Oh noes! Outsider artist hassled by da man

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/13/AR2005071302448.html

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

lolz@ washington post:

Borf considers himself a crusader for youth; he drew inspiration from the children's author Shel Silverstein and from something called situationism, an obscure avant-garde movement popularized in 1960s France.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

"Growing up is giving up. ... I think some band said that."

― this quote makes me very happy (nabisco), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I know many city-dwellers under the age of 30 who aren't okay with, if not downright fond of, interesting graffiti. Will this change, as people get older, and possibly have more of an actual economic attachment to the stuff getting painted up?

(One problem is the aesthetically-recognized but obviously not legally-recognizable difference between just crap messy tagging and self-aggrandizement and actual attempts at something much like "art," or at least something meant to please or interest the viewer.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

BORF IS BORING

(I always wanted to write that on a tag of his near where I work.)

― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

graffiti = great
tagging = boring bullshit
neck face = sucks

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

(XP) Some of them probably will once they start owning some of the property that is being tagged.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

That would indeed constitute an "economic attachment," yes.

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Even obviously answered questions still need to be answered, obviously.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

He spoke sneeringly of "rich people," though sometimes when he parked in the city his parents gave him $14 for the garage.

OMG, the hypocrisy! $14?

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

THE WASHINGTON POST PEOPLE

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

I live in the area, I went to art school, I like graffiti, and I think this stuff is 95% crap. His big pieces are great, but I could do without the hundreds of marker tags on mailboxes and signs.

― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

SITUATIONISTS RELEGATED TO FOOTNOTE SHOCKAH!!

― Kitten, the body needs it, the body cries out for Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I hate the kids who slap their tags on "HI MY NAME IS" things. BIG FUCKING DEAL.

In a past life I was an (h)stencil artist. I tried to do this crazy mystical shit in this weird space down by the river underneath a highway. The support pylons there are enormous and kind of look like some kind of temple.

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

I thought this thread was going to be about Tom Raney and Stan Lee.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

<cough>Banksy Ripoff<cough>

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 21 July 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Serves him right for trying to tarnish the drab utopia of DC.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 22 July 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

Aw he's only 18, thats so sweet.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 22 July 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

id rather see people spend their time on bigger pieces than on teeny tags. there's so much bad tagging in philly, done primarily by uarts students who think its "edgy". zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 22 July 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

If you followed Borf graffiti carefully, and there are those in this city who did, you'd have noticed that he sort of disappeared in the last few months. That's because, according to Borf himself in past interviews, as well as his mother yesterday, he was traveling in Europe, stopping off in Scotland to protest the G-8 summit. He returned to the Washington area Monday, his mother says.
....He spoke sneeringly of "rich people,"

― JFrameN, Friday, 22 July 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

borf was no cool "disco" dan, lemme tell ya that

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

The bits of his graffiti listed in that article sound less like Situationism and more like Fight Club-isms. Or rather, blurbs inspired by reading too much Palahniuk, considering how many people I know that read his stories and write similar things in their cruddy narratives.

― Kitten, the body needs it, the body cries out for Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Friday, 22 July 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

He imagined himself like the Zapatistas, the Mexican rebels who cover their faces. "Who I am is not as important as what I want," he said.

Okay...

― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

Aw, Cool Disco Dan. Nostalgia trip ...

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

Can we rocket this guy into the sun though?

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

Whatever, this kid is neat, I enjoy his attitudes about appropriation and reference (which are old hat at this point, but its still fun).

― OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps he should be made to fondle monkey nuts, and feel glad that he's contributing to the (pro)creative process. (The guy who's keying cars I mean. I have no use for graffitti or tagging.)

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 22 July 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

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