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they've just sealed off a chunk of tottenham court road, from the boots to euston road, 50 policemen outside warren street station.

no one can get out of our building just now

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

have they said anything? i.e. what they are looking for or did they get a warning?

― battlingspacemonkey (battlingspacemonkey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

These aren't news any longer, are they? I mean, I was hit with two last week, and it wasn't news then.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

Probably just another abandoned bag.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I've had two in the past week. How scary is it that it's got to the point where this just feels normal, and we generally ignore it?

― Rum, Sodomy and the LAN (kate), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

there were shitloads of sirens for this one - more then i've heard for a fortnight...

― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

i have started looking at peep's on my train in the morning now and looking at their bags and their faces and their mannerisms, i've also started making random conversations with people as well...

― battlingspacemonkey (battlingspacemonkey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

three incidents reported on tubes. smoke from trains. warren st, oval, shep bush. chaos on tott ct rd.

― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

It doesn't feel normal to me.

― Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

INCIDENTS REPORTED NEAR TUBE STATIONS

A series of incidents have been reported near Warren Street, Oval and Shepherd's Bush stations on the London Underground. Smoke was seen coming from a train.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189833,00.html

― battlingspacemonkey (battlingspacemonkey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

still sealed.. not much in terms of reports yet apparently "smoke was seen coming from a train"

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189833,00.html

there's this bus also that's empty in the middle of a junction. dunno if that's related or just stuck around a sea of sticky tapes.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

oh xpost

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

Shit.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

Probably the latter.

From that news story:

one witness who was travelling on one of the trains said a man told him that a passenger carrying a rucksack made an exclamation and then the rucksack exploded.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

they don't usual go this big for dropped bags.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

also, i'm very hungry and i can't get downstairs to the sainsburys, which makes me VERY ANGRY. and may injure people as a result.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

jesus fucking christ. not again!

― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

whoever is doing this, if this is real, stop it.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Guardian has picked up Sky's story:

By Neil McIntosh / UK news 01:15pm

1315 We're getting new reports of a "series of incidents" on the tube network. Warren Street, Oval and Shepherd's Bush tubes have all been evacuated, and emergency services are attending. Services on the Victoria line and Northern line have been suspended.

Sky News is reporting a minor explosion on one tube at 1254. A passenger's backpack blew apart, but did not cause further damage. There was panic on the train, but passengers were able to disembark.

Not again...

― Rum, Sodomy and the LAN (kate), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

The "smoke" might well be illusory if all the trains involved were tube trains, which at least two of them were. The smallest incidents on the tube produce reports of smoke; it's usually just dust being disturbed.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

are there no munchies in your office?

no biscuits? crisps?

x-post to Ken c

― battlingspacemonkey (battlingspacemonkey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm hoping it's just people being on edge.

― Rum, Sodomy and the LAN (kate), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

north, south, east and west. the image of a "burning crucifix" that the bombers talked about making last time. still let's hope that this isn't what it appears to be.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

made an exclamation

"allah akhbar" or "oh shit, my aerosol/iPod/science experiment etc has blown up"? that's the key.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

INCIDENTS REPORTED NEAR TUBE STATIONS

A series of incidents have been reported near Warren Street, Oval and Shepherd's Bush stations on the London Underground.

The station have been evacuated. Smoke was seen coming from a train.

A man on the train told Sky News he spoke to an Italian man who witnessed an explosion.

"He told me he had seen a man carrying a rucksack which suddenly exploded. It was a minor explosion but enough to blow open his rucksack. Everyone rushed from the carriage. People evacuated very quickly. There was no panic.

"I didn't see anyone injured but there was shock and fright.

"There was a smell of smoke."

Police have cordoned off the streets around Warren Street station. They said a suspect package had been reported on a Victoria Line train.

― battlingspacemonkey (battlingspacemonkey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

I've just booked train tickets to come to London in a few weeks. And now this happens! Bloody typical, you know

(grumble, grumble, whinge inanely to try to cover up serious concern)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

north, south, east and west. the image of a "burning crucifix" that the bombers talked about making last time. still let's hope that this isn't what it appears to be.

So which of these three is east?

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

A passenger's backpack blew apart, but did not cause further damage.

Very strange, a failed suicide bomber perhaps?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

Sky news saying no reports of casualties at this stage.
Lets keep fingers crossed.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

A passenger's backpack blew apart, but did not cause further damage

This is ridiculous.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

scotland yard: 'series of indcidents'. is a suspect package an 'incident'?

― N_RQ, Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

Very strange, a failed suicide bomber perhaps?

"There was a smell of smoke."

