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9, Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

"[The Native Americans] didn't have any rights to the land and there was no reason for anyone to grant them rights which they had not conceived and were not using.... What was it they were fighting for, if they opposed white men on this continent? For their wish to continue a primitive existence, their "right" to keep part of the earth untouched, unused and not even as property, just keep everybody out so that you will live practically like an animal, or maybe a few caves above it. Any white person who brought the element of civilization had the right to take over this continent." (Q&A session following her Address To The Graduating Class Of The United States Military Academy at West Point, New York, March 6, 1974)

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

"An Asian peasant who labors through all of his waking hours, with tools created in Biblical times—a South American aborigine who is devoured by piranha in a jungle stream—an African who is bitten by the tsetse fly—an Arab whose teeth are green with decay in his mouth—these do live with their 'natural environment,' but are scarcely able to appreciate its beauty. Try to tell a Chinese mother, whose child is dying of cholera: 'Should one do everything one can? Of course not.' Try to tell a Russian housewife, who trudges miles on foot in sub-zero weather in order to spend hours standing in line at a state store dispensing food rations, that America is defiled by shopping centers, expressways and family cars."

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)

"What is greatness? I will answer- it is the capacity to live by the three fundamental values of John Galt: reason, purpose, self-esteem." (Playboy Interview, March 1964)

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

"So long as the Negro leaders were fighting against government-enforced discrimination-right, justice and morality were on their side. But that is not what they are fighting any longer...Instead of fighting against racial discrimination, they are demanding that racial discrimination be legalized and enforced. Instead of fighting against racism, they are demanding the establishment of racial quotas. Instead of fighting for 'color-blindness' in social and economic issues, they are proclaiming that 'color-blindness' is evil and that 'color' should be made a primary consideration. Instead of fighting for equal rights, they are demanding special race privileges."

54, Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

"I like to think of fire held in a man's hand. Fire, a dangerous force, tamed at his fingertips. I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a spot of fire alive in his mind--and it is proper that he should have the burning point of a cigarette as his one expression."

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

One day in 1950, Ayn Rand received a fan letter from a young man named Nathaniel Branden. She was so impressed by the young man's intellect that, quite uncharacteristically, she wrote back to him.
Though Branden was married and twenty-five years Rand's junior, the correspondence led to an affair which lasted for more than a decade. The relationship served more than a purely physical function. Indeed, Rand once claimed to need sex with Branden at least twice a week - in order to ward off writer's block.

Rand made Branden her 'intellectual heir' and chief spokesperson; he refined her Objectivist ideas into a strict philosophical system and founded an institute bearing his own name. The affair ended in 1968 when Branden took up with another disciple. He later became a Beverly Hills psychotherapist.

2, Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

Dwayne: [giving a tour of the underground mutant city in the sewer] This is our library.
Bender: Nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

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3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

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3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

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2, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.theatlasphere.com/dating/

2, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

In my humble opinion, the people getting all upset over the fact that there is a John Galt porn star who reads Ayn Rand — as if that were some kind of betrayal of Objectivism or opposition to Objectivism or to the Randian spirit — are just plain out-to-lunch. They are so caught up in the mythological Ayn Rand that they miss the real Ayn Rand, the historical Ayn Rand. Rand the man-worshiper.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

Something of this implication is fixed in the book's dictatorial tone, which is much its most striking feature. Out of a lifetime of reading, I can recall no other book in which a tone of overriding arrogance was so implacably sustained. Its shrillness is without reprieve. Its dogmatism is without appeal. In addition, the mind, which finds this one natural to it, shares other characteristics of its type. 1) It consistently mistakes raw force for strength, and the rawer the force, the more reverent the posture of the mind before it. 2) It supposes itself to be the bringer of a final revelation. Therefore, resistance to the Message cannot be tolerated because disagreement can never be merely honest, prudent or just humanly fallible. Dissent from revelation so final (because, the author would say, so reasonable) can only be willfully wicked. There are ways of dealing with such wickedness, and, in fact, right reason itself enjoins them. From almost any page of Atlas Shrugged, a voice can be heard, from painful necessity, commanding: " To the gas chambers-- go!"

