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4 or 5 books at the moment - the passion of michel foucault, which is heavy going but excellent; he kills coppers by Jake arnott- not as good as the long firm, but i'm having difficulty getting into it; liquid lover by john moriarty - beautiful post-alcoholic gay freelance writeer's memoir; libra by don delillo - blah, not nearly as engagin as white noise or as weird as his latest; and the inflatable butch - forgot the author, but fun collection of modern day lesbian vignettes/columns. How about you?

Geoff, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Gravity's Rainbow, John Berryman's Dream Songs, Julio Cortazar's Hopscotch, the Lamb siblings' Tales from Shakespeare, a world history of the 20th c., and some other stuff here and there.

Josh, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

josh - what do you think of hopscotch; I've been about 1/3 of the way through it for the last 6 months and keep forgetting to get back to it...how are you reading it a 2 b, or a 2 b via z, f, y etc. & hvae you read his short stories - as good as borges imo.

Geoff, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

ILM ha ha

I just paid amazon £170+ on booXoR re my own research ... Mediums/Secret Monkey book as mentioned elsewhere (yes it IS research your snidey gets) but I have started none of the others yet...

This weekend I will be mostly reading of Pauline Oliveros interviews...

New Fortean Times has many pages on Pokémon PaNiXoR hurrah!!

mark s, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Geoff - right now, reading it starting at ch. 1 and going through sequentially. Have most recently finished the last "From the Other Side" chapter (the last one where Oliviera is in Paris, I guess), making my way into the "Diverse Sides" section. Not sure yet if I will try Cortazar's recommended second order right away or not - I may give it some time. There are parts that I think are really great but many more that I'm bored by or that I just am not affected by. Too much dubious chinstroking metaphysics for my taste (and I LIKE metaphysics - but not when so much of it is rubbish). That fits the book's plot/setting/characters/etc. I suppose (and probably also somewhat due to its European-by-way-of-Argentina-ness). I was expecting to be more wowed I guess.

Josh, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hmmm...Knut Hamsun "The Wanderer", X-Men, James Kochalka Comics, a Urusei Yatsura book "For Better or Curse"...and a whole lot of books and articles about virtual community and online identity.

james e l, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Libra is so better than WN/Underworld. Me? Currently reading boox on China, 1915-1923.

Sterling Clover, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Currently making my way through Ulysses. When university resumes on Monday, I'll take a look at my reading list for English studies.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

lots of stuff i'm not gonna bother to finish. right now (as i wait for pages to download) "Killer", about Carl Panzram. a life spent wandering around america killing people, robbing them, raping them, burning churches down. getting caught, escaping, killing more people, etc. (read it before). i'm burned on "culture" (except maybe "dirty deeds" by AC-DC), it's no help to me at all. i just read stuff that confirms my stupid ideas - life is bad, people are scum, all that. you'd rather sneer at me & tell me that's CORNY SHIT than try to change my mind, i bet.

duane, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Recently went through a hefty and appropriately critical bio of Napoleon, currently tackling _Miracle of the Rose_ by Genet. My French phase, I guess.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Jacks Book
Stealing Jesus - Saving Christanity from fundmentalsits
Hollywood in Verse

anthony, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Magazines.

D*A*V*I*D*M, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I read about 25 magazines a month . Which ones do you read David.

anthony, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Who wrote the biography, Ned? Was it any good? I am a history fule but looking to expand, and I was thinking of reading some more about the French Revolution after I do, uh, my world history, history of WWII, and "Gotham" (so, in 2005 or so). Just read a few chapters or so on the FR in a world history ca. 1800, was too meager to do anything but interest me in reading further.

