Do You Ever Feel Unreal?

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Or to put it another way, do you ever feel real? I can see the back garden through my window, and hear the music I'm playing, and feel the keyboard I'm typing on, but it all feels absent or dreamlike. I feel like this almost all the time nowadays, as if something separates me from everything around me or as if I'm floating through the world or as if it could all disappear at any moment. Mostly this doesn't bother me but sometimes I'll be somewhere that I know is beautiful and yet I can't quite feel it, can't quite connect with my surroundings. Do you ever feel like a ghost? Do you ever not?

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

There's a lot of people feeling that way at the moment.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

i'm not here, this isn't happening.

thom yorke (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

I feel all *too* real at the moment.

MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

i was just going to say that.

president carter loves repetition (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

.. mainly feeling 'removed' from the situation. More strength to you all.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Being frightened might bring us very close to our own reality. Nothing like adrenalin for nailing you into yourself. It's hardly an ideal for living though. I was watching rabbits lined up alongside the motorway at midnight the other night, I assume they're a ball of racing anxiety all the time.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

ilm wars aside, i think radiohead get that feeling very well.

N_RQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

And I think (please don't take this disrepectfully anybody) that there's something strangely spree-ish about what happens on a day like last Thursday. Part of me, at least, wills on the suspension of everyday rules, like the apocalypse might be the ultimate end of term party. Because I want this flow of daily events that are spitting me out to be disrupted, erupted.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

I accept this is black thinking. I'm just trying to express/confess.

And I do think Radiohead can express that (un)feeling, but from the middle of it anything can express it. As much emptiness in the middle of any record, no matter how happy or obtuse.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

i felt a bit like that after 9/11, but not on thursday.

N_RQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

England is so polite and well organised that even the Apocalypse will be more like a bus queue and less like an end of term party or a riot.

MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

That frightens me. Or bugs me. Sometimes you want to shake people and scream in their face to wake the fuck up. Well, I do.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

a bus queue apocalypse would be much more my scene than a party/riot apocalypse.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

nyc was pretty organized on 9/11. people just wanted to get home to be with their loved ones.

president carter loves repetition (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

I find it strangely reassuring that the English are like this. During 9/11, I spent most of the time in the airport hanging around with two other Brits, because they were less... *hysterical* than the Americans. Any time anyone got really upset or freaked out, they would apply hot caffeinated beverages and a cold compress. Sometimes cultural stereotypes exist for a reason.

MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

people should never equate it with coldness. everyone is this uptight because we'd collapse if we let go a little. that can feel schizophrenic, or unreal i guess.

N_RQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't thinking about those things. Sorry. I feel unreal all the time.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

you mean like a matrix type thing, as opposed to post-terrorism numbness?

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

i do feel unreal at certain times, the summer and spring especially. not in a bad way, in a kind of dangerously, transcendentally mystical way. radiohead catch that feeling at its edgiest, that 'fight club', ballardian, who-the-fuck-am-i extreme. but the obverse is kind of hippyish, and that's how i like to feel.

N_RQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

people on antidepressants experience similar feelings, or so i am told.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

i felt that way more when i smoked a lot of pot and didn't have a job ('was a student').

N_RQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

I never felt that way on anti-depressants, but certainly did on Lithium. Depression itself also makes things seem "not real". In the sense that you can see things happening, but can't engage with them.

MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Dope or alcohol generally make me feel realer. I don't know if the antidepressants are making this worse, I felt it for a long time before I started taking them.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

Chicken and egg, though. Are you depressed because you feel removed, or feel removed because you're depressed?

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

i'd never really thought about it in terms of depression. i think its more a function of the world in general -- or i did, now i'm unsure. but 'hyperreality', which i associate with the ballardian universe of business parks, deadlands around arterial roads, etc, exists, and when i felt most unreal, that was where i was living.

N_RQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Blocked sinuses give me a kind of spacey disconnected feeling.

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

OTM!!!

N_RQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

Not unreal so much as detached and numb.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes i get hit with an overwhelming feeling that i'm not here, and that everything around me doesnt really exist. Then the more and more i think about it the more absolutely unbelievable everything becomes and if i let it, it will pretty much freak me out for a while. Still this doesnt seem to be related to major world events or indeed, to anything in particular.

dmun drive-in (dmun), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

Just re-read the first post again and i can relate it this too...

"I'll be somewhere that I know is beautiful and yet I can't quite feel it, can't quite connect with my surroundings"

My job only enables me to get about 5 hours sleep a night and i work 6 day weeks for 6 weeks then have a week off. Almost the whole time im working i feel unable to connect to my surroundings, and only feel human again when i have a weeks break.