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles2/ChambersAynRand.shtml

4, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

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23, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

She has piercing eyes that seem to look right through you and a wonderful way of pinning you to the wall. You can't make any loose statements to Ayn Rand; she hops on you and says, "Let us examine your premises." She asked me an infinite number of questions. Later on, after she came to Random House, she showed me a chart she had kept. She had visited about fifteen publishers, and when she got home she rated them on all the things they had said. I didn't realize, of course, that I was being examined this way, but I came out very high because I had been absolutely honest with her. I had said, "I find your political philosophy abhorrent." Nobody else had dared tell her this.

2, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

Ayn's a very simple and modest woman. We were on our way to lunch in Radio City once, and as we passed one of those junk shops with all kinds of statues and knickknacks, she saw a little blue bracelet in the window, and like a twelve-year-old girl, Ayn said, "Isn't that a beautiful bracelet!" So I went in and bought it for her. It cost exactly one dollar, but she was as happy as a child.

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

PLAYBOY: You have said that the kind of man who spends his time running after women is a man who "despises himself." Would you elaborate?

RAND: This type of man is reversing cause and effect in regard to sex. Sex is an expression of a man's self-esteem, of his own self-value. But the man who does not value himself tries to reverse this process. He tries to derive his self-esteem from his sexual conquests, which cannot be done. He cannot acquire his own value from the number of women who regard him as valuable. Yet that is the hopeless thing which he attempts.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

"Run for your life from anyone who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another - their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of the gun. Do you want to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of society's virtue."

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

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MOVIELINE: What's your favorite novel?

RICCI: The Fountainhead because the writing is so beautiful.

MOVIELINE: What about The Catcher in the Rye?

RICCI: I hate The Catcher in the Rye. It's so whiny and incredibly self-involved. The fact that it was supposed to represent what we were going through in our teen years - I was just like, fuck you. I can take responsibility for my emotions and actions.

MOVIELINE: If you could have three wishes connected to the movies, what would they be?

RICCI: I'd want to remake The Fountainhead. I'd like to run a studio. I want to have the capacity and ability to make films - I don't have it right now.

Q: Would you say you have a large ego? A: Yes.

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

In the WB’s One Tree Hill, Rand’s work was showcased in an episode entitled, “Are You True?” The main character, Lucas, is given Atlas Shrugged by a fellow classmate. Increasingly frustrated by his troubles on the basketball court, Lucas is told “Don’t let ‘em take it — your talent. It’s all yours.” By the end of the episode, we hear Lucas’s voice-over as he walks to the basketball court: “Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplaceable spark.” Reading from the John Galt speech, he tells us, “Do not let the hero in your soul perish.”

2, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

sorry it's just that now that the topic of sex with ayn rand has been broached I can't stop thinking about it.
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Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

The Giant Treasury of Objectivist Humor, the publication of which the Ayn Rand Institute had long blocked by lawsuits (see the Postscript below), is now available from The Objectivist Center (TOC, formerly the Institute of Objectivist Studies). I warn potential readers that in what follows I will be revealing some of the jokes presented therein. But as the book contains well over a thousand pages, weighs in at eight-and-a-half pounds (in the hardcover edition), and is longer even than Atlas Shrugged, there should be plenty left over when I'm through.

For make no mistake: this is a big book. And nothing could demonstrate more clearly that Objectivists' reputation for humorless, prickly dogmatism is undeserved.

The humor included here ranges from brief riddles ("Q: Why won't Leonard Peikoff wear a digital watch? A: Because he's a second-hander.") to a longer, Mad Magazine-style parody in which Alissa Rosenbaum publishes an advice column under the pen name "Ayn Randers." (Sample entry: "Dear Ayn Randers: Help! I've lost my car keys! My wife says they're somewhere in our house, but my son says they're not. What should I do? Sign me: Keyless in Milwaukee. Dear Keyless: Check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong.")

Most of the jokes here will be funny only to insiders, but there's no doubt that they hit the marks they aim at. The following riddle, for example, is offered in two variants, one "orthodox/Peikovian" and one "heterodox/Kelleyite."

First the "ARI" version:

Q: What's two plus two?
A: Whatever Ayn Rand said it was.