Josh, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ah, in that case let me recommend two books in particular, and I'd be interested in hearing others' own preferences:

_Citizens_, Simon Schama -- the chief popular revisionist English- language history of the French Revolution of the late twentieth century, for such it is, by everyone's favorite (or not) _History of Britain_ host. Detailed, with a clear narrative flow and many fascinating anecdotes, its chief argument is that far from being a simple 'ancien regime v. people' conflict, the Revolution was at least at the start a reaction against a monarchy eagerly embracing/ encouraging much in the way of technological development and potential reform, though not at the expense of its own privileges. Spends plenty of time building up a picture of the Louis XVI regime before getting to the Revolution itself, however defined. One of my all time favorite books, though certainly not without its detractors (the main accusation seems to be that it's a conservative-minded text, though I honestly think that's a case of reading the book's interpretation of the past in the terms of today). Wraps up with the founding of the Directory, making it in ways the perfect lead in for:

_Napoleon Bonaparte_ by Alan Schom -- the text I mentioned previously. A recent book (about four years old) and about the same length as _Citizens_, aka long but damn well readable. It goes over his life and death in exhaustive detail, but never losing its key argument -- that Bonaparte, while an honestly fascinating figure worthy of study, was at base and for all his charisma a tyrannical, bloody-minded warlord/mass murderer combined, who used everything and everybody for his own ends from top to bottom and who manipulated everything possible to create an alternate public image for his own time and the future. As a counterpoint to the implicit and explicit valorization Bonaparte receives, especially since he can so easily be identified with French patriotic glory (and since, unlike Hitler, he pursued no open policies of destruction against ethnic groups -- political and military enemies, another matter entirely!), it's astoundingly necessary.

I'd also suggest Lesley Branch's _The Sabres of Paradise_ -- nothing to do with Napoleon, but everything to do with the Murid Wars between Czarist Russia and the Islamic states of the Caucasus in the nineteenth century. If you wanted to know the roots of the Chechnyan conflicts of recent years, this is where to start.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I should also note that my language trips me up again -- my intro for Schama makes it seem like the FR itself took place in the late 20th century! I meant to draw the distinction between when Schama's book came out and, say, Carlyle's.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Citizens really made a fairly confusing conflict clearer without talkign down to me.

anthony, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The account I read (in a book by Olivier Cockfarming "oh let's piss ourselves over how sumptuous the food that THIS ruling class enjoyed was" Bernier) seems to have been pretty clearheaded, according to what you say here, Ned - just too short. Thanks for the recs, will file them away in my atommick brane.

Josh, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Just finished re-reading David Foster Wallace's Girl With Curious Hair and Alan Hollinghurst's Swimming Pool Library. Now starting Postcards by Annie Proulx.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Jeez, Hollinghurst is turning into a popular item. Read _The Spell_ two weeks ago.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

hey punters, i was not just trolling for insults or something, that back there was like a serious HELP! call. someone suggest something for me to read that'll make me feel different 'cause i'm just BURNED ON STUFF & I need to have my FAITH IN STUFF re-instilled somehow. Everything people do seems to me like some sick crappy junky joke & I need something to like, umm, LIKE. c'mon, i'm dying here.

duane, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Uh...try a Jane Austen novel. Everything always turns out right in the end. :-)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

duane - try james robert baker's adrenaline - people killing each other for all the right reasons.

Geoff, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Browsing personal ads on Nerve.com, noticed gals in my target demo. all tend to love A) David Sedaris B) Dave Matthews C) Tori/Fiona. Go figure.

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

NEd, you look like the person to ask a question to. I'm really interested in the history of that great sawth of asia from the black sea and Iran through, Turkestan to Tibet and Mongolia. I'd be interested to find some more histories of that area. Originally turned onto the area by the Peter Hopkirk pop histories.

For starters I like too find a really good book on the russian expansion into asia, and a less anglo take on the Indian northwest frontier expansion and Afgan wars. From there, indulge me, I know very little about ALexander the great or the mongols post genghis. Any ideas?

Ed, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

As Norman Fay will attest, Under The Skin by Michael Faber is an original and twisted little book which winds up being surprisingly moral. I love the Zadie Smith novel and cannot recommend it highly enough, it's a great London snapshot and very funny.

