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Should there be one? If so, what should it say?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 23 July 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

lists for bored IT support staff.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 23 July 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

If anyone did try to create a Wikipedia entry for ILX, it would probably lead to a big deletion fight, with all the old Wikipedia hands going "yet another internet messageboard? it's not encyclopaedic! Delete!"

-- caitlin (wpsal...), April 11th, 2005.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

There was already a thread about this? Awww, fuck.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

No, no...even if there is, if it inspires someone to put up an entry, however stupid, then mission accomplished.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

oh, no, it was just mentioned on a couple of threads that weren't specifically about this.

: )

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Maybe we could argue that it's something more than a mere messageborad...

"ILX: not just a place where, geeks, pseudo-hipsters, and Goths in denial trade in buttsex jokes, but a way of life!

You know, the same way onanism or Carbage Pail Kids can be a a way of life."

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

who actually owns/runs ilxor.com?

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

I searched "wikipedia entry" and got caitlin's quote, on the results page, but didn't click, to read the thread. turns out, I said "no", on it.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure we could get an entry here:

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Main_Page

Tumililingan (ex machina), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

think of all the trolls we'd attract if we had a wiki.

juicy juice is 100 percent juice (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Didn't a bunch of trolls invade after all those corporate photoshops of album covers made its way around the blogosphere. I think I remember some people acting like trolls about music on here.

Tumililingan (ex machina), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Did they? I hadn't noticed.

Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

People should put up straight-faced entries for various ilx memes, "sonned by a wite kid", "noise dude", "a aol beef" etc

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Jody OTM, no good can come of this. Also (forgive me) the only answer to "what is ILX?" is http://www.ilxor.com .

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

isn't that domain dead now? or soon to be?

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

It doesn't seem to be loading.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

If nothing else, it's worth putting on wikipedia because of the number of times ilx has been mentioned in print publications.

mike h. (mike h.), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

It has?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Anything that routes new curious trolls to ILX seems like a bad idea to me. We already have plenty of homegrown trolls.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

What would be gained by having a wikipedia entry? Not meant as a diss of the idea, I'm just curious.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

I'm ashamed that it is replies to my mention of a wikipedia entry which are used as answers here.

Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

It would be deleted, I've seen similar entries deleted.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 23 July 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Why don't we make our own Wiki with links to ILX discussions relevent to the topic at hand? Like the HOUSE entry could explain what HOUSE is.

Tumililingan (ex machina), Saturday, 23 July 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

The "Rough Guide" threads seem llke a basis for a similar store of knowledge. (But was this what Jody was suggesting would be a troll magnet?)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't thinking in terms of getting anything gained from a wikipedia entry -- I just thought, well, it'd be cute. (Pitchfork and Fluxblog have entries, though.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Maybe to avoid trolls the address wouldn't be listed, making it like a mysterious, elite club! The music journalist freemasonry!

richardk (Richard K), Sunday, 24 July 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

If nothing else, it's worth putting on wikipedia because of the number of times ilx has been mentioned in print publications.
-- mike h. (m...), July 23rd, 2005 10:26 PM.

It has?
-- Forest Pines (forestpine...), July 23rd, 2005 10:27 PM.

yes

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Sunday, 24 July 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Haha, are German journalists that lazy?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 24 July 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

there is a wiki entry on "pwn", I notice, though that's obv. not an exclusive ilx-ism by any means.

Someone should write up an entry for "get one...." at the very least! come on, people.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Pwn


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PWN redirects here. For other uses, see PWN (disambiguation).



A player is "pwned" in a game of Counter-Strike. That player is not visible due to being moved elsewhere after losing.

The verb to pwn (past tense: pwned, pwnd, pwn'd, pwnt, pooned) as used by the Internet gaming subculture, means to beat or dominate an opponent. While it probably originated as a typographical error, or typo, of the word own, it is now used intentionally by many members of the subculture. The term has become so ubiquitous in Internet circles that it is often used outside of gaming contexts. Thus, gamers also recall it and label it as their own word known as "Powned."; for example, "He just got pwned in that debate" or "The hunters pwned that bear."