Immediately followed by the "TOC" version:

Q: What's two plus two?
A: Ayn Rand said it was "four," but she never followed up on her own groundbreaking insight. Now, thanks to the work of David Kelley, we're finally able to verify her result independently and give it the attention it deserves.

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

The rest of the chapter is rich with ribald humor:

Q: Why was Ayn Rand so upset when Nathaniel Branden ended their affair?
A: Because he wasn't being Frank with her.

The majority of the rest are, unfortunately, unprintable here.

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

Eventually Branden found the prospect of sex with his, by then, 63-year-old mentor so repugnant that he broke off the relationship by admitting that he was having an affair with a younger woman, not his wife. The revelation so wounded Rand’s by then monstrous ego, that Rand vowed to destroy Branden. She oversaw the demolition of the Nathaniel Branden Institute, a school which had been established to promote her thought, and she attempted to have the publication of his books blocked. In addition to destroying the Objectivist movement, Rand’s rage over being the scorned women pointed out the contradictions in her philosophy of selfishness. Branden was supposed to sacrifice himself to her lust while at the same time promoting the virtue of selfishness. Rand, who promoted people who lived only for themselves, found that she could not live without her worshipping protégé.

3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

I don't know much about Ayn Rand (I think she wasn't taken very seriously in Europe), but based on what I've read on ILE and on this thread she sounds like an ultraliberalist asshole.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

Rand herself, alas, was no beauty; her glorious heroines, ridiculously gorgeous, impossibly named, remarkably lithe, are less the template for - as some allege - a sinister eugenic agenda than the stuff of Ayn's randy dreams garnished with a dollop of Art Deco kitsch. The first, extraordinarily violent, coupling in "The Fountainhead" of Howard Roark with Dominique Francon is not a general prescription for the relationship between the sexes but merely Rand's own erotic fantasy ("wishful thinking," she once announced, to the cheers of a delighted crowd).

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

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3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

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4, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

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3, Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

a South American aborigine who is devoured by piranha

That would be one very hungry little piranha.

mole, Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

She got her big break when she was hanging around outside some film studio. Cecil B. De Mille was driving by in his car, saw her, got the chauffeur to stop and picked her up. No one knows what happenned in the remainder of the short car journey, but it led to De Mille giving Ayn Rand a job as a screenwriter.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 July 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

I don't know much about Ayn Rand (I think she wasn't taken very seriously in Europe)

At times like this I love Tuomas and all of Finland

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

I hadn't heard of her till a couple of days ago on ILE. Yeh, she sounds like a loon.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

I did write a paper on how great Ayn Rand was in high school because the Ayn Rand Institute was giving away a big scholarship award for the best essay on Ayn Rand. My insincerity must have shone through, because I didn't win.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

"The Fountainhead" with Gary Cooper was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Every movement that seeks to enslave a country, every dictatorship or potential dictatorship, needs some minority group as a scapegoat which it can blame for the nation's troubles and use as a justification of its own demand for dictatorial powers. In Soviet Russia, the scapegoat was the bourgeoisie; in Nazi Germany, it was the Jewish people; in America, it is the businessmen.

-- Ayn Rand, "America's Persecuted Minority: Big Business," Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Jesus, what a cretin

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

my best ayn rand story involves a group of us jokingly/not jokingly having an "Intervention" for a friend too obsessed with randisms. mainly an occasion to drink some beer and get fucked up and WASTE some time having FUN instead of working too hard to own the world with our integrity and supermanism.

m.

msp (mspa), Thursday, 28 July 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Why is this thread?

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 29 July 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

the proud thread need not answer to others.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 29 July 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

someone totally needs to do a starship troopers-style adaptation of "Atlas Shrugged".

latebloomer: You may order a puppet similar to this one (latebloomer), Friday, 29 July 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

Why was Ayn Rand?

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 29 July 2005 05:29 (twenty years ago)

I dunno. Beats me.

Atlas, Friday, 29 July 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

The Soviets should have controlled emigration better so she never made it to the US.

Jack Cole (jackcole), Friday, 29 July 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

Was she ever taken seriously? I had come across her name several times, without pos/neg criticism, so I figured I needed to *investigate further*. Then I discovered her ideas and wonder why I ever bothered to be even vaguely interested.

nathalie's body's designed for two (stevie nixed), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

Then I discovered her ideas and wonder why I ever bothered to be even vaguely interested.

