TS: Jack Daniels vs. Jim Beam

Jamesons.

I love it, but you guys are AVOIDING THE QUESTION.

BTW: The best thing I've ever read about Wild Turkey.

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"Basically, "hardcore" means that if you’re drinkin’, you’re drinkin’ for real and not sippin’ on wine coolers or Zima (*ahem*, annexation) while all your homies are passing out underneath the pinball machine. "Hardcore" is a term to be honored and praised. Drink the Turkey."

The Best Whisky I've had was 'Mortlach 20 year old limited release cask strength'

Scotch should be Scotch, no exceptions.

And Wild Turkey? Come on y'all, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills

I hear Blue is good, but only from people who don't know shit about Scotch, but feel like it's good if they pay a lot for it. Johnnie Walker is making a mint off of American boobs who think they know Scotch.

It's a completely different drink.

I'd say it's the best bourbon I've ever had. If you know a better one, I'd owe you a favor if you shared.

Especially while drinking bourbon.

I've drunk a swimming pool of Jim Beam in my life starting when I was a teenager. Makers Mark is better, but it costs a whole much more a bottle.

Nothing is as sweet as Southern Comfort. That stuff is a headache waiting to happen.

Wild Turkey is a distinct pleasure that should be enjoyed in the 101 variety, and possibly straight out the bottle.

in the mid-range category, I hope you mean. There are about twenty considerably better bourbons than Makers. Eagle Rare, Woodford Reserve, Blanton's for starters.

so what do we say? i like both but as someone who is only begun to drink whiskey i can't make an educated pick

*has

am more curious what people would choose drinking it on the rocks, rather than w/ cola or ginger ale or something

(even tho i know there's much better bourbon/whiskey out there for that purpose)

have always hated Jack Daniels. Absolute shite that is popular because of marketing. Don't know if I've ever had Jim Beam.

also, what's the best cheap bourbon/tennesee? am going on vacation next week, want to bring something decent to sip on but am low on cash

A pox on the them both.

Beam's better.

This quote, from 4 years ago, is so inaccurate it's a howler: "Knob Creek (the best whiskey you've ever had in your life, I don't care if you're Irish)."

Also, it has a lot to do with home soil. Beam is made by people that, if I don't know personally, at least understand well -- Kentucky hillbillies. White trash is my roots. And white trash does some good things, too.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:05 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is hilarious.

yea i think kenan was drinking some whiskey when he was posting in this thread

Let's hope.

I ran out at lunchtime and was able to score a bottle of 15 year old Van Winkle Reserve. Bottle King in Ramsey NJ, I've never seen it in these parts before.

i work down the street from there

also, what's the best cheap bourbon/tennesee? am going on vacation next week, want to bring something decent to sip on but am low on cash

― mark cl, Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

for cheap sipping, i ususally prefer a rye, like old overholt or something.

My votes for best cheap:

For bourbon, Beam Black Label.

For TN, Jack or George Dickel.

If you go ANY cheaper than these, you will regret it in the morning. I promise.

"am more curious what people would choose drinking it on the rocks"

scotch. i don't actually drink a lot of whiskey, but if i do it's gonna be glennfiddimorangeyphroaig or something like that. why bother with bourbon at all unless you are touring with Ratt or trying to save pennies. maybe i'm a bad american.

i used to drink rebel yell when i was a kid. cuz i was really cool.

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and i used to drink wilson's as a kid too simply because their motto was "That's All!" i very seriously considered getting a "That's All!" tattoo in high school.

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oh my gosh that's great!

Scott, did you ever drink with this woman?

4/7/2003 WILSON BLENDED WHISKEY
The label on the bottle was peeling off. Mike, the bartender at Bamonte's (an ancient Italian Restaurant in Brooklyn, New York), guessed that it was 40 or 50 years old. I couldn't resist and ordered a small glass of it. The label noted that it was "grain neutral spirit and whiskey." The label also boasted, "Regardless of Price, No Better Whiskey in the World. That's All." That, along with the seven little red stars (apparently signifying its classy stature), made me giggle. The whiskey itself was astonighinly smooth: very easy, dry, and with, oddly, a note of peppermint. There was little nuance; clearly this was made for knocking back in sweltering weather. It was, I confess, pelasant. Clearly unratable, due to it being so strange (Jack Daniels or Bourbon this is not). We hear that this stuff is still made. One wonders if what it is now is like what it was way back when...

reba yow just might be the coolest name on earth.

i wanna start trying some japanese whiskeys. they are supposed to be good. guess i could start with suntory. where is steve shasta when i need him.