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1 Etymology


2 Leetspeak


3 Pronunciation


4 Derivative words


5 See also


6 External links


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Etymology

The most widely held theory is that pwn originated as a typo in first-person shooter games. Many first-person shooters have control configurations that require the user to place his or her fingers on the "a", "w", and "d" keys in order to move; when prompted to make a comment upon fragging (killing) one's opponent, hastily typing the word owned (slang expression used when defeating one's opponent) can result in a typo. Due to the proximity of the "p" and "o" keys on a standard QWERTY keyboard users commonly hit the "p" instead of the "o" key, resulting in the word pwned. Intentionally using pwn instead of own has become a part "leet" slang, along with other intentional misspellings such as teh for the and replacing exclamation points with 1s.


StarCraft


One story reports that in the game StarCraft, someone made a custom map where losing players would see a special message. However, instead of typing in "YOU WERE OWNED," a typo resulted in "YOU WERE PWNED." It is said that every use of the word pwn therefore comes from this one hapless misspelling, or a similar one occurring in a Warcraft or Unreal Tournament game. One possibility exists in a mispronunciation, in Diablo: Hellfire, where an enemy claims he will “own” you. The word is pronounced more like "puh-own". This may be somehow related to the "StarCraft Theory".


Rendering Error


One origination comes from an undisclosed game that reportedly corrupted the letter "o" when it was typed resulting in what appeared to be the letter "p"


One better than Own


One explanation is that the word's development mirrors the development of names given to popular programming languages. The 'C Programming Language' was given its name, as the next letter after an even earlier 'B'. 'C++' was the name given to the next iterative revision of C, an inside programming joke which recognizes '++' increments a value by 1. By the same logic, the word pwn represents own incremented by a value of 1.


Contraction


Some people believe that the word was originally a contraction of the term power-owned, pure ownage, pistol-owned, perfectly owned, ping-owned, player-owned, professionally owned, or properly owned. These are probably back-formations.


Pawned from Chess


Still another interpretation makes the case that pwned was not an accident, but instead a contraction of the word pawned. This theory is based upon the idea that the person who was defeated was owned, and then pawned off, as an item would be at a pawnshop. See pawnbroker.: Happens when you checkmate someone in a game of chess with a pawn.


Unix Password Own


One of the ideas of its origin comes from the Linux/Unix subculture. Password Own meant that a person owned the root password, and thus no one but the password owner could access that machine any longer. Password owning is such a powerful way to lock down a Unix machine that it explains how pwn could have gained popularity in online gaming as a more powerful version of own.


Alternate for owned after word was banned


Another theory supports the idea that pwned originated on gaming forums after the word owned was banned. Administrators banned the word to try to keep flame wars down, and as a result, forum users merely "censor-bypassed" it, changed the spelling to get past any auto-blockers in place. (See also article on Pr0n).


Dripping Blood "O"


Another theory suggests that pwned is a version of owned with supposed blood dripping from the "o".


Owned Carryover


It is likely that pwn is actually the result of a carryover of the word 0wned used by computer crackers on IRC to declare that they have successfully gained access to a computer or target (as in "I just 0wn3d that Windows box").


Pwnage


Another way the word 'Pwn' has been manipulated. Pwnage is a way of saying "I owned you" or "I beat you." Gamers have shortened it to Pwnage.


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Leetspeak

Main article: Leet

Pwn has become part of the sub-language of gamers called leet (short for elite) speak. While mostly used by gamers, this language is also used by those who commonly partake of IRC programs and other chat mediums such as AIM and Yahoo Messenger.

It is possible that one reason pwn has caught on in the gaming world is because the pronunciation of the letter "p" sounds more like an impact sound than "o," emphasizing the act of ownage.

According to some gamers, "pwnd" is a contraction for "Player-owned" meaning that one player has killed another. Likewise "ganked" is slang for "gang-killed" meaning that many players have killed one player.

WTFPwn! is derived from the contraction of the Internet slang term WTF ("What the fuck?") and pwn and is intended to suggest that a player was not just pwn'ed, but that such pwnage happened so quickly that the other player was left wondering what happened (and saying "What the fuck?").