Happy condescending!

I like that the Ayn Rand Institute must compete with the RAND Institute (short for Research and Development). Google knows the winner.

Rob Uptight. (Rob Uptight.), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

someone totally needs to do a starship troopers-style adaptation of "Atlas Shrugged".

This is soooo U&K!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Nicole, my high school had the same thing. I was surprised at the contest, and wondered why there wasn't a Trotsky Essay Award, for balance. I considered writing the essay, but I had already read "Anthem" at that point, and would rather have poured boiling silverfish into my ears than think about or read anything of hers again. "Anthem" actually kind of moved along, and it was a short book, and not that different, in its way, from "Fahrenheit 451." Until the end, when whatever sympathies and suspensions of disbelief I'd entertained snapped like an old rubber band.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

(3th4n, that Whittaker Chambers piece up there is the business! His style reminds me a lot of James Wolcott's.)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

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already disheveled hair projection (wetmink), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

Was she ever taken seriously?

In the States, yes.

My friend Lizzy considered writing an essay for the Ayn Rand Institute after finding out about it.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

I did write a paper on how great Ayn Rand was in high school because the Ayn Rand Institute was giving away a big scholarship award for the best essay on Ayn Rand. My insincerity must have shone through, because I didn't win.

I won $30! I think they missed the fact that I thought Anthem fucking sucked.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

Was she ever taken seriously?

Have you ever heard of the republican party? It's this group of people in the u.s. that takes her seriously.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

except for that atheism thing.

already disheveled hair projection (wetmink), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

Whenever I read Garu G's posts I like to picture Ayn Rand.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

Your search - "ayn rand slash fiction" - did not match any documents.

ask and ye shall recieve:
http://www.angelfire.com/goth/randismygod/OBJECTIVISTFANFICTION.HTML

mouse (mouse), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

Members of the Libertarian Party also take her seriously.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

DAGNY LAY ON HIS BED FOR A WHILE, RECOVERING. SHE HAD JUST GIVEN JOHN GALT A BLOWJOB. THIS WOULD BE THE MOST RATIONAL THING SHE WOULD DO ALL DAY.



Hahaha! Oh my God.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

"Was she ever taken seriously?"

yes - by folks like ALAN GREENSPAN.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

SOMTIMES I LIKE TO FLOAT ME WILLY IN THE BATHF OR A GOOD BIT THEN STICK IT ON ME DANS BUM TILL SHE HAS TO TAKE A POO THEN I TAKE A WEE IN HER FLANGE

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Always very glad I was never interested in reading her books, based on what little I have since read from them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

That is a mind-bender of a sentence.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Precisely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I had to read The Fountainhead in school (part of the whole scholarship dealio), I can't deny it is absurd in an entertaining way. That some people take the book seriously is what frightens me.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I guess that works Curtis. I was thinking of Ayn in the role of Gran though.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Reagan was a fan too, IIRC

latebloomer: giving first aid the already disheveled hair projection (latebloom, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
The terrible writing and terrible philosophy are somewhat of a piece with one another. It's often noted how her philosophy was very much an exaggerated reaction against Communist thought; I wonder sometimes whether her writing style was in any way an exaggerated reaction against Russia's tradition of producing decent literature.

-- nabisco (--...), October 22nd, 2004.

_, Monday, 26 September 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

Have you ever heard of the republican party? It's this group of people in the u.s. that takes her seriously.

Which is why the Republican party is socialist compared to Rand. You can say a lot of bad things about the Republican party but you can't have it both be a far-right fascist party and a far-right libertarian party when the two beliefs are as much opposite as liberal and conservative.

Cunga (Cunga), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)

"hello boys i just stuck a wad of $100 bills in my unused dry vagina"

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Repost from the "POOSSYHORSE / Seattle bus stories" thread...


