.

actually, this show seems like very differently-framed version of that Fox(or ABC?) show where the weirdos moved into a neighborhood of squares. the one that was killed before it aired.

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

this sounds like every other reality show out there.

president carter loves repetition (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

The best part of the dude's getting drunk and dancing shirtless on the stage in a gay bar was the dressing down (so to speak) he got afterwards. The gay man who was his roomate told him, "If you could walk down this street and not be offended by anything you saw, I'd say that was ok. But you're not there yet." He felt the straight guy was taking unfair advantage of the fact that he has a hott bod, and I'd say he's right.

See, it's a great show like that.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

The first one (which focused on minimum wage and the working poor) was pretty good.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Also, while the straight guy left unconvinced that's it's ok to be gay Biblically speaking (I think maybe because the lesbian pastor of the church made such lame arguments), he left as great friends with at least one gay person. There were hugs and tears when he left. That's something, no?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

This show needs more hamburgers, less hott male bods.

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

xxpost

I think the first one was one of the weakest, because yes, they lived on minimum wage, but there were certain things they didn't get. Like, when you're poor, YOU DON'T RUN TO A DOCTOR FOR EVERY ACHE AND PAIN. Of course they ran out of money! What do they think, health care is some kind of RIGHT in this country?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

What's the incentive for people to be on the show? Do they ever discuss that? I'm always wary of shows that ask people to dramatically change their life and yet act as if that is enough motivation. Then, the presence of the camera and the potential for fame seems like the only motivation and that makes me distrust the authenticity of the whole thing even more. In short, I just want to see a big burlap sack with a dollar sign on it once, and I'll believe whatever crap you're peddling.

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

this sounds like every other reality show out there.

Like what, "The Bachelor"? No, it's really quite good. It's a bit like "Wife Swap" I guess, but I love "Wife Swap".

What's the incentive for people to be on the show? Do they ever discuss that?

Surely there's some coersioc to be on TV, but at least in the case of the guy who took steriods for a month, there was real desire to improve himself. And yes, they dealt with that.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

coersioc = coersion

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

The Onion's take on the show:

30 Days
(FX, Wednesdays at 10 p.m. ET)

Premise: Lifting the high-concept idea from his documentary hit Super Size Me, affable leftist Morgan Spurlock conducts 30-day experiments in empathy. In the first episode, Spurlock and his fiancée Alexandra Jamieson perform a mini-Nickel And Dimed stunt by trying to live for 30 days on minimum-wage jobs. Future episodes feature a Christian hosted by a Muslim family in Dearborn, Michigan, and a homophobe plopped in San Francisco's Castro district.

Humiliation factor: Low. Catchy premise aside, 30 Days' commitment to reality sets it apart from just about every other reality show. Though his conclusions are a little predigested, Spurlock wants to create enlightening and ultimately dignifying experiences that teach people how the other half lives. Hardships are common: In the first episode, Spurlock and Jamieson move into an ice-cold apartment above an abandoned crack house, subsist on a diet of rice and beans, and wait hours in the cold for the bus to take them to menial, backbreaking jobs. These conditions bruise them, humble them, and occasionally put a strain on their relationship, but they rarely have reason for embarrassment.

Insight into the human condition: The "working poor" is one of those designations that shames anyone who believes hard-working, law-abiding citizens are entitled to a piece of the American dream. The country is teeming with them, but when's the last time they got any air time? While it's true that Spurlock and Jamieson are only playing poor for a month, their adventures lead to countless insights on the tragic lapses in the health-care system, the pitfalls of living paycheck to paycheck, and the touching generosity of ordinary people who step up when there's a tear in the safety net.

Summary: Not since Michael Moore's TV Nation has a show rallied so passionately for a leftist political agenda—and on one of Rupert Murdoch's networks, no less. Its concept may hamstring it over the long haul, but 30 Days is more austere and substantial than Moore's show was, and it has a sense of humor, too. Time will tell whether Spurlock is capable of arriving at conclusions rather than telegraphing them in advance, but for now, he's a voice in the wilderness.

Say, do you think he could get "affable leftist" printed on business cards?

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

tho i resent the implication that TV Nation never had a sense of humor. The first season on NBC, especially, was fuckin' funny.

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

TV Nation was very funny, that's an odd thing to write.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

Agreed. When they sent the people dressed as puritans to Capitol Hill? Or the Big Gay Bus Tour? Yeah, that show was golden.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

Taking your commercial documentary and pumping out silly reality shows for a Rupert Murdoch network doesn't seem like an 'affably leftist' thing to do. More like 'affable careerist' maybe.

I didn't appreciate the kind of reality-bending/truth-altering (yes, 30 days of all fast-food will make you fat. so will 30 days of all-french bread, but that's why we don't eat nothing but french bread y'know?) that he had to pursue for whatever you want to call his goal in Super Size Me, this would presumably just be more of the same in smaller chunks.

milo, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

Tho i lost all faith in M.Moore's TV shows during the run of the Awful Truth, where he spent like half-an-ep going on about how Ted Turner owned so much land. like, DUDE, what's the fuckin' point?!

