Dubya Threatens Veto of McCain's Anti-Torture Legislation

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Betcha McCain's REAL GLAD he helped campaign for Bush/Cheney '04...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050725/ap_on_go_co/congress_detainees

GOP Senators Push Detainee Treatment Rules
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
47 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Senate Republicans pushed ahead Monday with legislation that would set rules for the treatment and interrogation of terrorism suspects in U.S. custody, despite a White House veto threat.

The Bush administration, led by Vice President Dick Cheney, is working to kill the amendments that GOP Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina want to tack onto a bill setting Defense Department policy for next year.

McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, and Graham, who spent 20 years as an Air Force lawyer, introduced the legislation Monday. Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Va., has endorsed the effort.

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Cheney met with the three Republican lawmakers just off the Senate floor for about 30 minutes Thursday evening. That followed an administration statement that President Bush's advisers would recommend a veto of the overall bill if amendments were added that restricted the president's ability to conduct the war on terrorism and protect Americans...

and that's how they'll frame it. Any effort to stop torture is unpatriotic...

but still, we've reached the point where even common-sense legislation from the Preznit's own party members(e.g. documenting all prisoners with Red Cross, standardizing handling of prisoners according to the U.S. Army Field manual) is even threatened.

So, we now have two veto threats on record, from the guy who hasn't vetoed shit ever, against measures that a sufficient amount of Repubs & Democrats agree on: stem cell research & torture.

if you want two key issues to campaign on, there ya go.

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 25 July 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

You know, for a Republican, Lindsey Graham sure has surprised the hell out of me.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 25 July 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

see also Chuck Hegel re: Rove thing

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 25 July 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

http://www.newgenevacenter.org/portrait/hegel.jpg

bodum, Monday, 25 July 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

jowlsy, but not jowlsy enough

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 25 July 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

Well, Hagel's always been a gruff, solid, far-from-brilliant, traditional Republican. I'd imagine that some recent developments are a horror to him.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 25 July 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Bush opposes setting limits on torture because it would prevent the RNC from torturing potential upset candidates (i.e. McCain) into submission.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

Bush "torturing" McCain into submission. Yeah, Hurting, that's a good one.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

how about "waterboarding"?

"water bored ing"?

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

i forget who wrote this, but it seemed to make a lot of sense: idea is that the bush crowd is into copying reagan but in a counterintuitive way. they want to regraft reagan's domestic policy to the int'l realm -- reagan saw the US economy as being needlessly clogged up and fettered by regulation, keynsianism, labor unions, etc, and he wanted to clear all that annoying bullshit away and let the golden beast free or whatever. bush et al see US force in the same way: scrap the UN, the ICC, even NATO, even geneva, and we can do our good works without any namby pamby jawing beforehand. any limit to the freedom of US action is viewed as a mild variety of the same kind of evil.

silver lining: no more kissinger

geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

"wait dad, i thought we were the good guys." -young, naive msp age 7.

msp (mspa), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

McCain's amendment sounds better than Warner's, but not as good as Levin's. So once again McCain comes across as a saint for acting slightly more like a Democrat than most Republicans.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
whoever said no more kissenger is wrong, according to woodward, kissenger's been to the whitehouse several times

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 30 September 2006 06:31 (nineteen years ago)


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