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...a bit odd about posting to other threads when something so awful has happened? I've posted a couple of times and then thought, shit, that must appear uncaring and insensitive to those grieving for Liz. When a couple of people close to me died, I remember feeling that I wanted to shake everyone getting on with their lives and shout at them "Don't you know something terrible has happened? How can you go on as though everything's OK?"

I know life goes on.

― Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Saturday, 16 July 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

i didn't think it would be appropriate to say this on Liz's thread.

― Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Saturday, 16 July 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

I've felt a bit strange about that, yes.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 16 July 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

I know how you feel. Like I said before, I didn't know Liz aside from the posts, but I feel so awful for the people who did know her and feel strange/guilty when I post silly comments.

― nathalie's body's designed for two (stevie nixed), Saturday, 16 July 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

Yep, I have, too...

― luna (luna.c), Saturday, 16 July 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

yeah feels weird, especially when it's a big brother thread or something.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 16 July 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

me too

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Saturday, 16 July 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I felt very selfish for posting in a drunken haze that no one remembered my birthday .. (I was having a low self-esteeem day.) I hadn't noticed that Liz's thread title had been changed....

― geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I can't imagine anyone really thinks normal chat should stop. Having said that, I've felt any number of shades of guilt for all sorts of complicated reasons since the day of the bombing, and still do.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but it's also one way I have to handle things, posting here makes me feel understanding and understood (well, often) and that's a precious feeling, especially now.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I also think it's one of those things that everyone has their own way of responding to. On Sept. 11, I was still living in Tennessee, and there was this huge weird sense of people not knowing what to do. Our own daily lives hadn't been interrupted, apart from a flurry of phone calls and emails to friends in New York. But there was all this worry about how we should be acting. Was it OK to, you know, go to the grocery store? Read the sports section? Meet friends at a bar? And I just felt like, whatever anyone wanted to do was OK**. It didn't mean they weren't thinking about it or weren't affected by it.

**The exception was the asshole street preacher who, a half-hour after the second tower fell, was ranting about how those people died because they were sinners. Him, I almost punched.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Yes, me too. I even feel strangely uncomfortable when I notice the RIP thread is half a page down from the top. I've considered asking the admins if they didn't have some way to keep that thread at the top of the page for a while or to have the new answers page be white text on a black background for a month or so, but maybe that would be too much or too artificial.

But it's also comforting to see that the board is still there, being just a board where people can talk about anything.

― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

Tracer OTM. Grief is important, but I have to imagine, from the joie de vivre Liz demonstrated here, that she wouldn't want us to mire down in it.

Honestly, I got loopier than ever yesterday on ILE partly as a sign to Liz, if she's out there watching, that we will carry on living — flirting, drinking, and eating pie. I'm following the Golden Rule: If I were to die today, I would like for there to be a wake with more laffs than tears.

(I wrote this a couple of hours ago and held it and pondered a while before posting it.)

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

i make threads about burritos as a way of dealing

― kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know Liz, so it's pretty remote for me.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

The vast majority of the time I spent with Liz was spent drinking, dancing, talking bollocks and generally arsing around. In a weird way, I think its better to carry on doing so. The last conversation I had with Liz was so ridiculously inanely silly it still makes me smile even now, thinking about it, which is why I bought it up on the other thread. The last thing I want is for that spirit to disappear.

Also, a lot of us have been using ILX as a comfort thing over the past week or so, either through the board itself or through just meeting in the pub. Even though we've been sitting and drinking and talking about generally unrelated nonsense, I think everyone appreciates just having people around. More frivolous crap, please.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 16 July 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

i didn't know liz either; however, when i'm looking for a thread to read and i pass over Liz Dap1yn RIP it's a bit bizarre in context

― pete d, Sunday, 17 July 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

When we heard the news in the pub on Friday the upstairs room was pretty much split between us and some guy's birthday party. We all sat around looking into space, or into our beer, the people there in couples held one another, and that lasted for ten or fifteen minutes. And meanwhile the birthday party went on, gales of laughter, loud boozy voices: at first I thought, dammit, why couldn't we have had the room to ourselves? And then I thought about the time Pete and I bellowed Reef songs in the GHS, the first FAP I remember Liz bringing cake to actually, and I remembered that the pub isn't a place for grief, even if it's sometimes a place for grief to happen to you. Carsmile and I caught each others eye, both looking miserable, just as one of the people across the room yelled out, "WHO'S GOT THE RACK OF LAMB?". And we both started laughing.

In other words, just be ILX, ILX.

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 17 July 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

The vast majority of the time I spent with Liz was spent drinking, dancing, talking bollocks and generally arsing around. In a weird way, I think its better to carry on doing so.

This is so OTM it hurts.

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 18 July 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

Carsmile and I caught each others eye, both looking miserable, just as one of the people across the room yelled out, "WHO'S GOT THE RACK OF LAMB?". And we both started laughing.
:-)
With regards to this thread, I did feel exactly this way, but unfortunately life has to go on, as sad as it is.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 18 July 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

I've been so shocked and upset by the events of July 7th, that I've been clinging to ILX as though it were some kind of rock.

ILX is a very special kind of community, and one that I feel privileged to be a part of. I am actually quite comforted that, amongst this terrible sadness, there are still threads about soup tureens or I Hate Flip Flops, because that's part of what life here is all about. Of course not everyone feels like larking around at the moment, but I am grateful that there is some semblence of normality which I can wrap around myself like a warm duvet.

― C J (C J), Monday, 18 July 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

I've been feeling guilty about this but I mostly come here for the laughs and all that stuff about laughter being the best medicine is kind of true

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 18 July 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

It's times like this that make ILX feel like a microcosm.

I am actually quite comforted that, amongst this terrible sadness, there are still threads about soup tureens or I Hate Flip Flops, because that's part of what life here is all about.

Moreover - I hope noone thinks I'm being presumptious here - it's nice to think that Liz would be glad that ILXors still found time to be silly in the midst of shock and sadness.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

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