London Boroughs and which one is good to live in?

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I'm moving to London in 4 - 6 weeks, and spent the weekend looking at places in Tuffnell Park, Crouch End, Turnpike Lane and Stoke Newington.

Crouch End was the best. Where else is worth looking at?

I need a 2 bedroom place paying £800 p/m max (i.e £400 p/m for each room - exclusive of bill). Good tube/buses. Nice neighbourhoods w/ nice restaurants and parks.

― Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Monday, 1 August 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

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― Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Monday, 1 August 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

i'm moving into a 2 bed place in a week in hackney got it for less than £800pcm. it's a really nice flat too and east london is good.

― stelf)xxxx, Monday, 1 August 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

crouch end (and hackney) not good for tube, if you like tube.

― N_RQ, Monday, 1 August 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

Crouch End is the spiritual home of ILX if that helps.

When you say London Boroughs, do you mean administrative areas? Crouch End is (mainly) in Harringey, as is Turnpike Lane. Tufnell Park is in Islington (Yes? Though some bits might Camden border), and Stoke Newington is mainly Hackney (though Islington Border in places).

The key question I would say may well be transport. Crouch End is not on the tube, nor is Stoke Newington, but if you know where you are going then the right bus will be availible.

I live in Crocuh End, which should not sway you in the slightest.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Pete OTM, Crouch End is a nightmare transport-wise.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

stelfx i'm looking for exactly the same thing as you in pretty much the same area (would prefer Clapton tho) - any tips?

Nik, have you considered South London at all? I would if my place of work was more central, as much as North (or East or West).

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

Now now, nightmare is pushing it a touch. I like buses, and I live on a Crouch End bus route which makes my commute simplicity itself. And being bus pass boy is much cheaper than using the tube, so not really a problem.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

The London Borough of Lambeth is not recommended.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

TufPk is (alas) more Islington than Camden, the tube station is on the border. (Camden side tends to be called Kentish Town, Dartmouth Park, etc.) It's a decent area, but you're pretty much reliant on the tube if you want to be heading into the city, the buses are west-end centric. + it's hell getting to/back from East London.

― spontine (cis), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Steve's advice about choosing somewhere based on a tolerable commute, assuming you are to commute, is good. Sometimes this is a bit counter-intuitive, e.g. it's much easier and quicker for me to get from my home in Peckham Rye to Kensington (on the rare occasions I wish to go there) than it is for me to get to Wapping, though Wapping's much closer.

Pete's insistence that the absence of tube is not necessarily a disaster also makes sense. The overground railway tends to play a substantial, and substantially happy, part in the lives of many who live in South London.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

Tuffnell Park, Crouch End, Turnpike Lane and Stoke Newington.

i quite like all these places, for varying reasons

you say you need to be near tube though, which writes off crouchend and stokenewington. tufnell park may be a bit pricey? turnpike lane is quite rough and ready, and im not sure theres any nice parks there

what about finsbury park or archway? whitechapel might be good, but again, not sure about the parks. stratford?

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

where will you be working? might be the key question here.

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

I remember trying to explain the existence of South London to a New York friend of mine: "no no no just because you can't see it on the tube map, it's still there! lots of it! they just have buses and trains and stuff instead."

― spontine (cis), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

It never occurred to me that being near a park would be important to me, but now my flat overlooks a park and I absolutely love it.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

finsbury park area is a good call as it's generally cheaper than crouch end and much closer to the tube, although crouch end is far from a transport nightmare. about 10 mins on the w7 and you're at finsbury park station, that's all.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

My flat overlooks Streatham Common, with a panoramic view of Croydon and the beginnings of the North Downs just behind it. But it's Streatham, so looks aren't everything. You can get a bus anywhere from there, though, if you're not fussy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Walthamstow is worth considering if you don't mind being a little further out - good tube/train/bus links and decent enough places that are in your price range.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

streatham has a nice bowling alley with friendly staff

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

there were some interesting looking restaurants in bethnal green that i saw. and it has a tube, and you can get to the city quite easily.

don't know about prices though, and the neighbourhood isn't really that amazing. also bethnal green road for some reason smelled of poo at random intervals last night.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

archway and tufnell park are basically the same thing, only archway has better transport links to east london.

― N_RQ, Monday, 1 August 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

You'll be saying archway and highgate are the same thing next!

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

and here's me thinking that highgate was just the posh end of brent cross...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

it's all much of a muchness, whatever that means. but t-park and archway (and -- hey -- kentish town) are basically the same.