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ok see now i want to track down some wilsons whiskey. thx whiskey thread!

yeah, they were selling wilsons in the 80's in connecticut anyway. i haven't looked for it since then. it WAS smooth. i don't know what the hell they put in it. but it was easy drinkin'.

"i work down the street from there"

I work on Boroline Road in Allendale. Go to the whiskey section, top shelf all the way toward the wall on the right.

we used to buy Evan Williams "Green Label" for $2.99 a fifth when we were teenagers and you could still purchase alcohol at 18 in certain Louisian parishes. None of were 18.

it was not good.

jameson for on the rocks, but i can go with either JB or JD. black and white is pretty easy going down too.

I'm usually more of a beer person, but I have been bonding with my Kentucky roots the past month and this week I picked up a 750 of the 7 year Jim Beam. It is is some good stuff. The thing I have always wondered about these kind of spirits was the first guy to realize that yeah, leave that barrel be for 7 years and THEN IT WILL REALLY TASTE GOOD. Mead that started this whole mess had to be a total screw up that came out brilliant.

my god, this thread.

Do you mean that positively or negatively?

oh, it's a good thread, of course. a very good thread.

Jack Daniels is rotgut. Jim beam knows what they're doing.

bit of snobbishness against JD i think? it's not that bad at all, and i'm not sure it's that different to JB in any case,

for sipping- scotch every time, definitely. but both JB & JD are good options for mixing or what have you

beam tastes pretty good out of the bottle, jd doesn't taste good no matter what you do to it

tasted plenty of good jd in my time. tho the best was a 12 or 15 year oak barrel bottle i got for graduation from my brother, it's true

kenan was wrong at the top of this thread. there is some difference.

Between what and what?

the key diff between jack and jb is the sugar maple charcoal filtering process that all the tennessee whiskeys use, which is not permissible under the guidelines for making bourbon.

not really a fan of either of these tbh, there are better products available at the same price point(s).

I think Jim Beam have totally said fxxx it with the Jim Beam Black. It's pretty much Jack Beam for like $5 a fifth less. Very smooth and 86 proof...

All that said, Four Roses is the the best stuff of not crazy expensive bourbon. It's still a couple bucks less than Makers which is really good too, so don't front. For stuff that is cheap, you got to go with either 1793 or bottled in bond (white label) Evan Williams. You can get a 1/5 of Bottled in Bond for like 12 bucks here.

JIm Beam Black is stuff they actually left in the barrel long enough to be tasty
Jack Daniels had a little harshness the mapley charcoal filtering mostly cuts and leaves you with an off-tasting sweetness. Now they water it down so you just get the off-sweet.

Any of the Beam novelty ones (devil's cut, the new double-barreled stuff) is pretty ok and on sale fairly often

the local store was pushing Benchmark which is either under-aged or below-quality buffalo trace, but it is like.. $12/bottle

The owner of the Haymarket Whiskey Bar in Louisville, who is deep into the whole single barrel and high end KY bourbon scene believes that Benchmark is the best of the cheap stuff. He said that Buffalo Trace cuts their low end to make up Benchmarks bottles. To me, I think the Evan Williams Black is better, but they both will get you there for just a couple bucks and are fantastic if you are going to mix it with coke or 7up anyway.

Devil's Cut tastes like Canadian Whisky to me. It's got that brown vodka thing going on.

It's not bad, but to me got a different whang.

that's fair, I think the secret formula is to take half whiskey, then put grain alcohol in the empty barrel and shake it up until it's brown to finish

I've pretty much stopped buying Jack for parties and stuff - Monkey Shoulder (Scotch blend) and 2 Gingers (Irish) are both really good and within a couple of bucks of Jack around here.

Jim Beam is terrible and I wouldn't make my worst enemy drink it.

jack is fine

jim is awful

evan is about as cheap as i would go

i don't drink whiskey anymore though

Henry McKenna best value whisky on Earth

Knob Creek (the best whiskey you've ever had in your life, I don't care if you're Irish).

I don't know why people insist on making asinine statements like this. You like what you like. I like what I like. This is as much as can be said.

(nb: I'm not irish, but I do like irish whiskey better than any sour mash/"bourbon" whiskey I've had. so sue me. on second thought, no don't. because it would be unutterably stupid.)

well bourbon and irish whiskey really have nothing to do w/each other as far as ingredients and production methods go so yeah i'd call it a nonproductive discussion