But what do I read? Not enough and too much. I'm a literary editor for one of the Edgy Consumer Magazines I write for and am constantly beating myself up for superficial theoretical knowledge, but have to read at least ten review books each month. And it depresses me that I can't get to more of the books I am sent, which sit on my shelves looking good but don't really get read.

suzy, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

hey Ned, Jane Austen - good suggestion! I was just thinking today I haven't read hardly any of those 19th cent. eng. classics that everyone's supposed to've already read when they were teenagers or whatever & i bet that'd make me feel interested in stuff again. so I will. OK.

duane, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I am reading "101 Ways to Fry a Squid in Vain" by Queen Afluent.

Mike Hanley, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Jane Austen is so proper and boring. Charlotte Bronte called her a cloistered garden. In fact read the Brontes if you need 19th century melodrama. Who else do you have, Dickens, so sentimental he makes me vomit.

anthony, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I keep thinking of picking up that Zadie Smith novel but wonder if it would be that interesting for those of us on the 'merican side of the Atlantic. I am pretty self-centered when it comes to reading.

I just finished Jonathan Lethem's Motherless Brooklyn last week. It quite funny, andan easy read. I think it vers off a bit at the end. But still good. Lately, I've been reading some Rick Bass stories and poetry by Alan Shapiro.

bnw, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I read poetry almost constantly. Its mostly anthologys with a few poet collections to mix it up .

anthony, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I liked the Zadie smith book, some bits are a bit cringeworthy but it is a generally a very clever and very funny book. there are a few in jokes which I don't think someone who hasn't lived in north London would get but they are few and far between. Highly recommended

Ed, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Just finished Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha. It took AGES! I think it was the Pynchon effect rubbing off and making everything else equally different. Otherwise: GR - I'm getting nowhere and fear I'll never make it. Plus educational theory.

the pinefox, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I tht Schama's Citizens was "conservative": it just wipes out the presence of the contituent part of the MAIN playa = the CITIZEN = the "swinish multititude" (in Burke's phrase) = the surging small businessman. I ust wasn;t convinced: I didn't know why it had happened, or — come to that — what HAD happened (apart from what happened to Marie Antoinette or whatever). (I'm not asing for a story which claims that St Juste was actually a saint: just something which explains extreme turbulence and yen for bloodshed in terms of imagined possibility, as well as residual rubbshness...)

His TV progs piss me off too: HE's the one who reads everything in terms of today, where the pinnacle of human yearning = a suburban semi in Pinner and kids able to go to a minor public school. A glib whig, feh.

mark s, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Re Schama. I've found his recent TV series enjoyable when he's talking about stuff I don't know much about and a mite aggravating when I do know a little. He seems to have stolen Norman Davies thunder a little with his new book of the series, which is a shame as I rather liked Davies' The Isles. It's maddeningly incomplete in places, sure, but a pretty good account nonetheless.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

sadly, i am reading Building Scalable Cisco Networks, and for the nest week will probably be doing very little else. after that is over, i shall probably start doestoyevksii's crime and punishment. i have a backlog of around 16 books at home. so little time

gareth, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

white teeth shat me - couldn't get past 25 pages...like a poor imitation of Salman Rushdie imo

Geoff, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

White Teeth's a bit of a funny one. I found it extremely readable, despite the irksome feeling that was rather Rushdie lite. I was puzzled by this, until it was pointed out by one of my old college friends that Smith writes like so many of our other contemporaries wrote and spoke. The familiarity the language makes it almost too easy to keep reading.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Piss, I had a huge long reply here and the computer ate it. Fiddle. Well, in brief:

-- Alexander bios -- Peter Green's _Alexander of Macedon, 356-323 B.C. : a historical biography_, like the Schom biography an examination with a critical eye. I also recommend his hefty _Alexander to Actium_ as a broad study of the Hellinistic world.

-- Russian Asian expansion/Mongols post-Genghis -- unfortunately nothing to suggest off the top of my head, sorry Ed!