― N_RQ, Monday, 1 August 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

'highgate', except for the actual village bit, is a fiction.

― N_RQ, Monday, 1 August 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Mile End may actually be the nicest area between Whitechapel and Stratford. Between Mile End Road and Roman Road we stumbled upon some nice houses and pubs. Lots of old, charming buildings here and there, curious Mile End park split up into narrow segments by the Regents canal and seems okay.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

The overground railway tends to play a substantial, and substantially happy, part in the lives of many who live in South London.

Yup. I suggest Wandsworth, though you might have to argue your case against the edgy East Londoners and the head-in-the-sand North Londoners who pretend South London doesn't exist. Lowest council tax in Britain, too, if that's a help.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

Wandsworth is a good call, esp. by the Common. Clapham/Tooting/Balham don't seem bad either - just depends how far south you'd be willing to go.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

it's okay, mark, you can have wandsworth *and* no-one from up north will call you names (lest our mouths fill up with sand).

― N_RQ, Monday, 1 August 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

xpost: oi, we know south london exists, we just don't like to talk about it in polite company.

That's bobbins, N_RQ! Parts of Tufnell Park might as well be Kentish Town, I'll grant that, but not Archway. As for Highgate... well, the tube station isn't in Highgate, it's somewhere else entirely, but just because it's about five places loosely linked together doesn't make it a fiction.

Thinking of down Finsbury Park way, I'm still pretty fond of Manor House & the Seven Sisters road in general; the greengrocers' (argh where apostrophe? greengrocer's'?) etc are really, really good.

― spontine (cis), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

i dunno where or why you'd draw a line between archway and t-park. it's all just houses and roads, at the end of the day.

― N_RQ, Monday, 1 August 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

These are my personal choices, looking for a 2 bed flat:

Clapton (Upper, Common)
Stamford Hill
Hackney (Downs, London Fields, NOT Homerton or Wick)
Kentish Town
Archway/Upper Holloway
Highbury (parallel west of Newington Green)
Dalston (parallel east of Newington Green)

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

steve - mail me at dav£st£lf0x at yahoo dot co dot uk - i'm moving to clapton, near the lea valley nature reserve and have good tips for you. also might perhaps be thinking of taking in a flatmate - maybe... anyone know good ways of doing this?

― stelf)xxxx, Monday, 1 August 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

moveflat.com

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

London Borough of Ealing is the best. Though, I doubt very much if you'd get a two bedroom place for £800 per month, unless you wanted to live somewhere like Northolt. You would have an RAF base nearby though, if you like spotting planes.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Lived in Tooting for 2 yrs now, really like it - great food, bustling, affordable, good transport, near the edge of London for getting away from it, pretty friendly, pubs mostly awful but I can go elsewhere for that.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

there's this place in tooting that has a 350" screen for showing sports

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

but it's only half a foot wide.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Stevem, there are some good ones on Moveflat.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

They're almost all shares though, and the ones that aren't are too pricey or not available at the right time.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Anyone know anything about council tax? Say, if you were renting a 2 bed flat for around £1000 per month, how do they calculate council tax? My future plans could hinge on this.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

depends how big the property is doesnt it? floorspace wise. a 2 bedroom flat could vary greatly in how much floorspace there is.

is it just a british thing to talk about places to live purely in terms of bedrooms and not to have any idea of m2 or anything? like in europe/america it seems standard to talk about flast and stuff in terms of how big they are actually. i got laughed at in spain when i said that i had no idea how big my flat was actually, and couldnt even hazrad a guess.

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Westminster has the cheapest council tax, if that makes a difference to you. My sister live Maida Vale/Kensal Green/Queens Park way and is quite nice. (interesting fact, you need 7 pieces of ID to get a parking permit in westminster, also the blood of 7 virgins)

― Ed (dali), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

None of the estate agents I dealt with when I ended up buying my current flat had any idea when I tried to talk about square-footage.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

how can someone even have 7 pieces of id?

many xposts: I'll hopefully be working in Chancery Lane;

2 of my friends live within walking distance of each other in Stoke Newington, so I'm tempted to move there; buses seem to get you Liverpool St in 25min so would work.

Turnpike Lane - I wasnt too impressed with - even if the Cyprus Potato Marketing Board and a cool Polish food shop are locate there

Crouch End doesnt seem too much of hassle transport wise - got bus to Turnpike Lane which took 7 mins.

