Hinge Verb Query

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
I need to know, soon, the answer, or an answer, or even several, to this question.

From the verb 'to hinge', should one write 'hingeing' or 'hinging'? The former looks right to me; my computer says the latter.

I am using it in a metaphorical sense.

It is nothing to do with Martina Hingis.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

Use the first. Think 'whingeing'.

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

No, it is hinging. I recommend www.onelook.com for all your online dictionary needs.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

What about singe?

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

My apologies.

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

AskOxford.com has hingeing *or* hinging.

We're all winners!

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

All the dictionaries at onelook (webster's, cambridge, dictionary.com and many more) have only hinging. Oxford seems an odd one out. I actually think few would reasonably object to hingeing, since it isn't an unusual formation and is perfectly clear.

You have to put the e in in singeing, obviously, or it means something different.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

It would be hard to singe in the rain.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

whinging has no e either

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

or maybe it can have bothe. wow the rules sure are slack on these words.

bingeing and binging are both valid for "binge" in the continuous tense.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Really? I am surprised, Ken!

the bellefox, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

Binging looks really wrong. Like minging now does in the minge-ing sense.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

the oxford dictionary for writers and editors - my bible on such matters - has "hinging" ... which i think is bollocks.

indeed, on a scottish newspaper such as this, it would be confusing: round these parts "hinging" (hard "g" sound) means "hanging".

one for my new (and vastly overdue) style book, i feel.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

You work for a newspaper that insists on 'swop' over 'swap'.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Binging = performing gentle, seemingly unambitious but perhaps masterly cover versions of 'White Christmas' and 'Gone Fish[e]in'', between rounds of golf.

the bingfox, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

You work for a newspaper that insists on 'swop' over 'swap'.

not on my watch. i absolutely refuse to let the word "swop" anywhere near my magazine.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

OK - I've just decided to go ahead with 'hingeing'.

Cor - that decision only took me 4 hours!

the bellefox, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

My books of choice, Merriam-Websters and Chambers insist it is only "hinging".

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

What's the next word, The Pinefox? I reckon by next Monday we could have a whole sentence sorted out.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Webster's 11th only has "hinging," too. British English may differ, of course.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Now I'm back at home I can tell you what the Cambridge Guide To English Usage says on the general point:

[...] In the course of history, final e has come and gone from many words; and in C21 English it still varies in the spelling of words. Its presence or absence is dictated by a number of rules and conventions:

1 The major rule affecting -e is dropping it before a suffix beginning with a vowel or y. This applies to an enormous number of words in English.

[...]

2 Exceptions and variations to the major rule are as follows:

[...]

e) Words ending in -inge such as singe may keep the e before adding -ing, and thus singeing is distinct from singing, springeing from springing, swingeing from swinging, tingeing from tinging. Some writers keep the -e in other rather uncommon verbs of this kind, e.g. bingeing, hingeing, twingeing, whingeing, even though there are no parallel words without the -e to confuse them with. But no-one keeps the -e in the more familiar verbs with -inge (e.g. cringe, fringe, impinge, infringe), and those with other vowels (e.g. change, lunge, plunge, sponge), which always become cringing, changing etc., in accordance with the major rule.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

OED says:

"HINGE n.

1. trans. To bend (anything) as a hinge.

1607 SHAKES. Timon IV. iii. 211 Be thou a Flatterer now..hindge thy knee. 1864 SALA in Daily Tel. 23 Nov., The wealthiest..city in America bows the neck, and hinges the knee, and crooks to the control of this man.

2. To attach or hang with or as with a hinge.

1758-65 GOLDSM. Ess., Eng. Clergy Wks. (Globe) 293/2 The vulgar..whose behaviour..is totally hinged upon their hopes and fears. 1804 W. TAYLOR in Ann. Rev. II. 365 The laws, which hinge gaming transactions on a mere principle of honor. 1879 M. PATTISON Milton vi. 70 Hooker's elaborate sentence..is composed of parts so hinged.

3. intr. To hang and turn on, as a door on its post.

1719 SPOTSWOOD in W. S. Perry Hist. Coll. Amer. Col. Ch. I. 206 The law you hinge on. 1795 BURKE Corr. (1844) IV. 317 Their adversaries endeavoured to give this colour to the contest, and to make it hinge on this principle. 1835 THIRLWALL Greece I. iii. 75 The point on which the decision must finally hinge. 1886 Bookseller Jan. 4/1 The destinies of the Empire are found to hinge on some Asiatic question.

Hence hinging vbl. n. (also attrib.).

1825 J. NICHOLSON Operat. Mechanic 591 Some information on the subject of hinging in general. 1846 RUSKIN Mod. Paint. I. II. I. vii. ยง27 Peculiar and hinging points on which the rest are based.

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

I thought this was another kate DB thread!

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

rewrite the sentence to use 'hinge' or 'hinges' so that no one has the opportunity to read whatever -ing you choose and think it looks funny (because someone will, no matter which one you pick).

Josh (Josh), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.