-- _White Teeth_ -- very popular here at my campus in southern California, actually! The insular nature of the book as mentioned doesn't prevent it from carrying over, it seems.

-- Austen -- not everyone's cup of tea, as Anthony puts it, but as engaging miniatures in word form, I can't help but love them. Try _Northanger Abbey_ for her satire on the Gothic novel. If you need something more coruscating in your life, do not pass go -- Ambrose Bierce's _The Devil's Dictionary_, one of my all time favorite books.

-- Schama -- I do like Mark S.'s description of his attitude, actually! Might explain why my mom is so taken with him. ;-) That said, I disagree to an extent with his criticism of _Citizens_ -- seems to me that while he might not have concentrated on said businessmen in specific, they were still always there in the discussion, as it were, so perhaps the objection is one of focus? However, I haven't read it in a couple of years, so I won't claim specifics...

-- Other good recommendations:

Roland Huntford, _Scott and Amundsen_, aka _The Last Place on Earth_ -- the astounding mythic-Scott-demolishing study of the race for the South Pole, extremely well-researched and written. Has given Scott supporters cows ever since, but even discounting Huntford's clear narrative bias in favor of Amundsen, for my money the evidence is all clearly presented -- Scott: unplanned, chaotic bungler; Amundsen: calculating, professional explorer. The results speak for themselves.

Adam Hochschild, _King Leopold's Ghost_ -- a heartbreaking read, but a necessary one -- looks specifically at the Scramble for Africa via a study of the Congo Free State, Leopold of Belgium's horrifically run and abused private natural resource reserve passed off via the media as a noble example of civilization. Hochschild further studies the contradictory attitudes of those campaigning against Leopold's labor camp as well as the afterechoes colonization has had in Africa to the present. It pities nobody and takes no prisoners. Thomas Parkenham's _The Scramble For Africa_ is a good general study of the time, but Hochschild is the one you'll remember most.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ditto on Huntford on Scott: Huntford = total thatcherite reactionary BUT the demolition is i. highly entertaining, ii. important abt moralistic delusion. Unfair probably on Scott's immense charm: too many wowed by him in person for this not be a factor. The inside true story of that tent, from pole back to their mortal end: brrrr, in every sense.

mark s, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Is that Huntford's background? Fascinating, I thought he was a Marxist if anything! Certainly he spares nothing towards the late Victorian empire. Guess I had to be there.

I agree that Huntford seems to leave Scott almost nothing, but here and there he acknowledges his gifts -- a good conversationalist and in one telling incident regarding the scientists at McMurdo Sound accompanying the expedition but not part of the naval chain of command, an amiable and enthusiastic participant in general technical debate. Huntford notes that Scott would have been a brilliant scientific popularizer, which suits the positive part of his personality -- but on no account should he have had anything to do with command and responsibility for lives. (My dad was an excellent US Navy officer himself, so I speak from the heart on that one -- you can't have an indecisive, non- planning waffler in charge.)

Other good reads in history/biography I've come across:

Jacques Barzun, _From Dawn to Decadence_ -- a massive, idiosyncratic and fascinating personal study of Western European culture and its offshoots from the Reformation to now. Amusingly even mentions Garbage near the very end. Very French, well worth it.

W. Bruce Lincoln, _In War's Dark Shadow_ -- enjoyable popular history of Russia in the final years of czardom before World War I. A good counterpart to the equally readable if limited Robert Massie volume _Nicholas and Alexandra_, in that Lincoln focuses on the country and culture rather than the monarchs. If you've ever read Moorcock's first Colonel Pyat volume _Byzantium Endures_ (or plan on it), this is extremely good reading to accompany it. But having mentioned Massie, credit where credit is due:

Robert Massie, _Peter the Great_ and _Dreadnought_ -- the first is actually my girlfriend's favorite book, and I can see why, it's a very good narrative take on the Russian emperor, perhaps a little too worshipful but generally tries not to excuse his brutalities (and certainly makes clear the social context in which he learned them). _Dreadnought_ studies the naval war race in Europe before World War I.