I basically looking at areas whose names I like the sound off (or have heard on St Etienne songs) - Maida Vale is one to look at the next time;

Previously lived really central and dont foresee any benefit in it given the rate/room size axis in prev places in Bayswater, nr. Baker St and Gt. Portland St.

No one I personally know has recommended South London; although Dulwich seemed okay. Other than that I only know Kingston which is too far.

― Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Tuffers has the huge advantage of being five minutes walk from the greatest urban park in the world (probably), Hampstead Heath.

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

though do not dare to picnic in hampstead heath for said picnic is likely to be snatched brutally by a HORRIBLE DOG with a THICKO OWNER

when we were driving back from the funeral it was the first time i'd ever travelled into london from the east and it was like a Bizarro version of the much more familiar (to me) western approach. Going through Newbury Park, Gants Hill etc. was EXACTLY like coming in via Greenford and Perivale - almost symmetrical in structure. Didn't exactly capture my imagination, though, and mark s expressed astonishment that anyone would want to undertake such a dull & massive commute every day.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 06:55 (twenty years ago)

the east -- beyond the fashionable east, beyond the grimey east -- is fkn HUGEness.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

London council tax seems really cheap to me - my band B bill is about the same as the average London band D bill. You should of seen the look of horror on my friends faces when i told them how much i paid (even with the 25% discount). I suppose my mortgage payment is a 1/4 of what they pay per month in rent so it all balances out.

― leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

(Henry xpost)

I noticed that when we drove out of London. With the Newham docks, Tilbury etc. close at hand, and the day's general greyness, it literally did look like the ends of the earth, a terminal terminus - you can understand why Iain Sinclair's into it so much, with the Procter & Gamble factory, Carfax Abbey and so on.

The really weird thing was how so much of east London (i.e. Commercial Road/East India Dock Road/A13) looked like the Lanarkshire I knew from 30 years ago; blocks of flats in the same strange colour schemes (lime green and salmon pink?), chintzy, down-at-heel shopping malls in Poplar (Kenny's Pop-In sounds exactly like the kind of shop you would have got in Bellshill or Craigneuk), the imposing but boarded up Limehouse Public Library, the gigantic art deco Seaman's Mission. Whereas if you come in from the A40/west London end (as I did for the best part of 20 years) the first thing that instinctively comes to mind is: Richard Briers. Different world altogether, if a strangely parallel one.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

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i've moved and am now neighbours with mikey, although we don't know what each other looks like. steve how's the househunting going?

― stelf)xxxx, Thursday, 11 August 2005 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

We're taking the Clapton Pond place! It's a first floor flat (Victorian conversion I think but might be a little more recent than that), two big bedrooms, decent sized living room, kitchen and bathroom with an L shaped landing linking them all, for under 800pcm. Holding deposit should go through today. can't move in until early October though. Actually I need to mail you again Dave to check something...

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 11 August 2005 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm often to be found sitting on the bench in the communal garden, drinking wine. But which block are you in? There are two communal gardens. We back onto the smaller one.

Good work, Steve and Stelfxxxx. I shall have to aquaint you with the Eclipse. Best pub for miles around. Big jukebox full of 60's soul. Sofas, candles, nice atmosphere. Not the normal Clapton boozer.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 11 August 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

I like the Eclipse! I had my birthday party there. It is a very nice pub indeed.

(Funny, cause I'm from South London, but had my birthday party in Hackney. My friend, who lives in Hackney, is having her birthday party in Tulse Hill. Go figure.)

― Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Thursday, 11 August 2005 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray Sociah. Sounds nice.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 11 August 2005 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

Just out of interest, how is 'Sociah' pronounced, you big ponce?

― Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 11 August 2005 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's Sociah T as in 'society'.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

I am embarrased that I'm just getting the joke now, I assumed the surname was some street version of asshole.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

go ahead and mail me steve, i'm at work so will get it in a minute

― stelf)xxxx, Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

i think that Tannenbaum Schmidt should live somewhere on the 341 bus route. it's fairly reliable, runs all night, and will take him straight to work. newington green is probably a bit expensive, so i say live near manor house (there's lots of nice houses just south of the east corner of finsbury park), and that way you'll have bus, and tube when you want it, and only a 5 minute walk to finsbury park tube and shops and ROWANS.
and there'll be a bigass homebase just north of there open by the time you move, for all your moving-in necessities.

-- colette (a2lett...) (webmail), August 5th, 2005 11:25 AM. (a2lette) (later)

Thanks! I'm sure I went based that big Homebase when I last went to London. I'm down there again for a party in Stoke New'ton so will have a wander around.