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Pronunciation

Note: This page contains
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There is no uniform way to pronounce pwn as it is most often encountered in text. Possible pronunciations include:


/po?n/ (p'own; "own" with a p-sound prefixed)


/p?n/ (as in "put")


BrE {{/p??n/}} (rhymes with "moan") (most common)


AmE /p?n/, BrE /p??n/ (as "pawn" in chess)


/p??n/ (the participle pwnd would be pronounced fittingly like "pound", or else simply rendered as "pounded")


/pw?n/ (as "pwin")


/pu?n/ (rhymes with "soon", this comes from pronouncing the "w" as in Welsh, but also has a sexual connotation)


AmE /p?n/, BrE /p?n/ (rhymes with "on")


AmE /pr?n/, BrE /pr??n/ (as prawn)


/pi??w?n/ (as "pea win")


/pi??o?n/ (as "pea own")


/pju?n/ (similar to /pu?n/, but with a "y" sound included)


just as "own," ignoring the typo


in some cases, with two syllables, as pay-ween or puht-ween.

People pronouncing pwn in certain ways are many times subject to ridicule.


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Derivative words


Al Capwned (quasi-rhyming slang) usually synonymous with pwned, although a sense of surprise is implied.


p00ned also synonymous with pwned.


Post-Pwned pwned at least twice by the same person. Used to mean "Pwned and Pwned again."


Powned is synonymous with pwned


Pwnage (Pwnij, Pwn4g3) means complete domination. The exclamation originated in the gaming culture.


Pwnzor (Pwnz0r) used as a different form of pwn, although they have the same meaning and usage, such as "Outlaw, I pwnz0red you."


Pwnzerd (Pwnz3rded, Pwnx3rded) past form of pwn. Same usage as pwned, but can also be used as another form of Pwnz0r.


Tehpwnzor (Tehpwnz0r, T3hpwnzor) nominal form of the aforementioned pwnzor, prefixed by the leetspeek teh. Usage: "That torrent site is tehpwnz0r." It's also the name of a badge-giving boss in City of Heroes.


Tehpwnzriate embellished variant of the verb Pwnzor. Spoken aloud more frequently than typed because of its awkward spelling. Usage: "Man, that horse completely tehpwnzriated that guy."


Pwnt is an alternate of the past tense or past participle of the verb Pwn. An example usage would be "You were pwnt." Another variation is Pwn3d.


Pizwn3d (piz- followed by the preferred pronunciation of "-wn3d") is used as a more intense version of pwn, meaning that one has been "completely pwn3d". It derives from the hip-hop culture habit of adding the infix, -iz-, to words. It may also be in reference to the Pizza Hut P'Zone commercial, but probably not.


WTFpwned!? is widely used variant. Although its exact origin is unknown, it usually refers to an intensified "Pwned!" in a situation where it looked like the opponent was about to win, or a winning by a player that usually loses, or generally a surprising loss.


Pwn'd! the phonetic misspelling past tense of the word 'pwn'


Pwn't Similar to pwn'd


Pwnted An interesting variant of the past-tense of pwn (contraction of pwnt and pwned). Although grammatically it is illogical (the word is a double-past tense), the word can actually serve to denote repeated pwnings or a severity of pwnage that has been exacted in an uncommon fashion. Pwnted is the result of a nub who was recently taught leetspeak attempting to use leetspeak in his own sentences.


Also, J-Pwned. Adding "J-" to anything for emphasis, from the term J-Pop for popular Japanese music.


In relative to this, 'chizowned' is also used. Chizowned (Ch-is-owned) is also in relation to the cheese in the victim's skills. It is believed to come from Cheeze Wiz (contracted to Chiz) plus owned.


PWNSauce, another derivative of pwn, meant to describe owning someone in a "hot-doggish" or flamboyant manner.


Oregapwned an act of having one smoke oregano thinking it is illegal substance, coined by gamers. Ie. at Round III


Owntehpwnsord A combination of the original ownage and the derivative pwnage, it combines the two terms into one meaning you didn't stand a chance back when people said ownage and you don't stand a chance now.


Qwned, pronounced "quoned" is a lesser-known derivative of owned and pwned; as p follows o, q logically follows p. It is intended to be somewhat satirical of pwned as it would be a very unlikely typo. Also, when typed in lowercase, the "q" in qwned resembles an inverted lowercase "p".