Edmund White, _Jean Genet_ -- White's recent bio of Genet, exhaustive and a bit exhausting (I'm still not done reading it, who knows when I'll get back to it!). Helps to situate Genet vis-a-vis his depicted narrative self in texts like _Our Lady of the Flowers_.

Theodore Draper, _A Struggle for Power_ -- another one I need to finally finish, but what I read of it a cogent analysis of where power was located in the 13 colonies before the American Revolution and how that in turn helped feed the eventual Revolution itself. A reasonable power-politics take on an overly hallowed event.

B. Netanyahu, _The Origins of the Inquisition_ -- distinctly non-light reading, this hefty tome; an extremely in-depth study of the Inquisition as it originated in Spain, with particular focus on the insidious switch in focus from religion (practicing Jew or not?) to bloodlines (descended from a Jew or not?), the implications of which don't need to be spelled out, I trust. Horrifying but necessary knowledge.

Fawn Brodie, _No Man Knows My History_ -- doubtless Anthony knows this one! The holy grail of sorts for anti- and ex-Mormons, Brodie's is the definitive biography of Joseph Smith, continually fought against since by Morg-approved historians (notably the utterly flipped out Hugh Nibley) but as yet still unchallenged from a strictly unbiased point of view. Doesn't so much seek to destroy Smith as situate and humanize him. Mormon history itself is one of my particular fascinations, and there's a lot of stuff out there. I'd also suggest two more recent 'true crime' books that actually do well at investigating modern Mormonism -- _A Gathering of Saints_ by Robert Lindsay, an excellent investigation of the Mark Hoffman letter frauds perpetrated on the LDS and the accompanying murders (many ex-Mormons point to this as a key moment that shook their faith, since the obvious implications was that the 'prophets of god' could not in fact recognize falsehood) and...* searches*...bother, can't find it and can't recall the exact title, but it's about a weird cult offshoot of the Reorganized LDS and is a fine study of that often-ignored segment of the Mormon population.

Edward Behr, _Kiss the Hand You Cannot Bite_ -- ostensibly a study of Nicole Ceascescu and his regime in Romania, but actually a quite fine study of Romania itself from the late nineteenth century to Romania's fall. Could use some updating.

Hm. More as they hit me.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Last book read: Mr Norris Changes Trains - Christopher Isherwood.
Currently almost finished: Molesworth - [have forgotten].
But what next? I have a vast library of as yet unread books, so I've picked out a few with a view to getting opinions:
Memories, Dreams, Reflections - Karl Jung
The Call Of Cthulu And Other Weird Stories - H.P. Lovecraft
The Atrocity Exhibition - J.G. Ballard
The Second Sex - Simone de Beauvoir
Which one? Help!

DG, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Memories, Dreams, Reflections - Karl Jung
Amazing book. The Call Of Cthulu And Other Weird Stories - H.P. Lovecraft
I think it is overwriiten and remembered for the movements it spawned . But thats me
The Atrocity Exhibition - J.G. Ballard
I love Ballard and read this a couple of weeks ago. Good good good
The Second Sex - Simone de Beauvoir
- Tough Slogging, but one of the better and well written femminst texts. None of that mewling and ouking that invades american texts of that genre.

anthony, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ballard - Oh yes, read it now. It roXor. Beauvoir - Hard going and somewhat dated because of obsession w/marxism, but useful background to whole feminism thing.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

DG: it could be How To Be Topp, Back In The Jug Agane, Whizz For Atoms or Down With Skool! Any of these ring a bell?

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh no, I meant I'd forgotten the author - the only Molesworth in print these days is a collected edition with all of them, cheers cheers.