As long as I can bike to my friends' in Stoke in less than 20 min, I'll be happy.

― Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure I went based that big Homebase.....

I meant, I'm sure I went past that big Homebase...

― Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

Oh yes... revive. I have to move. Should I stay in Streatham, or move to Herne Hill or even Crystal Palace?

Or maybe even ::gasp:: fuck off entirely and move to Kent?

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Move into Wandsworth borough. It's Tory-run and the services are ropey at best, but the council tax is half what it is in Merton and Lambeth.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

I do, however, have to keep within a borough in the cachement area for my treatment centre. I have discovered it's multi-borough and I know that Lambeth and Croydon and Southward are covered, but not sure about Wandsworth. Anyway, I'd rather go East than West.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Go west. Life is peaceful there. As long as you don't mind the odd homophobic murder.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't wish living in the Home Counties on anyone.

― chap who would dare to violate the least amount of laws of physics (chap), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Barnet

― Munki (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

I was born in a Home County. I wish to die in one. I think I will make it my goal to move to a pretty little village in Kent by the time I'm 40. But it probably won't happen this year.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

By which time there will be no pretty little villages left in the Kent Megatropolis.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

This makes me actually want to join the Countryside Alliance. But that's another story...

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

chiswick, any good?

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

beautiful but expensive and rather 'bourgeois' i suppose.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

If I were made of money, I'd live in Wandsworth, actually. But I'm only half made of money.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

I live in the Home Counties! It's nice here! And we're not all fox-hunting inbred toffs.

― Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

But I'm only half made of money

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oxford is NOT a Home County. I know it might as well be, but it is NOT.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Just dropping in on this thread to let you all know that Harrow is shit, especially without so much as a bicycle. I don't really know what they were thinking having two malls right next to each other that have all of the same shops!! I would also bitch about the dreadful Northwick Park Hospital but it's actually in Brent so...

― tosser, Monday, 17 October 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I was born in Northwick Park Hospital

― Munki (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

and I went to school in Harrow

― Munki (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

what do I win?

― Munki (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

The opportunity to have left that particular hospital alive, I'd suppose

(full disclosure: that rotting carcass of a building was all I saw out my bedroom window except for the new Wembley arch)

― tosser, Monday, 17 October 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

oh hello. do you like canons park?

― Munki (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

do you know fitness first in kingsbury? that used to be my gym.

do you remember that horrific murder in roe green park?

― Munki (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

There is something interesting in Kingsbury, believe it or not, but i've forgotten what it is now.

Northwick Park hospital remains the worst building I have ever seen in my life.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

SHIT... I have to move.

I'm living in Archway, but was considering a place up around Finsbury Park. I've been to the music quiz at the Dairy on Stroud Green Rd, and that whole area doesn't seem too bad, but I don't know the area around the station itself.

Or maybe just Archway again. People seem to write off Archway, but you can get a real decent sized place for cheap.

― Mestema (davidcorp), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Stroud Green is nice, and fine when you get down near the station too. Crouch End, Crouch End/Crouch Hill if yo like the area. But if you don't mind Archway, I'd stay there, good value like you say.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

move to woolwich

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

crayzeh!

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

move to woolwich

Ah, the ferry and the foot tunnel and...old ships! W(h)oot!

But SE18 is fairly grim besides...

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 13 February 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

archway, i think i...love thee

― terry lennox. (gareth), Monday, 13 February 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah Stroud End Green's fine, I've got quite a few friends living round there. I'd probably favour Archway though, cos it's closer to a) town and b) Hampstead Heath.

― chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Monday, 13 February 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

close to the meat.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 13 February 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Is Crouch End still crap for transport links?

― Lil' Eno (nordicskilla), Monday, 13 February 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

I *almost* movd there, back in...2001

― Lil' Eno (nordicskilla), Monday, 13 February 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Anybody looking to sublet their flat (or just a room) for the month of August? Thought I'd ask here before hitting Gumtree etc.

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

ullo john got a new motor is there like in peckham?

― 600, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

by which i mean is there life in peckham?

― 600, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

there is life a couple of miles further out, in lewisham. my life, in fact. not really any nightlife to speak of, though.

― unfished business, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

You could dance in the shopping centre and call it art!

― Masonic Boom, Monday, 26 March 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm working in Brent at the moment. Don't live in Brent.

― chap, Monday, 26 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

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