On my way to work (Scott: this is the 26-->39 bus if you're keeping notes), I was sitting in the back of the bus. Sitting near me also were:

* a very dressed up young urban professional woman reading Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead
* a disgruntled dishoveled large bald man

These two start to interact:

MAN: Great book you're reading.
WOMAN: Why, thank you!
MAN: What inspired you to buy it?
WOMAN: Well, I was talking to some friends at work, and they recommended the book to me, so I went to a bookstore, read it through, it looked interesting, and NOW I can't stop reading it! It's fascinating!
MAN: (pauses) Yeah, it is interesting, I'll give it that! (smiles)
WOMAN: (smiles back)
...
WOMAN: Ah, that's my stop!
MAN: You have a good day, madam
WOMAN: Why, thank you very much. (smiles)
WOMAN: *gets off bus*
MAN: *turns to me*
MAN: WORST FUCKIN BOOK EVER WRITTEN!
MAN: ...
MAN: But SHEEEE was FI-I-I-NE!

donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

The best thing I ever heard said about Ayn Rand was (I believe; fuzzy memory) the answer to a question published in Esquire's Answer Fella column:

Q: How do you pronounce Ayn Rand's name?

A: With a derisive snort.

willpie (willpie), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

You can say a lot of bad things about the Republican party but you can't have it both be a far-right fascist party and a far-right libertarian party

Sure you can. It's a big right wing tent.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

"Every movement that seeks to enslave a country, every dictatorship or potential dictatorship, needs some minority group as a scapegoat which it can blame for the nation's troubles and use as a justification of its own demand for dictatorial powers. In Soviet Russia, the scapegoat was the bourgeoisie; in Nazi Germany, it was the Jewish people; in America, it is the businessmen."

from Ayn Rand's "America's Persecuted Minority: Big Business."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I did write a paper on how great Ayn Rand was in high school because the Ayn Rand Institute was giving away a big scholarship award for the best essay on Ayn Rand. My insincerity must have shone through, because I didn't win.

but what if you had won?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

A friend and I used to sit around thinking of hilarious things we could do if we won that essay contest. Most of them involved humiliating ARI lackeys or taking Randroid ideas to the extreme in an acceptance speech.

mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Can i just say this thread is a laugh riot. I can't stop thinking of the meat-head randroid i went to school with, who had a rich daddy who bought him lots of toys. He yelled at me for borrowing his scooter and zooming around the classroom one time. He was like "that's my property you better respect it because you'll be living in a cave if you don't" or some shit like that.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

The rest of the chapter is rich with ribald humor

This writing is not in the style of the 3 with which I am familiar.

emilys. (emilys.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
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qwpoi (maga), Thursday, 9 March 2006 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
someone totally needs to do a starship troopers-style adaptation of "Atlas Shrugged".

-- latebloomer: You may order a puppet similar to this one (posercore24...), July 29th, 2005.

i think this still stands

latebloomer's jazz oddysey brought to you by kellog's corn flakes (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Maybe Angelina Jolie will fulfill latebloomer's fantasy.

milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

god i hope so

latebloomer, Friday, 7 September 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://mcsweeneys.net/2008/11/20tucker.html

ATLAS
SHRUGGED
UPDATED FOR
THE CURRENT
FINANCIAL
CRISIS.
BY JEREMIAH TUCKER

- - - -

1.

"Damn it, Dagny! I need the government to get out of the way and let me do my job!"

She sat across the desk from him. She appeared casual but confident, a slim body with rounded shoulders like an exquisitely engineered truss. How he hated his debased need for her, he who loathed self-sacrifice but would give up everything he valued to get in her pants ... Did she know?

"I heard the thugs in Washington were trying to take your Rearden metal at the point of a gun," she said. "Don't let them, Hank. With your advanced alloy and my high-tech railroad, we'll revitalize our country's failing infrastructure and make big, virtuous profits."

"Oh, no, I got out of that suckers' game. I now run my own hedge-fund firm, Rearden Capital Management."

"What?"

He stood and adjusted his suit jacket so that his body didn't betray his shameful weakness. He walked toward her and sat informally on the edge of her desk. "Why make a product when you can make dollars? Right this second, I'm earning millions in interest off money I don't even have."

He gestured to his floor-to-ceiling windows, a symbol of his productive ability and goodness.

