Oh look, another list to argue about: IGN's latest "Top 100 Video Games EVAH"

-fucked
-compiled by drooling Halo-addicted mouthbreathing fratboys
-etc.

tho it does have Baldur's Gate 2 at #25, but Grim Fandango allaway down to #49.

Good to see Freedom Force in there tho :) Two friends of mine worked on that at Irrational.

Honestly, that list, while not reflecting my own particular interests in a canon I can stand behind. Even many of the older 8 bit games on that list are gems.

But I think I would swap Mario 3 into first place.

xpost, Trayce, yeah, I think they should have squeezed them in there instead of fucking Deus Ex or shit like that.

Who was it around here that said that The Sims is less a game than an art project? Because that person was OTM.

I'd probably switch SMB with SM64 though.

And no Manic Miner!

mario 64 should be top, rather than SMB.

no rez, no paradroid, no turrican, no tempest or wipeout of any kind, boooo! also: too many RPGs.

xp: super metroid is absolutely THE BEST snes game!

Also, Super Metroid was amazing. Best platform game ever.

OTM. Mario 1 has nostalgia value, but 3 has way better levels, better powerups, better play control, an item inventory, and tons of secrets (warp whistles, 45 degree angle stars, anchors, tanuki suits, P-Wings, white mushroom houses, etc.) I can't really conceive of how 1 could be better except simply by merit of being the progenitor.

Present and defend your list!

System Shock 2 is much the same way, due to the superb way they integrated narrative into the game, along with some horror elements.

both are really, really worth your time.

The problem is your lack of commitment to Mario 3! That game can be beaten in a solid day, even sans warp whistles.

This dude can finish it in 11 minutes.

Still, älänbänänä, you should try deus ex.

yes, it's in the first-person, but the action doesn't require the intense quick-twitch responsiveness that your standard FPS like quake or counterstrike does.

BIONIC COMMANDO

NO save function, so you're playing that shit straight thru, son, 'till you kill that hitler.

This is a pretty solid list, aside from the mystifying inclusion of Wave Race 64 and Advance Wars. y'know, the lack of a save option was pretty much why I hated platformers when i was a kid. "lives" my ass.

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3116290

That is a really good point though, dude. I might throw the C64 version of the Lords of Midnight on there.

LauraH OTM x 1000. And FFX is at #86.

FF3 > FF7 > FF2 > FF fucking X.

I much prefer Game Informer's Top 100 from a few years ago.

Also, the only Final Fantasy game I liked was the first one. I missed the days when an RPG was walking around for hours trying to gain experience points.

A: A great, great deal.

Contra, (Super) Metroid, Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden 1 & 2, Golden Axe, and almost all Mario games on NES and SNES say you are wrong!

FF3 is crap. The last half of the game ruins it for me by turning it into "HOW MANY SECRETS CAN U FIND"

Dude, the secrets gave it incredible replayability, and unless you played through the first time with a strategy guide how did you even know about the ones you didn't find? It's fairly common for games to offer varying levels of completion as an incentive to play again, and if you enjoyed the game, it was a pleasure to have a reason to start all over again. If you didn't enjoy it, do you really care if you got the Atma Weapon or not?

FFIII was worth going through more than one time, if not to find all the extras, then simply because the storytelling, characterization, and game design are TOP NOTCH.

I wish I were playing it right now.

Is Actraiser and Kid Icarus on there? Can't remember. If not they should be!

Played:
# 097 // F-Zero
# 094 // Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
# 093 // Quake II
# 086 // Final Fantasy X
# 080 // Baseball Stars
# 079 // Shining Force II
# 078 // Star Wars (Lame Choice)
# 077 // Archon: The Light and The Dark (Lame Choice)
# 072 // Galaga
# 070 // Pokemon Red/Blue
# 065 // MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat
# 063 // Sonic the Hedgehog
# 058 // Super Smash Bros. Melee
# 052 // Metroid Prime
# 051 // Grand Theft Auto III
# 049 // Grim Fandango (I remember being separated from the computer where I was playing this for about two weeks and my friends beat it and moved on to a new game. Broke my heart.)
# 042 // Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
# 040 // Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution
# 038 // Madden NFL 2004
# 034 // Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
# 032 // Resident Evil 4 (well, not yet... but it's in my room!)
# 031 // SimCity 2000
# 029 // GoldenEye 007
# 025 // Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (Wish I hadn't got distracted and quit playing...)
# 024 // Tecmo Super Bowl
# 022 // Half-Life (never really got into it.)
# 021 // Deus Ex (close to beat and distracted)
# 020 // Ms. Pac Man
# 018 // ICO (so wanted to love it and just didn't.)
# 012 // X-COM: UFO Defense
# 009 // Star Wars: TIE Fighter Collector's CD-ROM
# 003 // Tetris

Beat:
# 100 // River City Ransom
# 098 // BattleToads
# 092 // Dragon Warrior
# 088 // Final Fantasy VII
# 083 // Contra
# 074 // Syndicate
# 061 // Sam & Max Hit the Road (But I can't remember how it ends!)
# 060 // Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle
# 059 // Bionic Commando (I _Think_... can't remember)
# 057 // Mike Tyson's Punchout!
# 056 // Final Fantasy III (VI)
# 050 // Wing Comander II: Vengeance of the Kilrathi (Close to my alltime favorite. I used to dream about this game. Then there was the movie. No more dreams.)
# 048 // The Secret of Mana
# 046 // Super Mario World
# 039 // DOOM
# 033 // God of War
# 026 // Final Fantasy II (IV)
# 023 // Super Mario Bros. 3
# 019 // Metal Gear Solid
# 016 // Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (Upside Down Castle!)
# 011 // Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
# 010 // Super Metroid
# 008 // Street Fighter II
# 007 // StarCraft
# 001 // Super Mario Bros.