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

i really dislike spurlock.

president carter loves repetition (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

That's a deal-breaker, yes.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)

this would presumably just be more of the same in smaller chunks.

actually, i don't think so. I think that SSM was him doing that to himself just to so the particular health effects of prolonged exposure to that type of food.

i think this show is more of a social laboratory than a health one, with the whole "take people out of their comfortable environments and make them face a different way of living for 30 days".

then again, the one ep has the guy apparently eating steriods & other drugs for 30 days in an attempt recapture lost vigor of youth, so perhaps you're right.

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)

the one ep has the guy apparently eating steriods & other drugs for 30 days

see how much spurlock cares about our health?

president carter loves repetition (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

i really dislike spurlock

Holy crap, so you're the other one. The only thing Morgan Spurlock makes me want to do is murder Morgan Spurlock.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

check the episode guide at the site. Apparently, the guy wanted a return to youth, so Morgan just said, okay, let's try it out.

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the dude once has this amazing swimmer's body, but had turned into a big fat suburban schlub. He volunteered, that was pretty clear.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)

Make that three for disliking Spurlock intensely. Dude radiates sleaze, and it's not just the grease leftover from his Mickey D's binge.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

Even more fascinating was the Real Sports segment on steriods recently. Apparently -- get this -- they don't kill you. They can make you infertile, but shit, I did that to myself voluntarily anyway. Used responsibly, people can and do use steroids until they're quite old.

That was the angle of the piece, anyway. More telling: the FDA, DEA, and really everyone except Congress OPPOSED making anabolic steriods a controlled substance, citing a lack, if not a complete absence, of evidence that they are dangerous. That shocked me. I would not have thought that. Who would have.

And if steroids kill, where are the bodies?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

they don't kill, and i'm not sure of anyone with any medical credibility who would say they do. steroids are used all the time for recuperative purposes.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

altho there's probably some indirect evidence that would maybe link lyle alzado's death to steroid abuse.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

er, Lyle Alzado?
xpost

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

They covered that. There's no evidence at all. They do not cause cancer any more than testosterone causes cancer. And if it does, we're all in trouble.

Also, there's evidence that "roid rage" is either a total myth or a result of extreme abuse of the drug. Like with alcohol.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

there's no evidence of anything that caused alzado's brain lymphoma, kenan. though i'd say his hardcore steroid abuse (at one point spending upwards of $30K a year) since high school doesn't make him the most exemplary "control" subject.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

and there's no reason that steroids, when properly administered for medical reasons by professionals, are not beneficial. a friend i knew whose lung collapsed was put on steroids to recover her strength, for example. but steroid use of the kind now in the sports pages has nothing to do with responsible use by informed adults, administered by health professionals. and no, barry bonds' $15k-a-year "trainer" is not a professional.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

xpost

His status as an athlete does not make him a good poster boy for much of anything medical, though. *He* was the only one who ever linked his cancer to his steriod abuse. He just assumed.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

xpost again

Yeah, I know, but the difference between what we're told about steriods and the facts are wide and long.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

I mean, apparently. The segment surprised me, it really did.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

i'm certainly no scientist by any means, but it seems to me that injecting something into your bloodstream every day, especially if it's highly toxic, is a good way to get lymphoma. it's not very different from my stepmom getting lymphoma from smoking every day (smoke into lungs into bloodstream).

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

BUT IT'S NOT TOXIC. That's the whole point.

steroid use of the kind now in the sports pages has nothing to do with responsible use by informed adults,

How do you know that? I self-administer marijuana pretty frequently, and I don't need a medical professional to tell me how much I can handle.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

I alkso self-administer Jim Beam sometimes, and a doctor nearby might be nice.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

forget it. enjoy your tv-enabled willfullness.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's insulting. (Of course it was meant to be.) TV is always wrong? What?

My revelation seemed obvious to me at the time. "Holy shit, is the government lying to us about the dangers of steriods?" Seems plausible enough.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:17 (twenty years ago)

Besides, it's not TV, it's HBO.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

it's rupert fucking murdoch, you douche.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)

Dude. I'm neither being a douche right now, nor am I in general. I'm just a douche occasionally.

Heads up: you're being a douche right now.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

did i not get the memo where we decided to change the spelling of 'steroids' ?

cousin larry bundgee: the next generation, season two (bundgee), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

maybe that's how fox news spells it, dean.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

anyway i like "rescue me" ok but fuck tv unless there's baseball on anyways.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

Steriods. Marraige. I have a spelling problem. It is likely not drug-related. Anyway, there's no evidence to support such a claim.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

maybe that's how fox news spells it, dean.

What possible stake could Rupert Murdoch have in claiming that steroids are *not* dangerous? If he were so politically connected to his programming to care, which he is not, he would make an effort to toe the Republican party line, no?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)


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