DG, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh, I don't totally agree with Rushdie/Zadie comparisons, Geoff, you are blinded by blurb. She reminded me more of Buddha of Suburbia by Kureishi, one of my all-time faves. Give it another 25 pages and report back! The popcult/youthcult obs. are priceless.

suzy, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

DG: Written by Geoffrey Willans, cartoons by Ronald Searle.

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

That's it! Cheers Robin.

DG, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Prefix "Fothering" evokes for me: the yearning-for-escape-and-quiet side of Wilsonian progressivism, *and* the most weak, bumbling, ineffectual side of institutional 50s Tory Britain. Strange that two such opposites should be evoked by one rather twee-sounding start-of- a-name, but there you go.

"and when i sa he have a face like a tomato he repli i forgive you molesworth for those uncouth words ..."

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hurrah! Marcello, remember if you need help with design, LEMME (not Lemmy - heh!) know. My friend bought a Houllebecq book but I nevah read it. I guess I should now! I bought a Nabokov book for my boyfriend. My friends had been telling me how GREAT his other writing was, so I figured I should get some non-Lolita material. :-)
It's funny about Stockhausen: Very much BODY music. I rrrreally liked it because, well, it make me sick.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 13 January 2003 10:59 (twenty-two years ago) link

karlheinz is officially the pioneer of arsequake! ;-)

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am currently reading CLAW OV THEE CONCILLIATOR in the Book of the New Sun series - it is FANTASTIC. There is a sword called TERMINUS EST, which I am considering giving the name of to my first-born... I wrote TERMINUS EST in the steamed up taxi window on Saturday night. HA HA I wonder if anyone noticed. Does anyone even notice? Does anybody caaare...

Also I am still reading that book about GIN, and a book on VAMPRYES in literature which I have borrowed off BtG which I should really hurry up and give back... bah.

I have just finished INGENIOUS PAIN too. It is about a bloke who can't feel pain. Then there is a race to Russia. Then he DOES feel pain and goes insane. Then he dies. RAR!

Sarah (starry), Monday, 13 January 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago) link

ha ha, today's "Media Guardia" for jobs. all time best cock up on a cover of a national paper (ok, it's one of the sections), but it reminds me of the onion headline "WA-"

Alan (Alan), Monday, 13 January 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago) link

currently being superseded by tv: oulette's varese biography, lorca playz, chesterton father brown, gravity's rainbow still!! marchand's mcluhan biography (yeah yeah), gogol short stories

kind of wanna get on and read some valery, or maybe that bataille thing ian penman mentioned in ver vire

zemko (bob), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am currently reading CLAW OV THEE CONCILLIATOR in the Book of the New Sun series - it is FANTASTIC.

I've got a load of Gene Wolfe stuff around, really need to give it a go properly. But for right now it's annual LOTR reread time -- and every time I catch a line or a turn of phrase that hadn't leapt out at me before.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm reading The Two Towers, and Dubliners by James Joyce, and a book on St. Augustine by I don't know who.

Maria (Maria), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am reading the Orestian Trilogy by Aeschylus and Crash by Ballard.

I am reading the former because I, after a long period of not reading, have accumulated too many books and have decided that the only way out of my indecisiveness is to read all my books in alphabetical order by author (I am doing fiction first).

I just began this process over the weekend, over which I sped through Things Fall Apart by Achebe, which I never really liked. I wonder if the acclaim for the book has something to do with when it was published? After the popular advent of relativism, multiculturalism, post-colonial theory, etc., some aspects of Achebe's book seem rather quaint or obvious. Also, some of Achebe's portrayals of Okonkwo read like modern-day pop-psychology, which is not Achebe's fault, of course.

As for Crash, should I be too embarassed to admit that I found out about it mostly because of Electroclash and the admiration for "Warm Leatherette"? One way or the other, the book is not part of my alphabetized reading scheme, but rather was something i picked up on Friday night when I needed something to read on the subway home from DC.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Today on Church of Me I do my take on Houllebecq's "Atomised."

Hurrah! PiL/Houellebecq -- Marcello = my new favorite writer! Off to look...