Where is KOTOR?

Eh, I was kind of refering the Mario style platformer.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/144/1275/320/mario_batali_molto_e.jpg

pasta!!!!!

FFX (or maybe X-2) is the greatest of all FFs as well. Last month I played FF3 and FF7 to completion for the first time ever, and they both blew pretty hard.

why does no one ever admit how unfun the first Half-Life was? Deus Ex ftw!!!!

Xpost: Yeah, as noted, I didn't care much for Half Life either.

EXCITEBIKE!!!!!!

Track editor was a KEY ELEMENT.

I ate at Otto's just the other night; great meal.

and FF3 > FF2 > FFtactics > FF7 SUX.

Played:
# 099 // Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss
# 098 // BattleToads
# 097 // F-Zero
# 093 // Quake II
# 092 // Dragon Warrior
# 088 // Final Fantasy VII
# 086 // Final Fantasy X
# 085 // Prince of Persia
# 083 // Contra
# 072 // Galaga
# 071 // Half-Life: Counter-Strike
# 068 // Starsiege: Tribes
# 065 // MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat
# 063 // Sonic the Hedgehog
# 061 // Sam & Max Hit the Road
# 060 // Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle
# 057 // Mike Tyson's Punchout!
# 056 // Final Fantasy III (VI)
# 052 // Metroid Prime
# 051 // Grand Theft Auto III
# 049 // Grim Fandango
# 048 // The Secret of Mana
# 046 // Super Mario World
# 039 // DOOM
# 036 // Command & Conquer: Red Alert
# 031 // SimCity 2000
# 029 // GoldenEye 007
# 026 // Final Fantasy II (IV)
# 023 // Super Mario Bros. 3
# 022 // Half-Life
# 020 // Ms. Pac Man
# 019 // Metal Gear Solid
# 015 // Super Mario Kart
# 013 // Chrono Trigger
# 011 // Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
# 010 // Super Metroid
# 009 // Star Wars: TIE Fighter Collector's CD-ROM
# 008 // Street Fighter II
# 007 // StarCraft
# 005 // Super Mario 64
# 004 // Sid Meier's Civilization II
# 003 // Tetris
# 002 // Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
# 001 // Super Mario Bros.

Beat:
# 097 // F-Zero
# 088 // Final Fantasy VII
# 086 // Final Fantasy X
# 083 // Contra
# 063 // Sonic the Hedgehog
# 061 // Sam & Max Hit the Road
# 060 // Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle
# 057 // Mike Tyson's Punchout!
# 056 // Final Fantasy III (VI)
# 049 // Grim Fandango
# 048 // The Secret of Mana
# 046 // Super Mario World
# 039 // DOOM
# 026 // Final Fantasy II (IV)
# 023 // Super Mario Bros. 3
# 015 // Super Mario Kart
# 013 // Chrono Trigger
# 011 // Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
# 010 // Super Metroid
# 008 // Street Fighter II
# 007 // StarCraft
# 002 // Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
# 001 // Super Mario Bros.

Also, WHITHER LEMMINGS and WORMS!?

# 069 // Lakers vs. Celtics and the NBA Playoffs
Lakers vs. Celtics and the NBA Playoffs
Name: Lakers vs. Celtics and the NBA Playoffs
Platform: Sega Genesis
Developer: EA Sports
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Year Released: 1990
Why it Made the Top 100 List: This is the game that introduced gamers to Clyde "The Glide," Michael Jordan's baseline reverse, Sir Charles' gorilla slam, and of course, Tom Chambers dunking from the three-point line. This was the first 5-on-5 basketball game where you could actually tell the difference between the players on the court, not only by the graphics (and short shorts), but by the special moves that changed the way we played videogame hoops. And while there were only eight selectable teams and modes were limited to Exhibition and Playoffs, Lakers vs. Celtics' gameplay continues to live on in our minds, as we can still picture Barkley taking off from the free throw line and throwing it down with two hands.

HAHAHA Summer 1989! my parents got my Ultima V as a follow-up for this, which let me down the long, lonely road of PC RPGs forever.

Ultima VII/VII.5 were great, but i don't think i ever beat them.

every adventure game is to be "beaten"/"finished".

hell, any game with a narrative can be completed at some point, unless its like Fallout 2 or GTA:SA where you can just keep on playing after you beat the main storyline.

and Beat (27):
# 097 // F-Zero
# 088 // Final Fantasy VII
# 077 // Archon: The Light and The Dark
# 076 // Tetris Attack
# 063 // Sonic the Hedgehog
# 061 // Sam & Max Hit the Road
# 060 // Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle
# 056 // Final Fantasy III (VI)
# 055 // Fallout
# 049 // Grim Fandango
# 048 // The Secret of Mana
# 046 // Super Mario World
# 044 // Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
# 037 // Wave Race 64
# 026 // Final Fantasy II (IV)
# 023 // Super Mario Bros. 3
# 019 // Metal Gear Solid
# 016 // Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
# 015 // Super Mario Kart
# 013 // Chrono Trigger
# 011 // Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
# 010 // Super Metroid
# 008 // Street Fighter II
# 005 // Super Mario 64
# 004 // Sid Meier's Civilization II (beaten on King)
# 002 // Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
# 001 // Super Mario Bros.

I never loved any of those games as much as I loved Lakers vs. Celtics. I'm with the list on this one. (Although I'd vote for Double Dribble over it!)

I like the list. Lots of stuff missing... lots of overrated titles... but none of the games on the list that I've played are meritless.

I liked that they did include Syndicate and Red Alert.

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