"The man who was holding the rucksack looked extremely dismayed."

― Huey (Huey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

Bomb alerts don't feel normal to me although the IRA threat was always around when I was growing up and scares happened pretty regularly. But I think just getting on with it has to be the best way of dealing with this kind of interruption. "I might get blown up but I refuse to be terrorised" etc. Not very controversial I know.

Forest Pines, get your butt over here and show some solidarity or something. If you don't come, They will have won ;)

― beanz (beanz), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

Reports: "Gunshots heard on platform at Warren Street..."

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

Cognitive Illusions?

― Huey (Huey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

haha funniness

"I didn't see anyone injured but there was shock and fright.

"There was a smell of smoke."

"The man who was holding the rucksack looked extremely dismayed.

oh xpost

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

small explosion could be the detonator.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Reuters: Nail Bomb exploded at Warren Street...

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

A Nailbomb at warren st apparently. Gunshots have been heard too.

xpost

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

gunshots? surely not...

― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

"He said that a man was carrying a rucksack and the rucksack suddenly exploded. It was a minor explosion but enough to blow open the rucksack. "The man then made an exclamation as if something had gone wrong.

well, no shit. his rucksack had just exploded.

i'm really not sure what to make of this.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

jesus.

― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

Somethings happened on a bus on Hackney Road on a bus.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

Incident on bus on Hackney Road...

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

if my rucksack spontaneously combusted i'd be pretty dismayed too.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

Maybe it was a Mission Impossible agent who had accidentally pressed "Play" on his self-destructing message before he'd had a chance to listen to it.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

@text:Emergency services personnel have responded to reports of an incident on a bus in Hackney Road, junction near Colombia Road, east London, Scotland Yard said today.
mf
211333 JUL 05

fucking hell.

(xpost)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

tho i suppose gunshots could be coppers responding? ack...

― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

That awful feeling in my gut again. Please let this just be hype.

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

ugh. Take care of yourselves everyone. Useless to say really, but ugh.

― sgs (sgs), Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

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oh that's what she did then in that case, delightfully. If the orange juice wasn't quite so expensive I'd even have bought some.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Harold Wilson chose (very wisely) not to enter the Vietnam War

A fact which seems to have been airbrushed out of history, along with the fact that Thatcher, of all people, condemned the US invasion of Grenada.

And what did the British Left have to say about Wilson's refusal of LBJ's request for British troops to be sent to Vietnam? Why they savaged him for not condemning US intervention in Vietnam out of hand, of course! And marched up and down with banners denouncing him as a murderer!

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Germany has 2,200 troops in Afghanistan at the moment, for what it's worth.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

The main reason Thatcher objected to the invasion of Grenada was that Reagan didn't ask her permission first.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

The Catholics were the Muslims of 1605.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

The lead story on BBC News right now:

"Al-Qaeda 'blames Blair for bombs': Osama Bin Laden's lieutenant warns London faces more attacks because of Tony Blair's policies."

Very cunning, the same "either with us or against us" tactic Bush used after 9/11. Now people like me can't argue any connection without being accused of parrotting Al Qaeda. They ruined the last US election by doing the same thing to Kerry's program.

Well, it might make a change from being told (cf. Henry upthread) you're parrotting George Galloway / Saddam Hussein. So there you go, it's official: now anyone making any link between Blair's bombs and suicide bombs is "on their side" and "against us".

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

poor old kerry, eh? staunchly anti-war kerry, friend of peaceniks everywhere. i'm not saying you're pro-AQ momus; if you'll recall i said that merely because you said anyone who thinks there's more to this than iraq is parroting straw.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

So have they claimed responsibility? Or is he just, erm, hijacking events for his own blether?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

The "parroting Straw" remark came because you said "What about the Egypt bombs?" as a way to divert attention from the connection between the UK bombs and Iraq, just as Jack Straw did. That's more specific than "There's more to this than Iraq", which is clearly the case, and which I admit when I talk about Israel, or the status of the US as "hegemon", etc.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

israel, like egypt, is a 'cause' that predates the iraq invasion by decades, but funnily enough people bring up israel more often because the cause there -- that of the palestinians -- is more sympathetic among western liberals than the cause in egypt -- the insufficiently islamic government of a muslim country. why not bring up egypt, given the bombing there two weeks ago? it's not diverting attention, just demonstrating that the situation is complex.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

I thought talking about the US as "hegemon" was out.

I think they give people a receipt when they take their name and address.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 5 August 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

hegemon is back. i blame green gartside.

