Friday 22 July, FAP London

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Hello there everyone

On Friday evening i've booked the upstairs of the Artillery Arms on Bunhill Row for us to meet-up, not just for those of us returning from Liz's funeral, but anyone else who couldn't make it to join us. it's only a ten minute walk from Liverpool Street, less than that from Old Street/Barbican/Moorgate. Any questions email me.

xoxo
Steve

Pub: http://www.fancyapint.com/main_site/thepubs/pub47.htm
Map: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=532583&Y=182225&A=Y&Z=1

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

half eleven, stupid time to start london fap thread...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

there is never a stupid time to start a FAP thread

― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

maybe if it's after the event.. and even then

i hope, to make it there
xo

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Anyone wishing to walk with Suzy and I from Brentwood to the funeral place, email me. Address below.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 July 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

I emailed Suzy about it - also forwarded your email to Anna and PinX0r and a couple others who have asked how we are getting there.

― Rum, Sodomy and the LAN (kate), Thursday, 21 July 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

hello london. looking forward to meeting you, despite circumstances. i give good hug.

― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

i also think it would be quite nice to have a few drinks while we're up there for the benefit of pinxor and others who aren't coming back down to london. i'm not sure if there are any plans for that - rob didn't mention it in his invite.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

Whether rob has or hasn't the OS map shows a pub not far from the place.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I was assuming that, if circustances came to it, we'd decamp to a local pub. Though I admire Carsmile's thinking ahead. I wonder if there'll be parking near the Artillery Arms?

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

Ah yes, I see now in the brochure there are two pubs close at hand.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

scouring an OS map for pub location... classic

― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

Mark, not before 6:30pm.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

Or at least you will have to pay if before 6:30pm.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

There seem to be a number of paying car parks round there, assuming a big blue P in a blue square means Parking on Streetmap. And www.NCP.co.uk seems to suggest that they have a place in nearby Bastwick Street.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

i won't be coming as i have an epic stack of work to do and also think this is really for people who actually knew liz, which i didn't other than her posts here. just wanted to say, though, that i've been thinking about you all this past week, when i was away in houston. my best wishes to everyone.

― stelf)xxxx, Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

there are some parking lots just outside the congestion charge zone as well if you arrive before 6:30pm.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

you'll have to pay them, obv. but at least saving £8

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

rob says there will be a drink and some food at the funeral place and we can stay for a couple of hours afterwards, so we don't have to rush back.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

I think this will be for anyone who feels they want to come along, whether they knew Liz IRL or knew her on the internet.

No-one should feel pressured to come if they don't feel it's right, but equally no-one should feel they should stay away if they want to turn up, just because they knew Liz online.

There are tons of people who are important to me who I "only" know online.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 21 July 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Also meeting people is ~~easy~~ fun, and an obvious next step to "I wish I'd known Liz in real life" = "come see more people in real life".

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Indeed. Tomorrow is not a day to be alone.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 July 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the thoughts guys, it's very much appreciated. I was unsure whether to attend & have been agonising over it all week. I really wanted to come, but wasn't sure if it was appropriate, but I have definitely decided that I will attend. I am planning to get the train so that I will be able to come back into London, so please don't make any specific plans for my benefit.
Kate, Suzy etc I'm not sure we'll be able to make it at the time you have specified, as we will be getting a bus into Cambridge, a bus to the train station, then the train to kings cross, before we've even thought about Liverpool St & I don't want to hold anyone up, but Kate, I'll let you know in the morning if that's ok?
Also, I know Rob has mentioned that it is informal, so I was wondering what people are wearing. I mainly ask as James is unsure whether or not he should wear a suit.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to wear a shirt, but not a suit, possibly a nehru collared jacket if it is cold.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

my instinct is to wear the suit, but i'm unsure whether it would stand out as being conspicuous in the informal setting.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Er, I was talking about the FAP there. I don't think anyone should crash the funeral. But surely you'd have been invited, Pink?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

I interpret 'informal' as 'suit not required but if you do choose to wear one no offence would be taken'. A few of us are thinking 'suit minus tie' route.

Will be nice to see you Pinkp.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

my instict is also towards suit, but i don't think others should worry either way. you won't be on your own if you do M.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

i don't think there'll be a problem if some people wear suits

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

massed males in clothes nerves shocker

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

my suit has been mothed, something I found out when the cars turned up for my grandmother's funeral.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

The proposed Suit FAP may yet happen.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

It's a green burial: WOAD!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Having looked at the state of my one good suit I am going to be slightly less formal than planned. Still smart though (I hope and pray).