Modus Pwnened, derived from modus ponens, a simple argument form in logic (Latin: mode that affirms).


Potatowned, a simple humerous form of "owned" or "pwned".


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See also


Internet slang


Typographical error


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External links


A theory of etymology


Pure Pwnage-Website


A humorous Flash movie showing a guy getting Pwned on Counter Strike. Warning: Offensive language. This Flash contains many phrases that are commonly referred to in Leetspeak.

Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Sunday, 24 July 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

"tehpwnzriate" is my favourite at the moment.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

Also "wtfpwned" LOL D00D YUO JUST GOT TEH WTFPWNJ!!!1!11!!!1!oneone

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!!!!ELEVEN!!!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

I smother you in PWNSauce!111!

Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Monday, 25 July 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

There are already too many people on ilx, wikipedia would just make it worse.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

I dunno. Recently I've been thinking "This place is a snotty argumentative hellhole. We really should see about getting more Libertarians in."

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahaha!

Tumililingan (ex machina), Monday, 25 July 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

If you type in "I love music" to Wiki, it refers you to "Ilx.wh3rd.net," and I'd say that's good enough for now.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 25 July 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noize

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 25 July 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

I am giggling thinking of a German dude saying "CLASSIK OR WHAT?"

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 25 July 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Wait, just the one?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 July 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boredoms

"Junior Boredoms Appreciation Society" LD:DD::D

A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 09:04 (twenty years ago)

hahaha that's awesome

latebloomer: virtuous, pure and masculine like only an American male can be (lat, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 09:06 (twenty years ago)

los angeles ip address this summer

A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 09:25 (twenty years ago)

that might explain some of the randoms that show up

A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 09:25 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_Music

ok, how can i get this "don't listen if you hate us" compilation?

Zeno, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

I need to bookmark the Rough Guide page, I think.

aldo, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

xpost! amazingly!

Um, ask! Someone has them, I don't know who.

Ed has all the Vol 3 ones (the "ILX has a bucket" one), but he's not on these boards anymore, so I don't know where/how they are.

Mark G, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

jel had some copies of the first two and was supposed to be posting them out but that was months ago and mine never arrived, but it might be worth asking him? also, I never got a copy of the third one either, come to think of it. anyone willing to do me a copy of all of them?

ailsa, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:20 (eighteen years ago)

Ed has gone? :(

You could track him down via flickr.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

You could also track him down via an email on the "ILX Has a bucket" thread.

Mark G, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

He cannot escape! (unless he changes his email)

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

Why did he go, anyway?

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

haha nobody leaves ilx, yer silly sausage

Ste, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

Kate left.

xpost, but to which?

Mark G, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:37 (eighteen years ago)

ailsa, i can do you a copy of the thrid one incidentally.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

someone having fun editing?

I Love Music (ILM) is an Internet popular music forum started by pop critic Tom Ewing in August 2000 as an adjunct to his music website, Freaky Trigger.[1]

Notable posters have included Momus,[2] Simon Reynolds, Philip Sherburne, Drew Daniel of Matmos and The Soft Pink Truth,[3] John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats,[4] Frank Kogan, Ned Raggett,[5] former The Wire editor Mark Sinker, former Village Voice music editor Chuck Eddy, Peter Criss (creator of terrible music), former Pitchfork Media critics Brent DiCrescenzo and Chris "Whale" Ott and Fluxblog author Matthew Perpetua.[citation needed]

I Love Music shares server space with its sister board, I Love Everything, which was introduced in June 2001.[1] Several other boards contained on the site have sprung up in the years since including All Noise Dude Summertime Fun Board and Pickle Bar, Cape of Good Hope, I Love Books, I Love Games, I Love NFL, I Love Butthoelz and De Subjectivisten.[6]

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 November 2019 06:46 (six years ago)

mods how do we get access to butthoelz borad

j., Monday, 25 November 2019 06:49 (six years ago)

And what sock is the Catman using, while we're at it?

War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 November 2019 12:48 (six years ago)

catman is treeship

mark s, Monday, 25 November 2019 12:50 (six years ago)


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