― N_RQ, Friday, 5 August 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

I might have known that stringy-haired git was responsible.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 5 August 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Saudi Arabia officially warned Britain of an imminent terrorist attack on London just weeks ahead of the 7 July bombings after calls from one of al-Qaeda's most wanted operatives were traced to an active cell in the United Kingdom.

Senior Saudi security sources have confirmed they are investigating whether calls from Kareem al-Majati, last year named as one of al-Qaeda's chiefs in the Gulf kingdom, were made directly to the British ringleader of the 7 July bomb plotters.

Uh-oh.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Sunday, 7 August 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

if true EITHER our security services dropped the ball OR there is another cell in which case OH SHIT WORST OF ALL our security services have yet to pick the ball up.

it's absolutely typical that the government concentrates on chucking out itinerant preachers and ignores the frickin terrorist NETWORK at large.

― Enrique, naked in an unfamiliar future where corporations run the world... (Enri, Sunday, 7 August 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

i had to look up the dictionary to find out what a hegemon was. i thought it was one of them cartoons with the cuddly pets.

― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Hull City fans react to recent events:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4130850.stm

Hegemon = Jamaican Worzel Gummidge

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 8 August 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Football chants written by witty cunts shocker!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 8 August 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

The QPR fans should have sung back, "But at least we don't live in Hull"

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Monday, 8 August 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

As if Hull didn't look like a bombsite anyway, HEH

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 8 August 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

whats this stuff about Haroon Rashid Aswat supposedly having previously(?) been a double agent, whats the deal with the oregon camps he's wanted for (how did he escape then?), and a supposed role at the behest of the brits in albania/kosovo circa 99?

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

i dunno, but it sounds very '24' season one.

― N_RQ, Monday, 8 August 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

How does one go about setting up a terrorist training camp in the state of Oregon? Granted, we Americans are not known for our brightness, but it seems like the kind of thing that would be difficult to miss.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

Maybe they were going for the surreal. That's what all the news seems like nowadays.

― youn, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

Police have launched an investigation after Queens Park Rangers fans were taunted about the London bombings.
The club's supporters were subjected to chants including, "You're just a town full of bombers" by Hull City fans.

but shouldn't that be to Leeds United, or Luton Town??

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

i don't know what charges the police can really put to the chanters though. "Being a twat" is an arrestable offence now?

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

I can understand why that has you in a panic, Ken.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah who would i get to speak to if the rest of ilx get arrested?!??!?!?!?!?!

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

oh wait you mean i'm being arrestably twatty? woah handbags.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

they've just sealed off a chunk of tottenham court road, from the boots to euston road, 50 policemen outside warren street station.

no one can get out of our building just now

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

come again?

― N_RQ, Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

but shouldn't that be to Leeds United, or Luton Town??

Aylesbury Town surely? Provided Aylesbury Town actually exist of course.

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

yes, a suspected bukakki bomb.

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

It's Aylesbury United and yes they do indeed exist, they're in the Southern League. Someone I used to go to school with ended up playing for them after QPR let him go.

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

What Ken? Is that true about Tottenham Court Road?

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

there *are* a lot (even by recent standards) of sirens round here this morn.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

you gonna go hungry again, ken?

― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

wahey, cordons are off.

my lunchhour is safe (for now)

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

there are a still a few police near warren street station but i think it was a false alarm in the end.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

oh wait you mean i'm being arrestably twatty? woah handbags.
-- ken c (pykachu10...)

I think you would probably get away with a caution, Ken.

Sorry, I meant to write that the other day, it would have been better then.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Are there a lot of helicopter rides today, or what?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 11 August 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

There's been a lot of undercover/unmarked police cars zooming around Haringey with those removable sirens on the roof blaring away lately.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 11 August 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

They're loving it, the coppers

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Thursday, 11 August 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

aylesbury united are "the ducks"

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 11 August 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

There's been a lot of undercover/unmarked police cars zooming around Haringey with those removable sirens on the roof blaring away lately.
-- Colonel Poo (colonelpo...), August 11th, 2005 11:26 AM. (Colonel Poo) (later) (link)

sure it isn't just the latest item from the Gadget Shop?

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 11 August 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

well, the Sainsbury's downstairs apparently has a "power failure" and was all closed - i don't know if that's related.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

I don't know where to put this, but FBI has issued a terror warning for New York, Chicago and LA.

― whiteout (bobnope), Friday, 12 August 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

Just had a bomb scare, turned out to be headed paper. What a farce!

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

Amazing and appalling just how at odds the details of the Menezes shooting are to the initial reports.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1550565,00.html

― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

New thread required I think

― Diddyismus (Dada), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

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