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

I will be coming from work, so I will alas be in office clothes. Though I must say, those are somewhat more formal than my regular clothes anyway.

― Rum, Sodomy and the LAN (kate), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh I am glad to see clothes nerves elsewhere as well. This thread eases them somewhat.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Marcello - you have mail.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

where is the funeral?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

If that's a real email address, I'll send you the details, Dr C.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

PP - you have a reply.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

it's not. is yours real? I could e-mail you

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

Mine is; please do.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

I was having clothes nerves too. I'm going with full skirt and smart top and ballet flats, since they are the only formal flat shoes I own.

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Is there something that those of us not attending Liz's funeral could do as a mark of respect at a certain time? I know the minutes silence doesn't appeal to everyone but would shutting down the board for an hour or something be an appropriate dignified tribute?

I dunno, I just feel like I'd like to mark the day in some way.

― Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

Freaky Trigger's already down. Turning off ILX would unduly affect people who've never really heard of her, or if they did it was just on these threads. I can't imagine she'd want that.

You could pick someone at work that's nice but quiet and chat to them for a bit? If you have one, I suppose.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Am I the only one here feeling somewhat uneasy about Andrew's general demeanour on this thread?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

Anna, there is a bit of a hike between station and site...I will be doing this hike in trainers and switching to the right shoes when I get there.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

I am uneasy about everything.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't have a general demeanour, I think. The Woad joke was a very bad idea, and I apologise. My advice to Penelope was quite serious.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

'bit of a hike' = several miles, by the look of it. I have two spaces in a car going from Tottenham to the funeral tomorrow, if anyone needs a lift.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

Skipping 105 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Haha I was the only person (or at least the first) to be enough of a sad crossword geek to immediately blurt out keenly 'how many letters?' to Lucy's joke.

Sorry about the congestion charge M and thanks for the heroic driving (and even more heroic swearing) all day. Yes, Matt was drunk in the line of duty. He had to work the next day as well poor dear.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

That's perfectly OK, Madchen. There was quite a lot of cheekiness coming my way, now you come to mention it.

It's so easy to forget to pay the congestion charge, Markelby.

But surely you didn't get there until it had finished for the day?

I tried to work out how much money that pub made out of us.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Haha I was the only person (or at least the first) to be enough of a sad crossword geek to immediately blurt out keenly 'how many letters?' to Lucy's joke.

I spent about five minutes going 'duuuhhhhhh...' before she completed the joke for me, sob.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Who was on it on our table who provided the set-up for Lucy's punchline? Was it you, Vicky?

PJM and I were the first to the pub (walking past Smithfield and the Barbican - the first time in perhaps six years I'd been in that neighborhood), having not gone to Brentwood (having elected not to go myself, I made the terrible error of not passing on the details, assuming - on no basis whatsoever - that he'd feel the same way); each fresh wave of faces through the door was a sad delight ("How long has it been...?").

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

chris ryan?

(suzy can you email me at work?)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

ps i enjoyed the fap --- by the close i wz so full of ~~stella~~ general bonhomie that everything just went by me

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

x-post wasn't me, it was someone to my left, maybe Chris?

― Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

(I can't remember the joke. All I can remember is not understanding it.)

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

(Michael has just told me the joke. It wasn't all that complicated. Perhaps it was something else I didn't understand.)

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

Matt and I are thinking of stealing the phrase 'overworked postmen' to be the name of our new crossword club that we keep meaning to start. Mainly we will be sitting in pubs.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

From across the room I watched Madchen tell that joke to Pete--a moment of joy.

― sgs (sgs), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

sorry about the congestion charge mark! but yeah appeal for it.. hey, who knows maybe the camera didn't get you either. the pub being just inside the zone (where did you park it?)

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

I parked on Chiswell Street, and entered the zone about 15 mins before it stopped charging. Forgetting to pay it was just unforgiveable.

I idn't realise you could appeal. I might try it even though, really, I done the blag.

(which reminds me of the best joke I ever told. I was watching AFCW vs Metropolitan Police, and the Met brought on a blonde substitute. I immediately shouted "It's a fair cop!" to general hilarity. Go me!)

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

That's the beauty of small crowds.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

Mark what is your work email?

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

oh haha sorry!! send it to home email and i will bump it on by interweb magic

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

i missed you, miller
and emma's hair WAS lovely. hello emma. i didn't meet you either properly. sorry.
awww the love. i want another round of hugs already.
i'm going to be trying london more in august. i shall be attending the sugar thing. you should go too!

― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know the actual date for August Poptimism?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

I missed Dahlin and Pinky Panther.

I want to start a club called Drossimism.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Is that named after Ed and Jazzer's band in the archers?

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Did they beat me to it?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

I nearly missed Pinky Panther. At the funeral I asked Martin if she'd turned up and it turned out she was standing bang next to me!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

1. i was the stooge for the overworked postman joke at the far corner table

2. august poptimism is Friday 19th

3. i'm not even going to think about how much the artillery made out of us, but also i feel sad that i didn't say thank you on the way out

4. thank you everyone for coming :)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Sorry I couldn't make it along to this, but if it helps I did spend Friday night more drunk than I've ever been for a long time.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

you're a star, you are

― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

Not on my own, of course.

self-xpost

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Steve, I said thank-you on the way out, you'll be amazed to hear. I also made "hope we weren't too much trouble" kind of noises and the bar people were very nice and kind and said we weren't.

I was convinced I saw TISSP! but I obviously saw some sort of TISSPalike, bah.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

I said thank you to the bar man, as I think I was the last to leave the top room.

― Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

That bad, eh, Tim?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

Yes, outstanding.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

tim's a star

― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

What a bloody INDIE night. THANKS FOR NOTHING, The Lex!

Yes, I also had a good time until the thing with the thing and even then I can't say that was a particular causer of rouen.

― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 25 July 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Tim perhaps you saw:
http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/exhibitions/blakeinteractive/imagin/img/cast02_pic.jpg

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 25 July 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

it is his manor

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 25 July 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

WB certainly wouldn't have seen that chap on the Rye.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 25 July 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

I think his tipple was gin.

― Mooro (Mooro), Monday, 25 July 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

Me = http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/exhibitions/blakeinteractive/imagin/img/cast02_pic.jpg

Hahaha

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Why has he got a child's sterring wheel toy? And does he really think it works?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

He is the ghost of a flea & that is a cup from which to drink YOUR BLOOD!

― Mooro (Mooro), Monday, 25 July 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

It was nice to see everyone, as ever.

― Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 25 July 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

I was the saddo that asked the question to set Madchen up for her joke in the pub on Saturday, having managed to avoid it all day on Friday (I think after being stuck in a car with me for eight hours, she was maybe sick of the sight of me by the time we got to the pub).

I think we did Liz proud on Friday night. I have been to a couple of wakes which degenerate rapidly into ruin and silliness on the grounds that "it's what (s)he would have wanted". That seemed especially true on Friday. Maudlin-ness would have hurt too much, I'd been through a lot of that in the afternoon (a lovely and fitting occasion, though) and after it, a release was needed. And gallons of wine and a bunch of friendly and welcoming mentalists provided just that.

But can someone please get married or something so we can do it for a much happier reason next time?

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 25 July 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Hm. I could marry all of you, I suppose, but that would be involved.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 July 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Move to Utah, Ned. Your hair seems kind of polygamist anyway.

― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 25 July 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Renew your vows?

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 25 July 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Leon, I fear the Mormons would say something about my sinful ways and that would be the end of me (I believe the hair would escape on its own to found a new underwater life form). However, if I could convert the ridiculously beautiful landscape around Logan, Utah into NedWorld (free admission, just bring good food to share), then this could be a fine approach.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 July 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

what do you do that's sinful ned? you don't FORNICATE do you?

― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 25 July 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I just remembered I made a really really foolish mistake of mentioning horrible work-related issues in front of the trade union triumvirate of Dave B, Pete and Carsmile. The whole of London must have been lit up with the collective gleam in their eyes "whoo, we can talk about trade unions! and employment rights!" What a golden opportunity I presented them with. I hope it was appreciated.

About half way up the M6 on Sunday it occurred to me that I had missed the perfect opportunity to harangue Dave B in person about the lack of streaking through the streets of Liverpool I have been harrassing him about online for about two months.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 25 July 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

You'll never take me alive coppers etc.

Employment righst? Hein? Oh vey. I'd not even started on the whisky by that point.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 25 July 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

I did forget to ask you about that as well, Dave. Now consider it asked.

what do you do that's sinful ned? you don't FORNICATE do you?

Let me alchemize a lawyer and check with him/her/it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

I am sure there is a secret list of subjects to avoid while I'm around. I notice even my Mum knows never to talk about films turned into musicals/plays.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

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