"There's a whole world out there of byzantine financial products just waiting to be invented, Dagny. Let the leeches run my factories into the ground! I hope they do! I've taken out more insurance on a single Rearden Steel bond than the entire company is even worth! When my old company finally tanks, I'll make a cool $877 million."

Their eyes locked with an intensity she was only beginning to understand. Yes, Hank ... claim me ... If we're to win the battle against the leeches, we must get it on ... right now ... Don't let them torture us for our happiness ... or our billions.

He tore his eyes away.

"I can't. Sex is base and vile!"

"No, it's an expression of our highest values and our admiration for each other's minds."

"Your mind gives me the biggest boner, Dagny Taggart."

He fell upon her like a savage, wielding his mouth like a machete, and in the pleasure she took from him her body became an extension of her quarterly earnings report—proof of her worthiness as a lover. His hard-on was sanction enough.

"Scream your secret passions, Hank Rearden!"

"Derivatives!"

"Yes!"

"Credit-default swaps!"

"Oh, yes! Yes!"

"Collateralized debt obligation."

"YES! YES! YES!"

2.

Dagny and Hank searched through the ruins of the 21st Century Investment Bank. As they stepped through the crumbling cubicles, a trampled legal pad with a complex column of computations captured Dagny's attention. She fell to her hands and knees and raced through the pages and pages of complex math written in a steady hand. Her fingers bled from the paper cuts, and she did not care.

"What is it, Dagny?"

"Read this."

"Good God!"

"Yes, it's an experimental formula for a financial strategy that could convert static securities into kinetic profits that would increase at an almost exponential rate."

Hank studied the numbers. "The amount of debt you would need to make this work would be at least 30-to-1, but a daring, rational man who lives by his mind would be willing to take that risk!"

"Yes, and it's so complex the government could never regulate it."

"It's perfect. There's only one problem—half the pages are missing. Could you reconstruct it, Dagny?"

Her answer escaped her lips like air from a punctured galvanized-steel duct:

"No."

"I didn't think so, but why leave such an achievement to rot here? It's the greatest thing I've ever laid eyes on, made by a monumental genius, the sort of mind that's only born once in a century ... Dagny, why are you fondling your breasts?"

3.

There was still the breathless tone in her voice when she asked, "The financial strategy ... the financial strategy I found ... it was you who made it?"

"Yes," he said.

John Galt's face betrayed no signs of pain or fear or guilt, and his body had the clean tensile strength of a foundry casting with skin the color of a polished full-port brass valve. In the center of this secret mountain valley where the titans of Wall Street had retreated for an extended junket was a 3-foot-tall dollar sign of pure gold atop a granite column. It was tacky, yes, but it was also their emblem, a symbol of their triumph.

"But why did you leave it behind?"

"Because once I committed the plan to memory I no longer needed it."

"I don't understand."

"The capital-gains tax, Dagny," Galt said. "We loathe it."

He pointed to the houses of men she knew, and the names sounded like the richest stock market in the world—a roll call of honor.

"Our money represents our spirit's values," Galt said. "When the government takes our profits, it is literally robbing us of our souls. I will not apologize for my wealth to a nation of looters. We who live by the mind could've been engineers, scientists, doctors, extreme-sports enthusiasts, but there is no purer pursuit than the pursuit of money. A is A. Money begets more money, and ..."

Galt went on like this for what seemed to Dagny like hours, until, finally, something he said piqued her interest.

"And that's why I created the financial plan you found. It's true, it works. But it is not sustainable. It will ruin this country's financial system, and then we'll see how those who despise us prosper when their lenders and investors refuse to invest or lend." He laughed joylessly. "Funny, isn't it? I must destroy the very thing I love in order to save it."

"Just to avoid paying taxes?"

"I do not compromise my beliefs, and I will kill anyone who asks me to!"

A silence fell between them, and it was awkward.

Finally, Dagny asked, "So, just out of curiosity, how much are you worth?"

He shrugged. "What is infinity?"

She let out a rich, powerful moan, like the sound of a passing diesel train in the night.

Q: Why was the mushroom so popular? A: He was a fungi (latebloomer), Friday, 5 December 2008 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

does a latebloomer read mcsweeneys?