Scrovula, could yours be sleep related too?

dmun drive-in (dmun), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes, it's nice to zone out and not feel real at all. I guess it's what people who meditate want to achieve, existing in the moment and forgetting (not the right word) about everything else.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I'll have to put on Codiene's "Barely Real" EP now.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

As a child I had a persistent fantasy that other people existed solely to entertain / aggravate me, and others have told me they had it too.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Prior to almost having a nervous breakdown in the past I had this (un)feeling of numbness. I could understand why people cut themselves to feel something. After catching up on sleep and simplifying my life some, I felt real again.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

It goes on and on, y'know. But I don't sleep well, this is true.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.bagpipes.net/ut/UnrealTournamentLogo.jpg

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Sometimes I am reluctant, with a bud who's 6-10 years older, to be like "Dude I loved that album/movie/thing with a release date when I was 14!" knowing they'll say out loud (or feel internally) "UGH, I am SO OLD!" (This is usually when I know they'll whine tho.)

I got this, my first taste, sort of, with a coworker who was telling me what "shitty music" he like in sixth grade, like the Slim Shady album. I said it came out when I was in tenth grade and he was like "DUDE YOU are OLD!" inverse, see – I was not like 'ugh I feel so old.' But it was a new sensation that got a hold on me.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:02 (seventeen years ago)

my gf is six years younger : /

it's like all the time.

extremely intoxicated & uncooperative outside a Hסּסּters in Winston-Salem (will), Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:09 (seventeen years ago)

wait this was for the other thread

or not, i guess

extremely intoxicated & uncooperative outside a Hסּסּters in Winston-Salem (will), Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:10 (seventeen years ago)

I don't know how I managed to do this!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:11 (seventeen years ago)

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooops

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:11 (seventeen years ago)

I don't know how people manage to spend so much time looking at themselves in the mirror. Every time I look at my eyes in the mirror for longer than 5 seconds straight, I start to get really freaked out about the pile of gooey brains just behind those eyes, and how I'm essentially just a big moving pile of goo responding to stimuli. Pretty soon I'm turning the light on and off and watching my pupils automatically dilate, and I start to feel like that one comic strip where the guy wonders what he looks like while wiping his ass, so he watches himself wipe his ass in the bathroom mirror just as his father busts in without knocking.

"80s Baby" (Z S), Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:44 (seventeen years ago)

I always feel old like that Abbott, even though I'm not actually old I guess. There are always younger people to meet doing stuff I did when I was their age.

Local Garda, Thursday, 8 January 2009 23:46 (seventeen years ago)

This is not
This is not really happening
You bet your life it is

I certainly used to feel as if my presence anywhere was somehow sort of cosmic blunder.

phlegm brûlée (j.lu), Friday, 9 January 2009 00:32 (seventeen years ago)

Every time I look at my eyes in the mirror for longer than 5 seconds straight, I start to get really freaked out about the pile of gooey brains just behind those eyes, and how I'm essentially just a big moving pile of goo responding to stimuli. Pretty soon I'm turning the light on and off and watching my pupils automatically dilate, and I start to feel like that one comic strip where the guy wonders what he looks like while wiping his ass, so he watches himself wipe his ass in the bathroom mirror just as his father busts in without knocking.

― Z S

For me, ^^this is what strong drugs are like.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 9 January 2009 00:37 (seventeen years ago)

Except for the ass-wiping part.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 9 January 2009 00:37 (seventeen years ago)

ya mushrooms will do this to me too

good first post on this thread. thanks for the accidental revive

+++ (jergins), Friday, 9 January 2009 01:03 (seventeen years ago)

Sometimes yeah I do get a strange awareness of myself as if from outside of my body, without really feeling that I am outside of it. It feels like it should be liberating but it's actually kindof irritating/disconcerting. All that is me, that I usually think of as me is not really me at all. The experience I'm having as an identity doesn't really exist.

gods jangle the key change (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 9 January 2009 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

Also, basic thread concept = salvia d. I.e., unpleasant. Only occasionally get this feeling w/o chemicals, usually after a VERY long, very intense day of screen-work. Like walking home in the dark after 16 on crazy deadlines. Feel like my body is floating through a 3-D movie of the world, and my mind is floating somewhere miles above my body. Actually, in this no-drugs context, the feeling is pretty cool.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 9 January 2009 21:28 (seventeen years ago)

Kinda tentatively coming to terms with this feeling, or exploring it a bit more sanely at least. What's been rough over the last few months has been the same feeling of disconnectedness with my family, but not just like I feel disconnected personally. More like nobody is close enough, or like I only see gaps and miss the connections. Secretly yearning after some kind of mystical/hippy union crap. Or Satori, which may not be mystical crap but try explaining that without sounding full of it.

Birth Control to Ginger Tom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 January 2009 21:58 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.thesciencefair.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/BellJarKnobType_M.jpg

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 9 January 2009 22:12 (seventeen years ago)

When I get to feeling this way, it's as if my chest is folding in on itself; everything collapses down and my mind bends like a praying mantis. It's a second cousin to a panic attack. At least twice a week. Nice to know all we aspies have the same issues.

more ign'ant than thuggin', surely (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 January 2009 22:51 (seventeen years ago)


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