Mary (Mary), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

yeah that was good review marcello. far better than what i reda in the sunday times.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

read, that is.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

You Know You Love Me: A Gossip Girl Novel
by Cecily Von Ziegesar

Couch and Appleman on Insurance

felicity (felicity), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago) link

Aaron: you need some books by Abish, Acker and Adair, possibly. Let us know when you get to Zola.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago) link

I will ;-)

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 13 January 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

also does anyone else use a similar technique when they are in a rut?
i know i am not insane

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 13 January 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago) link

>also does anyone else use a similar technique when they are in a rut?

I try to alternate between fiction/non-fiction books, and then alternate within genres, such as Asian lit, American lit, schlock novels, traveloges, historical novels, biographies, poly. sci., etc. And I usually make myself a stack of about seven books, with entries from each genre, and I don't allow myself to read anything else until the pile has been depleated. Kind of anal, I know, but I am presently cursed (blessed?) with 10 shelves, double-stacked, of reading material. If I don't approach the books with a system I think I'd get into too much of a rut and stick with one genre for a while, neglecting other things.

>i know i am not insane
On what grounds, out of curiosity?

LCD (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 05:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

started jim thompson's 'the getaway' now.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:55 (twenty-two years ago) link

LCD my psychotherapist says so. she must be telling the truth because my insanity would probably make her a lot more money!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just finished Perdido Street Station (I swear it was 700 pages when I started, but it was 850 by the end), by China Mieville, which is brilliant and The Tetherballs of Bougainville by Mark Leymer, which is really quick and almost seems mad-libbed, but is sufficiently poised to get away with it. Just about.

Just started Ted Hughes' Tales From Ovid.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Frown Dawn To Decadence". it's 800 pages of historyhistoryhistory (focussing on culture). i hope i can finish it though i doubt i EVAH will (sorta like Russell's book on the histo. of philosophy)

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 27 January 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago) link

Watermark by Joseph Brodsky, From Hell by Alan Moore & Eddie Campbell and an art book about Constructivism.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 27 January 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago) link

The secret agent by joseph conrad.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Monday, 27 January 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

My bidding/buying page on eBay(like a book at the moment),and Life at the Limit by Professor Sid Watkins.Its all about the stresses and strains and scares and injuries in Formula One racing.Bloody brilliant!

Eugene Speed (Eugene Speed), Monday, 27 January 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think I'm finally going to read the remaining parts of the Bible I don't recall having read.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 27 January 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

Also, I read The Life of Pi recently. I liked it, though the connection of the main body of the book to the frame in which it was presented was a bit weak.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 27 January 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the lord of the rings trilogy

di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:20 (twenty-two years ago) link

god, this is embarassing. I've basically been flipping between Pauline Kael's 5001 Nights and the Movies, Chuck Eddy's Stairway to Hell, Robert Christgau's Grown Up All Wrong, Michael Azzerad's Our Band Could Be Your Life and the fuckin' Spin Alternative Record Guide. All books (save Kael's, which after reading her ten books of movie reviews, I'm now reading 5001 all the way through...I'm up to the R's) I've read plenty but I just keep reading them again and again like goddamn comfort food. Our Band Could Be Your Life is the funniest, cuz I'll flip to random chapters depending on my mood (Steve Albini or Minutemen? Nah, I'm in a messed-up Dino Jr. kinda vibe! onward with the Barlow and Cosloy quotes!)

I should really start reading some fiction, but aggh! I never know where to start. Last fiction book I read all the way through was Lolita this summer. Oh, and White Noise by Don DeLillo. Gah, I need help.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, I do the same thing with books like Stairway to Hell: that's what they're written for, probably.