Ron Polarik, PhD (and what), Friday, 5 December 2008 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

no, i just saw that linked somewhere

Q: Why was the mushroom so popular? A: He was a fungi (latebloomer), Saturday, 6 December 2008 04:57 (seventeen years ago)

The terrible writing and terrible philosophy are somewhat of a piece with one another. It's often noted how her philosophy was very much an exaggerated reaction against Communist thought; I wonder sometimes whether her writing style was in any way an exaggerated reaction against Russia's tradition of producing decent literature.

-- nabisco (--...), October 22nd, 2004.

lol

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:01 (seventeen years ago)

At an Objectivist lecture in the 1960s, someone asked if such heroes as Rand portrayed could exist in the real world. Yes, she replied, there were two in the room at that moment: She indicated Nathaniel Branden and herself.

abanana, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:22 (seventeen years ago)

There is a special reason why you, the future leaders of the United States Army, need to be philosophically armed today. You are the target of a special attack by the Kantian-Hegelian-collectivist establishment that dominates our cultural institutions at present. You are the army of the last semi-free country left on earth, yet you are accused of being a tool of imperialism--and "imperialism" is the name given to the foreign policy of this country, which has never engaged in military conquest and has never profited from the two world wars, which she did not initiate, but entered and won. (It was, incidentally, a foolishly overgenerous policy, which made this country waste her wealth on helping both her allies and her former enemies.) Something called "the military-industrial complex"--which is a myth or worse--is being blamed for all of this country's troubles. Bloody college hoodlums scream demands that R.O.T.C. units be banned from college campuses. Our defense budget is being attacked, denounced and undercut by people who claim that financial priority should be given to ecological rose gardens and to classes in esthetic self-expression for the residents of the slums.

this is fucking incredible

BIG HOOS'S poncho steencation (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:54 (seventeen years ago)

http://gos.sbc.edu/r/rand.html

BIG HOOS'S poncho steencation (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:54 (seventeen years ago)

The motive of the destroyers is not love for communism, but hatred for America. Why hatred? Because America is the living refutation of a Kantian universe.

BIG HOOS'S poncho steencation (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

YESSSS

TOMBOT, Saturday, 6 December 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

a living refutation of a Kantian universe is totally a place I'd like to raise some kids

TOMBOT, Saturday, 6 December 2008 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

guess it's obvious who this chick Kant stand

Q: Why was the mushroom so popular? A: He was a fungi (latebloomer), Monday, 8 December 2008 06:01 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

(It was, incidentally, a foolishly overgenerous policy, which made this country waste her wealth on helping both her allies and her former enemies.)

lol @ Ayn Rand shitting on the Marshall Plan ... which was about as rationally self-interested as any US government spending program ever.

இயன் ஸ்காட் பனிப்பாறை கழிவடை அவரது தாயார் ஃபக் பிடிக்கும். (Eisbaer), Sunday, 27 January 2013 01:36 (twelve years ago)

vs yr irrationally bolded display name

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 January 2013 01:39 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

Libertarian ‘Utopia’ Styled After Ayn Rand Book Spectacularly Falls Apart Almost Immediately

panic disorder pixie (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:46 (eleven years ago)

Chile must love being ground zero for every experiment in delusional American economics.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:14 (eleven years ago)

I loved this quote:

Jeff Berwick, who happens to run The Dollar Vigilante website, has called Johnson [founder of the community] a sociopath and a fraud.

Hmmmm. Sociopath and a fraud, eh. What connection could those traits possibly have with an ideal libertarian society?

Aimless, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:22 (eleven years ago)

whole thing is lol

I think I saw this linked somewhere else too but can't remember where

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:22 (eleven years ago)

yeah i saw that a while back and was p well boggled

why would you need some white american libertarian intermediary, and why would that even be good, by your own standards? if you want to live in a chilean subdivision, go buy a house in one.

goole, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:24 (eleven years ago)

four years pass...

Funniest thing I learned all day: Ayn Rand received federal arts subsidies for her play under FDR’s New Deal Federal Theatre Project. Absolutely fantastic. pic.twitter.com/Te7aLRTRYD

— David Slavick (@davidslavick) August 27, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 17:30 (six years ago)


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