I like the idea of reading one of those movie review guides all the way through, from A to Z. Not sure I could actually do it, though.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 08:42 (twenty-two years ago) link

Finished the Brodsky from a few posts back, am now reading Iain Sinclair's Radon Daughters - the first I've read by him. Only just started, but his prose is extraordinary.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am now reading, The Call of the Wild by Jack London.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

Iain Sinclair continues to infect the boards! I'm reading Guy Debord and the Situationist International, Texts and Documents, MIT Press (of course), it was free! Very SI of me. There is an essay by Greil Marcus in the beginning, yay. Martin, what is Constructivism, preytell.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago) link

http://www.artsined.com/teachingarts/Pedag/Constructivist.html

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mary: I'm not sure the writer of this book agrees (only just started this too), but I am hoping it will be mostly about that tendency in modern art to build things, rather than paint and sculpt, focussing especially on very geometric work starting from Russians like Tatlin and Malevich. Glancing at the book, Naum Gabo seems to play a big part, which is a pretty good example. Actually, it looks as if the book (by George Rickey, from the '60s, I think the first book on the subject) trawls pretty broadly, taking in a good deal of stuff that seems to be hard-edged abstraction rather than strictly constructivism. Still, I love that stuff too.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

i.e. not what jel's link is about - it's about art.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
"the secret of life" by rudy rucker - really fuckin great!
& last few : "always outnumbered, always outgunned", walter mosely (also really fuckin great!!), "south of the border etc" by haruki murakami (it was sort of ok i guess), "kim" by rudyard kipling (REALLY FUCKIN GREAT)

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm on this colossal Taschen Sculpture book now, 1100 or so big pages of it. I'm just getting on to Romanesque - I can't deny feeling tempted to skip a centimetre or so.

Also, I just got hold of Umberto Eco's Baudolino, so I expect to revive the Book Club in a few days...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 23:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Arr, I just started reading A Thousand Plateaus only a year and a half after I wanted to, and I'll probably only be able to get into it after this semester ends and even that is being more than a little optimistic.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 08:07 (twenty years ago) link

OOH I posted about some books I am reading - go and look! http://www.atommickbrane.com - ha ha never let it be said I am too lazy to copy and paste or owt, eh eh?

PELHAM Or, ADVENTURES OF A GENTLEMAN is GREBT. Do any of you speak Latin?

Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 08:11 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
italo svevo, zeno's conscience; carson mccullers, the ballad of the sad café.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2004 13:15 (twenty years ago) link

"The Art of War" and "The Internet for Dummies"

boom! i fucked your hard-drive (don), Saturday, 26 June 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

John Harris "the last party" at the moment.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 26 June 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

the dusty in memphis installment of the "33 1/3" series.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 26 June 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

I just finished Osamu Tezuka's fourth Phoenix volume, Karma, possibly the best so far, and I'm almost halfway through Don DeLillo's Underworld.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 26 June 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

Einstein's Cosmos by Michio Kaku. Next up, Palomar and Luba in America by Gilbert Hernandez.

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 26 June 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

George Ifrah, The Universal History of Computing

Sophie Kinsella, Can You Keep A Secret?

David Barnett, Love and Poison

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Saturday, 26 June 2004 19:45 (twenty years ago) link

I'm reading Gibson's Neuromancer and Brian Greene's The Elegant Universe at the moment, with Gravity's Rainbow up next.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Saturday, 26 June 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago) link

Just tried to set fire to Zadie Smith's The Autograph Man, now reading Runanway Jury. There are others I'm messing about with, but that's the one I'm expending the most effort on. Planning a fairly large raid on Amazon soon.

I am not a mandible (Barima), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

I'm about 250 into Easy Riders Raging Bulls.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

Since Thursday I've read:

Brideshead Revisited (Waugh)
Curious Incident of the Dog in Night Time (Hadden)
Uncle Tungsten (Sacks)
Smithsonian latest issue
New Yorker latest issue
New York Times daily
Boston Globe dot com daily
Washington Post dot com daily.

j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

Haunted Weather by David Toop, lately.
Mostly when on my way back home from the countryside. Which makes for an every-other-weekend-reading, sorta.
Quite like the book so far, though I'm not even halfway through it.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link


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